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  • #61
    Originally posted by khushal View Post
    The biggest threat to a tyrant is the first amendment.
    Is America led by a tyrant ? Yes.

    Is Afghanistan led by tyrants ? Yes.

    Are Saudi Arabia, Yemen led by tyrants ? Yes.

    Is Somalia led by tyrants ? Yes.

    Are West African countries led by tyrants ? Yes.

    The biggest threat to a tyrant are the media.

    Even if you have all the weapons in the world, if you don't know who is your enemy, you will end up killing innocent people in the other corner of the world instead of your true oppressors.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post
      Is America led by a tyrant ? Yes.

      Is Afghanistan led by tyrants ? Yes.

      Are Saudi Arabia, Yemen led by tyrants ? Yes.

      Is Somalia led by tyrants ? Yes.

      Are West African countries led by tyrants ? Yes.

      The biggest threat to a tyrant are the media.

      Even if you have all the weapons in the world, if you don't know who is your enemy, you will end up killing innocent people in the other corner of the world instead of your true oppressors.
      I don't think America is led by a tyrant but countries like saudi and some of the other ones you mention are and the reason the reason the people cant express their opinion and change their tyrants behavior or overthrow him is because the tyrants have disarmed their respective population's ability to protect themselves. Syria, Libya are perfect examples. People in the past could not express their opinions and criticize its tyrant because as soon as they did, they were silenced with guns that only the tyrant had. The people did not have the means to protect themselves but as soon as they were armed with protection, they did not hesitate to express their opinion.

      A free society is one that gives power to its people and as long as its people have leverage over its government, the government will be forced to serve its people otherwise its people will either force it to change its behavior or replace it.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by khushal View Post
        I don't think America is led by a tyrant
        Think again.

        America is led by the biggest tyrants in the world.

        But since these tyrants control American media, they magically don't exist in the minds of the average Americans like you.


        Originally posted by khushal View Post
        but countries like saudi and some of the other ones you mention are and the reason the reason the people cant express their opinion and change their tyrants behavior or overthrow him is because the tyrants have disarmed their respective population's ability to protect themselves.
        Wrong.

        Funny that you mentionned Syria and Saudi Arabia because they are counter-examples to your theory.

        World map of civilian gun ownership






        Originally posted by khushal View Post
        Syria, Libya are perfect examples. People in the past could not express their opinions and criticize its tyrant because as soon as they did, they were silenced with guns that only the tyrant had. The people did not have the means to protect themselves but as soon as they were armed with protection, they did not hesitate to express their opinion.
        Wrong again.

        Afghans civilians have access to an infinite number of weapons as they wish. Yet they keep killing each others instead of killing their oppressors.


        Originally posted by khushal View Post
        A free society is one that gives power to its people and as long as its people have leverage over its government, the government will be forced to serve its people otherwise its people will either force it to change its behavior or replace it.
        Not if the government is smart enough to fill their brain with lady gaga and dr. phil so that they are enslaved by the free-market and too lazy to revolt against their leaders.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post
          Think again.
          America is led by the biggest tyrants in the world.

          But since these tyrants control American media, they magically don't exist in the minds of the average Americans like you

          Wrong

          Funny that you mentionned Syria and Saudi Arabia because they are counter-examples to your theory.

          World map of civilian gun ownership








          Wrong again.

          Afghans civilians have access to an infinite number of weapons as they wish. Yet they keep killing each others instead of killing their oppressors.




          Not if the government is smart enough to fill their brain with lady gaga and dr. phil so that they are enslaved by the free-market and too lazy to revolt against their leaders.
          Your statements are filled with contradiction. First your map says that afghanistan has less than 5 weapons per 100 persons and then you say that afghans have access to an infinite supply of weapons. Besides that Afghanistan instability is caused by tyranny and so is Syria, Libya. If those governmnets actually worked for their people, no one would fight them but on the contrary, they would protect them to the death.
          The argument is not about lady gaga, if the people want lady gaga, then that is their choice. If people want to see lady gaga, that does not mean those people live under a tyrant. Actually not giving them what they want which is lady gaga would be tyranny.

          For the record there are more guns than people in both the US and Afghanistan and in the middle east, almost all the weapons are in the governments hands so you map is useless in this discussion. IF you have a source that tells how much weapons are with the people, then that data we could use in this discussion.
          Last edited by khushal; 03-24-2013, 11:34 PM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by TheCongo View Post
            Pashtun Style
            wowwwwwwwwwwww she's smoking

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            • #66
              most of the tyrants are actually puppets, alf.
              the biggest threat to those tyrants, is losing the backing of their puppetmasters.

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              • #67
                @Al Hanif - your chart shows the absolute numbers of firearms, but doesn't indicate the type. Bird hunting shotguns, single digit magazine capacity bolt action 'deer rifles'... you aren't overthrowing anyone with those.
                په پښتو ژبه ټایپ کول تاسو غواري؟ بيا داسې وکړي چې
                دلته وهي

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