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  • #16
    ^like it
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    • #17
      PS@ Sangar ... WAalaikum Asalaam WaRAhmatullahi WaBArakatuhu WaMaghfiratuhu

      Afridi ...within the first couple of posts ... posts about how CLEARLY it is a bad choice to marry a girl in the west

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      • #18
        hahahahhaha our family and most of or community dont like marrying back home! we prefer 2 stick 2 the west!
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        • #19
          ^ I am not saying everyone should stick to ONE location, and be glued there... MashaAllah our community is spread throughout the world ... but I don't like the fact that a group of girls are thrown in the fire because of where they live.

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          • #20
            no its just we have horror stories of girls and boys coming from "back home" we prfer not 2 associate with them in terms of marriage
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            • #21
              ^ I am sorry to hear that ...

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              • #22
                dont be! Our pashtun community in the UK is large enough... there is no shortage of spouses here
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Timbaktu
                  Why the hell are you guys only talking about girls, what about the boys?

                  Pashtun boys are 100 times more ayash than our girls. Our girls even in the west are jewels and saints compared to our boys. Fact of the matter is we pashtuns have a very sick mentality where we allow boys to do everything they want but punish girls for every small mistake in the name of so called ghairat and namos. Islam doesn't discriminate in this way so its our own culture and mentality.

                  I don't think "import" is the right word, it seem disrespectful. But I see nothing wrong with bringing a girl over if you like each other and are compatible in terms of your values and personality. But its not right to go over there and look for virgin and clean girls when you yourself are not clean.

                  Good girls deserve good boys and bad girls deserve bad boys.
                  Beautiful. Just too beautiful to be true!

                  Thank you.

                  As always, the blame is put on the women/girls, as if our men/boys are any more innocent than their female counterparts.

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                  • #24
                    so your assuming people in the west are "unclean" no dounbt shaytan only operates in the west which is why muslims in the east are so pure and its like a janaat there
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by handsomepashtun
                      I am not against importing, but importing means what you will be getting is probably more obedient and cleaner compared to the west.
                      Are you talking about girls to marry or objects to use?

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                      • #26
                        Personally, I would prefer to find somebody from the west, even though some of the girls are badly messed up, the same could be said about the guys, in fact the muslim guys nowadays are mostly hypocrites. Timbuktu wror pretty much summed up what I would say.

                        I would find it a major blessing to find a decent girl here and treasure her more because of the sort of society we live in. And believe me there are such fantastic girls out there masha allah. We all think finding a girl from backhome is the perfect answer to a good wife but from my experiences with family backhome I can say otherwise But then again there are dodgy people and good people everywhere!

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                        • #27
                          women or men back home are not necessarily angels.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Timbaktu
                            Why the hell are you guys only talking about girls, what about the boys?

                            Pashtun boys are 100 times more ayash than our girls. Our girls even in the west are jewels and saints compared to our boys. Fact of the matter is we pashtuns have a very sick mentality where we allow boys to do everything they want but punish girls for every small mistake in the name of so called ghairat and namos. Islam doesn't discriminate in this way so its our own culture and mentality.

                            I don't think "import" is the right word, it seem disrespectful. But I see nothing wrong with bringing a girl over if you like each other and are compatible in terms of your values and personality. But its not right to go over there and look for virgin and clean girls when you yourself are not clean.

                            Good girls deserve good boys and bad girls deserve bad boys.
                            Thank you!!

                            People go around saying that girls in the West are impure dirty and you know, *****s.

                            1. Nobody asked you to marry those "dirty" girls. There's plenty of fish in the sea but if you prefer to hang around by the gutter, you won't see the nice fish in the sea lol
                            2. ALL of them can't possibly be "dirty" else, it'd include your Namoos, your sisters and nieces etc. and you sure would wanna exclude those from that dirty generalization, right?
                            3. How can you not trust the girls over here that you grew up with and instead trust strangers all the way across the globe? Just because you don't SEE them doing certain things it doesn't mean they aren't doing them. Just because girls over here do certain things deliberately, like showing their hair or going out with friends (OMG shaaame shame!), it doesn't mean that girls back home don't do other things that you are unaware of. Fact of the matter is, you won't be able to trace back the past of your future spouse and determine the degree of their purity lol.. there is a reason why in Islam you're not supposed to ask too much about your spouse's past and rather worry about the present and the future.
                            4. If everyone engages in such behavior, who WILL marry the girls over here and what option do they even have left but to settle for Non-Pashtuns/Non-Afghans? And that too adds to the stigma that "Zaan zandi wrak day, bala Kablian au Arabian kayi." No khod Kablian o Arabian kayi chi garda Shahzada Pashtana Halookan mu Takki daleh achaayi au bia zih, Maandina da Pakistana raghoari.
                            5. I'm not even gonna start this "guys are much worse than girls"-issue.. just a kind reminder: Those who are bad at heart will always look for the bad in others; those who are good at heart will always look for the good in others. =)
                            6. I'm done venting. lol

                            Daa zma lewanay Zrra gorah, daa sta lewanee Mina..
                            Za ba da Sahra warnakam da Iran pa Golestan,
                            Dalta za yao & yakta yam, halta zar zma pa Shaan
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mayana View Post
                              Thank you!!

                              People go around saying that girls in the West are impure dirty and you know, *****s.

                              1. Nobody asked you to marry those "dirty" girls. There's plenty of fish in the sea but if you prefer to hang around by the gutter, you won't see the nice fish in the sea lol
                              2. ALL of them can't possibly be "dirty" else, it'd include your Namoos, your sisters and nieces etc. and you sure would wanna exclude those from that dirty generalization, right?
                              3. How can you not trust the girls over here that you grew up with and instead trust strangers all the way across the globe? Just because you don't SEE them doing certain things it doesn't mean they aren't doing them. Just because girls over here do certain things deliberately, like showing their hair or going out with friends (OMG shaaame shame!), it doesn't mean that girls back home don't do other things that you are unaware of. Fact of the matter is, you won't be able to trace back the past of your future spouse and determine the degree of their purity lol.. there is a reason why in Islam you're not supposed to ask too much about your spouse's past and rather worry about the present and the future.
                              4. If everyone engages in such behavior, who WILL marry the girls over here and what option do they even have left but to settle for Non-Pashtuns/Non-Afghans? And that too adds to the stigma that "Zaan zandi wrak day, bala Kablian au Arabian kayi." No khod Kablian o Arabian kayi chi garda Shahzada Pashtana Halookan mu Takki daleh achaayi au bia zih, Maandina da Pakistana raghoari.
                              5. I'm not even gonna start this "guys are much worse than girls"-issue.. just a kind reminder: Those who are bad at heart will always look for the bad in others; those who are good at heart will always look for the good in others. =)
                              6. I'm done venting. lol
                              I agree with that, in fact girls backhome turn out to be worse here because over there they COULDN'T do what they willed and given the freedom here they rot inside out. Don't get me started on what the guys from backhome get up to here

                              Ps love your number 5

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Timbaktu
                                Why the hell are you guys only talking about girls, what about the boys?

                                Pashtun boys are 100 times more ayash than our girls. Our girls even in the west are jewels and saints compared to our boys. Fact of the matter is we pashtuns have a very sick mentality where we allow boys to do everything they want but punish girls for every small mistake in the name of so called ghairat and namos. Islam doesn't discriminate in this way so its our own culture and mentality.

                                I don't think "import" is the right word, it seem disrespectful. But I see nothing wrong with bringing a girl over if you like each other and are compatible in terms of your values and personality. But its not right to go over there and look for virgin and clean girls when you yourself are not clean.

                                Good girls deserve good boys and bad girls deserve bad boys.
                                That was so like Perfect..!

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