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  • Originally posted by Pukhtoon View Post
    I see - a few points. The Baloch 100% do speak other languages - I don't know which part of Balochistan your refering to, but every single Baloch I have met speaks Farsi or Pashto. As to Pashto, even very rural Baloch, even many of the women know Pashto. This is in Afghanistan and Iran. As to Pakistan, I assume as much given the fact that so many live in Quetta but could be wrong. Similarly, most of the Baloch in Dubai, Kuwait, Oman, etc. speak Arabic and many, many, many Baloch only speak Arabic as a first language and are mixed or simply have become absorbed into the country and its people.

    Also, as to the secularist/religious thing, I don't think that argument holds water because many other groups have acted similarly incorporating religion and fighting other Muslims with various justifications.

    As to the mixing of Baloch and non-Baloch, Pashtoon and non-Pashtoon, yes we are patriarchal and therefore whatever your father is your mother is as well. But when push comes to shove, depending on what your mixed with, there might be things said about it questioning you.

    Also, with respect to the Baloch that I know, they do discriminate amongst one another. I've heard comments from those on the Afghan side who feel their more tribal their Baloch customs untouched and tougher then the ones in Pakistan or Iran. I've heard others from the Iran side laud their superiority in terms of education (religious and secular), established businesses, etc. and look down on the more tribal Baloch similar to what many Pakistani Pukhtoons say considering the Afghan side more tribal and therefore backwards.

    Just food for thought and my experiences. Any similar Baloch Forum online somewhere - curious to hear a larger range of opinions?
    Oh I thought you were referring to the "Paki" occupied Balochistan. Yeah the baloch do speak other languages but mainly because it's the country's official language. And regarding "mixing" and absorption. They hardly ever mix dude. First of all if you were living in a minority you will always marry your own ethnic group because you will not want your ethnic group to dissappear. It's in their culture. I'm sure if you live in places like Pakistan, you have to know Urdu, it's because it's the country's official language. Same goes for Afghanistan or Iran or other places like Oman/Dubai.

    yes we are patriarchal and therefore whatever your father is your mother is as well.
    Really? So what if a pashtun marries a black person she would become pashtun too? I don't agree with this formula.

    Also, with respect to the Baloch that I know, they do discriminate amongst one another.
    Agreed, they fight together all the time. Fights go brutal with gunfights.

    I agree with your points about Afghan baloch and Iranian baloch. And there aren't any popular baloch forums or online website regarding a baloch community because baloch are not in a large quantity and are not that famous. Their population is small and they are only famous for their freedom against nations like Iran, Pakistan.
    Last edited by M17ArnoBaloch; 07-05-2013, 12:29 PM.
    جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
    G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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    • Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
      Mate i think the person u r talking to here is not even a baloch(i suspect) ..i dont know where he got his all so called true facts..everything i read is false. if he is a true baloch he shud be sitting somewhere under his sardar not using internet.
      i dont see any difference between him and extremists(talibs) who both have been shown dreams of jannah and azad balochistan
      i dont see any difference between him and extremists(talibs) who both have been shown dreams of jannah and azad balochistan
      ur paki. this statement shows it.

      and

      OH MY GOD.

      LOL.

      You're one brainwashed twit.

      And what so called true facts? Tell me, ill clarify it for you, i've lived in a baloch family and i've lived in Quetta all my life. What true facts, what do you know, you paki. Tell me i'll clarify it for you. everthing you read is false? OH MY GOD DUDE. What everthing ? Show me. You're a random panjabi paki dude or a pashtun who has betrayed afghanistan and will talk ill of whoever talks against pakistan. And ****** listen, I know that there are many baloch who listen to their sardar. However there are mases of Baloch youth arising which are spitting on their faces because they consume most of our rescources and keep us blind. There are tons of website, However, i can't seem to remember which are against sardar rule or tribal headchiefs. you're not trolling anyone. You'r a paki who doesnt want porkistan break. You are either a panjabi or a traitor pashtun.
      جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
      G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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      • Originally posted by M17ArnoBaloch View Post
        ur paki. this statement shows it.

        and

        OH MY GOD.

        LOL.

        You're one brainwashed twit.

        And what so called true facts? Tell me, ill clarify it for you, i've lived in a baloch family and i've lived in Quetta all my life. What true facts, what do you know, you paki. Tell me i'll clarify it for you. everthing you read is false? OH MY GOD DUDE. What everthing ? Show me. You're a random panjabi paki dude or a pashtun who has betrayed afghanistan and will talk ill of whoever talks against pakistan. And ****** listen, I know that there are many baloch who listen to their sardar. However there are mases of Baloch youth arising which are spitting on their faces because they consume most of our rescources and keep us blind. There are tons of website, However, i can't seem to remember which are against sardar rule or tribal headchiefs. you're not trolling anyone. You'r a paki who doesnt want porkistan break. You are either a panjabi or a traitor pashtun.
        i am a punjabi, pakhtun, kashmiri and everybody who is in pakistan but truth is u r nt baloch .. u r an indian trying to pose himself as baloch..good try mate ..keep trying.. any wise person who reads ur msgs is goin to guess it pretty easily.. anyways there are alot of ur kinds on youtube..
        and about the lies yes go on read ur posts and put them on google u will find self made facts after every two words. i dont wana argue with kids like u.

        do whatever u like mate ..i can just wish u good luck with ur desperate mission

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        • Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
          if he is a true baloch he shud be sitting somewhere under his sardar not using internet.
          I think you've exposed the obvious Punjabi ideology of keeping the proud Baluch backwards. So for him to be a true Baluch, he should not use internet? Let me guess, for a Pashtun to be a true Pashtun, he should consistently wage Jihad and remain backwards? For a Punjabi to be a true Punjabi, he should consistently rob Baluchistan and get more wealthy? Aside from exposing the obvious ideology, you are making a bozo out of yourself.
          Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

          A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

          For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


          The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

          -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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          • Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
            i am a punjabi, pakhtun, kashmiri and everybody who is in pakistan but truth is u r nt baloch .. u r an indian trying to pose himself as baloch..good try mate ..keep trying.. any wise person who reads ur msgs is goin to guess it pretty easily.. anyways there are alot of ur kinds on youtube..
            and about the lies yes go on read ur posts and put them on google u will find self made facts after every two words. i dont wana argue with kids like u.

            do whatever u like mate ..i can just wish u good luck with ur desperate mission
            Oh my god, now im an Indian trying to be "baloch". JOKE OF THE DAY.

            LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

            i am a punjabi
            yes you are. ofcourse.

            WOW. ladies an gentlemen. I am an Indian now. LMFAO.

            One word for you: Troll.

            A Sentence for you: "A troll who can't argue intellectually"

            good try mate ..keep trying.. any wise person who reads ur msgs is goin to guess it pretty easily..
            What good try ????????

            what are you saying ??

            I didn't do anything.

            Go worship your porkistan you cow. Pakis are the most ridiculous people on earth who kill Baloch and Pashtun alike. You guys have Hindu culture in you. Almost every paki has hindu culture in them. You are guys were Hindus long ago. Pakis are originally Indians. They are indic groups. Panjabis were Indians before migration. You guys are ethnically Indians and classify as "Indic groups" and Dravidians. You guys have hindu culture in you and you still practice it. Your women dance on Indian songs on weddings and they have several hindu culture in them like for example the bride wears "redish" type of clothes, You guys play indian songs. You guys practices indian/hindu traditions like mehendi which is not an Islamic but a Hindu/Indian culture. You guys are filled with Hindu things and you still call yourself Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

            You porkistani are indians.
            جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
            G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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            • Originally posted by M17ArnoBaloch View Post
              Oh I thought you were referring to the "Paki" occupied Balochistan. Yeah the baloch do speak other languages but mainly because it's the country's official language. And regarding "mixing" and absorption. They hardly ever mix dude. First of all if you were living in a minority you will always marry your own ethnic group because you will not want your ethnic group to dissappear. It's in their culture. I'm sure if you live in places like Pakistan, you have to know Urdu, it's because it's the country's official language. Same goes for Afghanistan or Iran or other places like Oman/Dubai.



              Really? So what if a pashtun marries a black person she would become pashtun too? I don't agree with this formula.



              Agreed, they fight together all the time. Fights go brutal with gunfights.

              I agree with your points about Afghan baloch and Iranian baloch. And there aren't any popular baloch forums or online website regarding a baloch community because baloch are not in a large quantity and are not that famous. Their population is small and they are only famous for their freedom against nations like Iran, Pakistan.
              I see well likely last comment on the subject but just a few comments. It has been my experience that Pakistani Baloch also speak other languages generally - Pashto and Urdu primarily. Its just illogical to think the Baloch live in cities where languages other then Balochi are spoken and they completely don't speak with those people.

              They intermix with other ethnic groups about as much as Pashtoons do primarily when they go into the cities or other countries especially Dubai, Oman, Qatar, Kuwait, etc. - there is a lot of them who are of mixed ancestry. Minorities inter-marry with other groups all the time actually moreso because of a lack of family ties, inability to bring someone from "back home" or just getting use to living with the majority and it not being as weird to marry one of them. I personally know of the Arab inter-mixing and with Pashtoons as well, it's not that big of a deal although its not as widespread as with other ethnic groups. I mean, you mentioned the Brahui yourself as an Indic group and they are, to paraphrase you, so inter-mixed with the Baloch now that you can't tell the difference so it's not impossible.

              With the patriarchal point, it was a type - I meant to say whatever your father is the child is as well. I think that addresses most of what you covered, Jumaa day puh khair.

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              • Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                I think you've exposed the obvious Punjabi ideology of keeping the proud Baluch backwards. So for him to be a true Baluch, he should not use internet? Let me guess, for a Pashtun to be a true Pashtun, he should consistently wage Jihad and remain backwards? For a Punjabi to be a true Punjabi, he should consistently rob Baluchistan and get more wealthy? Aside from exposing the obvious ideology, you are making a bozo out of yourself.
                Well i respect ur views ,,i consider every ethnic group to be equal and to be honest i read his views which are completely distored from the truth..
                about the sardar thing ,, was just kidding mate..i know alot of baloch and none of them acts like him

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                • Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
                  Well i respect ur views ,,i consider every ethnic group to be equal and to be honest i read his views which are completely distored from the truth..
                  about the sardar thing ,, was just kidding mate..i know alot of baloch and none of them acts like him
                  I have to go ill answer your questions later. What do you mean acting like? in this form there are several pashtuns some are totally twisted, some are generous, some are extremely extremist, some are good, some are gentle, some are harsh, some are cursive. You will find all kinds. I am just one here. Come see me in real life so we can talk together, you have been brainwashed by your paki state.
                  جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
                  G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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                  • Originally posted by M17ArnoBaloch View Post
                    Oh my god, now im an Indian trying to be "baloch". JOKE OF THE DAY.

                    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.



                    yes you are. ofcourse.

                    WOW. ladies an gentlemen. I am an Indian now. LMFAO.

                    One word for you: Troll.

                    A Sentence for you: "A troll who can't argue intellectually"



                    What good try ????????

                    what are you saying ??

                    I didn't do anything.

                    Go worship your porkistan you cow. Pakis are the most ridiculous people on earth who kill Baloch and Pashtun alike. You guys have Hindu culture in you. Almost every paki has hindu culture in them. You are guys were Hindus long ago. Pakis are originally Indians. They are indic groups. Panjabis were Indians before migration. You guys are ethnically Indians and classify as "Indic groups" and Dravidians. You guys have hindu culture in you and you still practice it. Your women dance on Indian songs on weddings and they have several hindu culture in them like for example the bride wears "redish" type of clothes, You guys play indian songs. You guys practices indian/hindu traditions like mehendi which is not an Islamic but a Hindu/Indian culture. You guys are filled with Hindu things and you still call yourself Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

                    You porkistani are indians.
                    lol .....i am indian ok ..now r u satisfied ..
                    u as a baloch(if u r ) are not even considered gypsies in iran or pakistan ..google ur true condition in iran GYPSY

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                    • Originally posted by M17ArnoBaloch View Post
                      I have to go ill answer your questions later. What do you mean acting like? in this form there are several pashtuns some are totally twisted, some are generous, some are extremely extremist, some are good, some are gentle, some are harsh, some are cursive. You will find all kinds. I am just one here. Come see me in real life so we can talk together, you have been brainwashed by your paki state.
                      where do u wana meet ..i m in sydney..
                      well i think lets meet in pakistan ..do u get off at islamabad airport or pishin international airport

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                      • Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
                        lol .....i am indian ok ..now r u satisfied ..
                        u as a baloch(if u r ) are not even considered gypsies in iran or pakistan ..google ur true condition in iran GYPSY
                        You are an indian, you can't deny that. Paki is a new term made 60 years ago before that you all shared a common word: "Indians". Why are you laughing? Go learn your history dude.

                        Iran is the same thing as you. But the condition in Pakistan is brutal to the Baloch. They are being killed everyday in abundance because they simply call for independence. You have no idea what they do to you. They lash you, they electrocute you, they burn you alive and throw your body so everyone can take an example. That's the reason most Baloch dont speak about indepence because they have learned from the lessons of the brutally tortured people. But some do, and they are struggling to stand up the army even though they are very strong, they have killed numerous Porki soldiers and are still doing so. When Baloch keep quiet its because they know that the situation is very bad and they shouldn't say stuff like Azad Balochistan. And If they do you call them "Indian agents", you need to step into Balochistan and see the situation yourself, ask any family and they will tell you that they want seperation but wont say it on public. Porki need to die and leave our rich land alone as it was forcefully occupied/merged in 1948 prior to a military operation conducted by your porki generals.

                        You have zero idea dude. You think we should shut our mouths and be slaves to you? You think just because we do that you call me a Not a Real Baloch? you are seriously have a screw loose somewhere in the brain no one likes you Porkis (indics) killing both Pashtun and Baloch like that. You have not experienced anything. You never showed any proof the moment you started posting here.
                        Last edited by M17ArnoBaloch; 07-05-2013, 03:18 PM.
                        جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
                        G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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                        • Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
                          where do u wana meet ..i m in sydney..
                          well i think lets meet in pakistan ..do u get off at islamabad airport or pishin international airport
                          I think u r an ISI. please dont kill me, i dun wanna met u lol. go away fagot.
                          جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
                          G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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                          • Originally posted by M17ArnoBaloch View Post
                            I think u r an ISI. please dont kill me, i dun wanna met u lol. go away fagot.
                            dnt cry gypsy .. gypsies are like dravidians ,,even some of ur tribes are pure dravidians..gypsies orginated amongst u ....
                            u know by saying words like porki are not gonna hurt me as i will call u those names which u r and they are gonna hurt u pretty badly .. if u start talking sensibly then we can have a serious chat .but i think balochs like u need to be always confined under a sardar so that ur kinds can be tamed in the best possible manner..
                            Gypsy baloch ..

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                            • Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
                              dnt cry gypsy .. gypsies are like dravidians ,,even some of ur tribes are pure dravidians..gypsies orginated amongst u ....
                              u know by saying words like porki are not gonna hurt me as i will call u those names which u r and they are gonna hurt u pretty badly .. if u start talking sensibly then we can have a serious chat .but i think balochs like u need to be always confined under a sardar so that ur kinds can be tamed in the best possible manner..
                              Gypsy baloch ..
                              even some of ur tribes are pure dravidians
                              Please go to the Doctor, ASAP. This statement proves how IGNORANT a porki like you can ever be. It's like saying My dad was impregnated by my mom and I was born. How idiot are you? The fact is that YOU are a dravidian. Accept it. Don't hate yourself.

                              Let's have a chat. PLEASE Show me, Show me what your points are and how awesome your knowledge is and How mighty your Pakistan is.
                              جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
                              G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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                              • Originally posted by M17ArnoBaloch View Post
                                Please go to the Doctor, ASAP. This statement proves how IGNORANT a porki like you can ever be. It's like saying My dad was impregnated by my mom and I was born. How idiot are you? The fact is that YOU are a dravidian. Accept it. Don't hate yourself.

                                Let's have a chat. PLEASE Show me, Show me what your points are and how awesome your knowledge is and How mighty your Pakistan is.
                                pakistan might not be mighty but still its better than u .. but still i think u need to review alot of information that u r providing to other people and u r exaggerating alot .. for example more than half of the cricket team is made up of pashtuns(u shud say at the moment pashtuns are the best players amongst our(not urs) cricket team).. man cmon this is just one of them after that i didnt bother reading ur bs

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