Marriage to non-Pashtuns

[Shayesta]

@Maseed
Do you remember that once you said we are two different people thinking with the same mind? I agree and I respect your honesty which you have shown in other threads as well, no matter how harsh the truth was. But my problem with you is (and you might not even care about this) your way of talking. You never point out to Pukhtoons what they are doing wrong, you just badmouth them for doing something wrong. You don't agree with Pukhtoons on disagreeing with them, you badmouth them for disagreeing with you. If you yourself can't calm down (even towards women) then how can you expect anyone to understand your way of thinking and even agree with it? You are speaking the truth, but just your way of speaking it is (in my eyes) wrong.

I agree that because Pukhtoons are horrible at maintaining their language and culture when marrying outside their race, it's best for majority of us to marry within our own race. But since I and majority of women in my family married non-Pukhtoons, I directly have lost the right to say what's right and what's wrong for Pukhtoons to do when it comes to choosing their own partners. But the difference here is every single person who has married in my family (male or female) has completely 'Pukhtunized' and their children don't even know they got Tajik blood running through their veins. And I know of millions of Pukhtoons who despite marrying Pukhtana's speak Dari as their first language and not only that; Their children turn into completely 'Farsiwanan', and my friend is an example who married such a family. Now you tell me, do you respect my friend for marrying a Pukhtoon despite of him refusing to say he is a Pukhtoon? Or do you disrespect me and women in my family who despite of marrying non-Pukhtoons managed to keep Pukhtoon culture and language in-tact 100%?

[Muslimah]

^ manana khor

[MazloomyarMaseed]

@Maseed
Do you remember that once you said we are two different people thinking with the same mind? I agree and I respect your honesty which you have shown in other threads as well, no matter how harsh the truth was. But my problem with you is (and you might not even care about this) your way of talking. You never point out to Pukhtoons what they are doing wrong, you just badmouth them for doing something wrong. You don't agree with Pukhtoons on disagreeing with them, you badmouth them for disagreeing with you. If you yourself can't calm down (even towards women) then how can you expect anyone to understand your way of thinking and even agree with it? You are speaking the truth, but just your way of speaking it is (in my eyes) wrong.

I agree that because Pukhtoons are horrible at maintaining their language and culture when marrying outside their race, it's best for majority of us to marry within our own race. But since I and majority of women in my family married non-Pukhtoons, I directly have lost the right to say what's right and what's wrong for Pukhtoons to do when it comes to choosing their own partners. But the difference here is every single person who has married in my family (male or female) has completely 'Pukhtunized' and their children don't even know they got Tajik blood running through their veins. And I know of millions of Pukhtoons who despite marrying Pukhtana's speak Dari as their first language and not only that; Their children turn into completely 'Farsiwanan', and my friend is an example who married such a family. Now you tell me, do you respect my friend for marrying a Pukhtoon despite of him refusing to say he is a Pukhtoon? Or do you disrespect me and women in my family who despite of marrying non-Pukhtoons managed to keep Pukhtoon culture and language in-tact 100%?

I have always pointed out the problems of Pashtuns, i dont bad mouth them at all, i try to put reality into their eyes.

I understand Influence is a major problem, take our friend Qurratgai, shes influenced highly from American Femism and Homosexual rights organisations, she is a Swatay in America, but is more American than Swatay, sadly this is a problem that has a dead end, in your example, Tajiks are not bad blood wise, as Both pashtun and tajik have very close bloodlines, but however, many pashtuns adapt them as their role models and leaders, just something that is very difficult to explain.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Same here.



You SO beat me to it! Good thinking, bro! Too bad some of us don't know this yet

Did you just confess your an Asthiest?

Why dont you just admitt it right at the start???

If you are a Muslim, you would know that mankind started frm adam and eve not from Africa.

hahaha we caught you red handed here.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

some of the most devout muslims I know are from Africa.

I think Maseed - you seem just not for Pashtuns associating with the rest of the world. But...that is a pretty high hope. You may be able to do that with your family, and with your children - but in this day and age...its VERY unlikely.

Its almost like Pashtuns are going out of extinction - and he fears they will. Am I right? Trust me, pashtuns - no matter where they live or who they're with - if they're true pashtuns, they won't forget it.

I am like 5th generation French, and I am so proud of my french name, i learned the language, celebrate all the holidays and so on. I'm 3rd generation Lebanese, but I taught myself arabic, and also follow the culture. Yes, that means I follow 2 different cultures, but its a beautiful thing. HOWEVER, RACISM IS NOT BEAUTIFUL. Its also the reason people are over there killing Pashtuns.

This day and age?

I hope my pashtun society doesnt turn into what i call European Cense pools of mixing and matching.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Egyptian women....which is in AFRICA....

I see very modest, beautiful Muslims. Where are the monkeys?

Please keep your obcession with marrying Arabs to yourself darling.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

By the way, sis Muslimah, I think that it’d be of much benefit to you if you found some non-Pashtun women who are married to Pashtuns (or who are engaged or committed to Pashtun men). They will give you a lot of hints for how to go about making this marriage of yours happen, and you'll have a support group as well.

I'm sure there are some online networks for that, and if I find some, I'll share them with you. But I'd urge you to find as many Pashtuns as you can in person. I know tonnnnnnnnnnnns of Pashtuns in Toronto, and I'd be happy to mention them to you. Perhaps they can meet your friend and help him figure out how to reason with his parents, in as good and as Pashtun a manner as possible.

Are you some kind Marry a Pashtun man dating agency? It is haram to get advice from a woman who poses as a Muslim and scholar of Hadith and Islam, but on other side supports the whole Godless African origin theory.

Take of your sheep coat and show us the wolf!!!

There are many nice pashtun women in Pakhtunkhwa and Afghanistan for Pashtun men to marry, they dont need confused european girls to start producing half cast babies.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Deary me, how could you say such a thing. This is a international, public forum, please watch what you say.

In the eyes of the God we're all the same. Being Pashtun doesn't automatically mean you're better than any other human being.

Oh and one more thing bro:

“Certainly He does not love the proud ones.” (16:23)

Who said Pashtun means better, when have i said pashtun means better, its just better that we dont mix with Angreeezun and Africans.

I understand, you may have the hots for Blacks such as Mos def, 2pac but some of us dont.

I also understand you would love to see Pashtun women dressed as *****s beside a Black Pimp on some hip hop video.

Regards

[MazloomyarMaseed]

clearly you didn't read what i just wrote

I said..of course people have their preference. But you can't enforce it by threatening to kill them if they don't marry within a culture. That's BS. I was commenting on what Maseed said. He said those who marry out of Pashtun should die.

And it also isn't nice to sit and call people names for looking different. Racism is NOT cool! Especially when its so blunt.

I have a preference, but if I met an eskimo Muslim who lived in an igloo and had all the qualities I wanted - I would totally go for it.

You are the typical fustrated european girl, you will go for anything but not your own. Maybe its gentic or maybe you like experimenting, but who knows.

I stand firmly, that Pashtuns who traitor their own people by marrying outside of their respective tribe should be hanged publically.

Those who promote "Marry a Pashtun" should be lashed very hard. Websites such as Shadi.com and other Inter mixing sites, should be banned. Africans/Europeans would never be allowed to go near a Pashtun women/man.

I would promote Culture and language for educational purposes, I would promote world unity but I will never promote, sexual desires of some, to procreate babies who will turn out very unpashtun.

Regards

[MazloomyarMaseed]

There's an outstanding matter then ... because on the 30th April, you agreed with rather objectionable remark that Maseed made with regards to the "breeding" with Africans.

You thanked him for it.

I hadn't realised that Nick Griffin had started mini-racial colonies in the minds of second/third generation Brit Asians living in the UK, but I was wrong. Brit Asians present the irony because despite being a generation or two away from the time of arrival and having to struggle with signs that said "No to Pakeestanees" when they wanted rooms to rent (look at any of the 60s B&W photo archives of Britain) to this generation of Brit Asians who will tell you that too many Iraqi Kurds have moved into their neighbourhoods and that Woolworths has been taken over by Africans and Poles.

On scale of 1-10, 1 being slightly witty, 5 being flippant, 7 being sarcastic and 10 being outright and scornful, my tolerance level for this kind of racism is about 37.

Please visit UK and you will see how bad the new arrivals are. Kurds especially, I understand you may like Kurds, due to the facts, nearly every kurd i see, has married some confused european girl.

Who says I like Nick griffths?
I can work in the UK, earn Money, but i haven no right stealing their women, insulting their culture and values.

I can be living in Britain and not marrying a British women, when has your sexual desire made you good?

Tor Khan, would you allow your Pashtun women to marry a Black African and consider it good just to look good?

[Pakhtunzai]

Just because she is calling all of us equal doesn't mean she wants pakhtun women with some black pimps!

What is the aim in all of this, put your energy into something constructive rather than venting your anger out on pointless things...

This is the reason why you have been kicked out of other forums..come on grow up man!

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Just because she is calling all of us equal doesn't mean she wants pakhtun women with some black pimps!

What is the aim in all of this, put your energy into something constructive rather than venting your anger out on pointless things...

This is the reason why you have been kicked out of other forums..come on grow up man!

You first learn who you truely are, then speak about why i get kicked out of forums.

[Pakhtunzai]

Lol...What are you implying, that i'm not pakhtun..hmm I may not be but it is indeed my blood and I strive to help other pakhtuns what are you doing to help pakhtuns eh?? Rather than hurting people on this forum and giving a bad image why not aim to be better?

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Lol...What are you implying, that i'm not pakhtun..hmm I may not be but it is indeed my blood and I strive to help other pakhtuns what are you doing to help pakhtuns eh?? Rather than hurting people on this forum and giving a bad image why not aim to be better?

What have i done for Pukhtuns?

Buddy, I spent a whole month distrubuting food items to IDPS from Waziristan in Di Khan.

I spent over 7 years promoting Pashtun unity for it failed because Pashtuns seem like they dont want to unite and fight eachother.

I am doing alot for Pashtuns, but it seems those who are not Pashtun are representing as leaders of Pashtuns.

That is the problem.

[Pakhtunzai]

What have i done for Pukhtuns?

Buddy, I spent a whole month distrubuting food items to IDPS from Waziristan in Di Khan.

I spent over 7 years promoting Pashtun unity for it failed because Pashtuns seem like they dont want to unite and fight eachother.

I am doing alot for Pashtuns, but it seems those who are not Pashtun are representing as leaders of Pashtuns.

That is the problem.

Masha allah wrora thats good, may Allah bless you for doing that

Keep on trying for unity insha allah, one day we will all realise that disunity was the problem. I understand it is difficult for you but at the same time its difficult for all of us..we are all brothers and sisters here, listen to what Shayesta khor said I agree with her too.

This forum is our home..an online safe haven and if there isn't any peace in home then where do we find peace?