Marriage to non-Pashtuns

[Alchemist]

I wouldn't mind as long as they were old enough to know what they were doing. Why would anyone have a problem with it?

let me eleborate on what he means by "know what they are "doing"" so there isn't any confusion


...commonly the phrase would mean that they know how to avoid unwanted pregnancies...so as long as his sister or whatever knows about birth control pills and contraceptives, then there can't be any "problems" for him. But even in the worst case scenerio, whatever happens to her can't be her problem since she is old enough to run her own life and he does not feel responsible for her loses since her mate choices are her gamble and his his own.

Can you say bayghairat?

[roadrunner]

It seems all you can think about is sex.

In fact, I do not care what any other human being does, as long as they're happy with it and old enough.

What on earth makes you believe it's your business or mine, mr villageking?

[Alchemist]

It seems all you can think about is sex.

In fact, I do not care what any other human being does, as long as they're happy with it and old enough.

What on earth makes you believe it's your business or mine, mr villageking?

look here mr.delusional
what your sister does is also your business because she is your family.

I could go into details and explain to you the real social cost and consequence and ramifications of your sister and your immoral behaviour but I doubt your myopic and egocentric brain could grasp the big picture.


And what on Allah's green earth do you mean by "old enough"?

What the hell does that mean dude?


Old enough for what? What are you saying? That people get smarter as they get older? look at you...you are the same clown you were 5 years ago...the only thing you have is just lessons from experience. So basically what you are justifying is your sisters string of bad relationships as life lessons that would supposedly make her wiser and more able to choose her mate ...her self. Since its not your dad or mom, or your business who your sister ends up ...guess she is left to her own devises... great! now she has to take pictures of herself and paste it on facebook like some mail bride.


No srsly....what do you mean by "old enough" ...because technically speaking you are old enough when you hit puberty... let's phrase the question another way...when were you old enough to know huh? 12? 14? ...stop fooling your self johnny lever.

[roadrunner]

You're a fundamentalist, Alchemist.

If i were like you, I'd take you to the extreme and say you were going to lock your sister up in her bedroom and bash her with a broomstick till she bled and saw "the light" of your ways.

But I won't as I'm not a fundamentalist like you.

There's an important concept to real Pashtuns. To look at others as individuals, and to accept they are free to live as they choose. So no, it's none of my business if she's old enough. Might is not right, which is the philosophy i live by.

[Fahd]

You're a fundamentalist, Alchemist.

If i were like you, I'd take you to the extreme and say you were going to lock your sister up in her bedroom and bash her with a broomstick till she bled and saw "the light" of your ways.

But I won't as I'm not a fundamentalist like you.

There's an important concept to real Pashtuns. To look at others as individuals, and to accept they are free to live as they choose. So no, it's none of my business if she's old enough. Might is not right, which is the philosophy i live by.

we never knew about such things like broomstick . until u mention it now !! lol
so how is ur sister now ?
did she told u about the broomstick ?
or u find it out by ur way !!

pigggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg :D

dont talk about pashtuns cuz it should be ur mouth clean to talk about pashtuns .
what the hell with this pig !! he teach the forums how to go into relationship's and the admins and mod's still keeping this pig in the forum


lol i guess im going to be banned looooooooooooool

[Alchemist]

roadrunner, spare me your ghandism...

I am 10 times more pashtun than you will ever hope to be just because I have something every other pashtun holds dearer to them than their own life....its called ghairat, and it just so happens that there is no equivalent of the word in the english language so you are the loser here.

And contrary to what you believe, afghan society is collective and not individualistic.

What you call "fundamentalism" has its root in christain history and is totally alien to me and my history. This word does not apply here. Instead what I have is called "Principles" ...something a godless heathen like you can also never hope to understand. A man without principles is no more than an animal and what you are advocating for is the same baseless, primal and instinctual activities that my backyard rackoons and chipmunks engage in.

[roadrunner]

roadrunner, spare me your ghandism...

I am 10 times more pashtun than you will ever hope to be just because I have something every other pashtun holds dearer to them than their own life....its called ghairat, and it just so happens that there is no equivalent of the word in the english language so you are the loser here.

And contrary to what you believe, afghan society is collective and not individualistic.

What you call "fundamentalism" has its root in christain history and is totally alien to me and my history. This word does not apply here. Instead what I have is called "Principles" ...something a godless heathen like you can also never hope to understand. A man without principles is no more than an animal and what you are advocating for is the same baseless, primal and instinctual activities that my backyard rackoons and chipmunks engage in.

Typically a fundamentalist sees the world in black and white which is exactly what you do, or appear to be doing here.

The rest of this is babble and typically weak supposition from Mr 10 times a Pashtun.

[Alchemist]

Typically a fundamentalist sees the world in black and white which is exactly what you do, or appear to be doing here.

The rest of this is babble and typically weak supposition from Mr 10 times a Pashtun.

so am i doing it or am i appearing to do it? or you purposefully trying to be gray about it so you don't turn into a "fundamentalist" ...

typically fools are always in the grey area and can't tell the difference between black and white which is why they have an apathetic view towards life that always starts with "I don't care what others do...I just want to live my life and have fun...my sister can do whatever the f she wants"...an atheist by definition has no "fundamentals", which means you don't ascribe to any form of belief in anything and therefore you have no right to judge our "fundamentals"...you should just shut your mouth and mind your own business and stop coming here and preaching to us what we should do because from our point of view...your views are irrelevant and dogmatic. Heck if you know what it is you are arguing for anyway ...

"Oh you are fundamentalist, you want to be beat your sister and lock her up ...you see black and white" ... just stupid cliches and stereotypes with nonsense definitions and labels that you pull out of thin air. You got a problem with people having a religion...go jump off a bridge....troll.

[roadrunner]

so am i doing it or am i appearing to do it? or you purposefully trying to be gray about it so you don't turn into a "fundamentalist" ...

typically fools are always in the grey area and can't tell the difference between black and white which is why they have an apathetic view towards life that always starts with "I don't care what others do...I just want to live my life and have fun...my sister can do whatever the f she wants"...an atheist by definition has no "fundamentals", which means you don't ascribe to any form of belief in anything and therefore you have no right to judge our "fundamentals"...you should just shut your mouth and mind your own business and stop coming here and preaching to us what we should do because from our point of view...your views are irrelevant and dogmatic. Heck if you know what it is you are arguing for anyway ...

"Oh you are fundamentalist, you want to be beat your sister and lock her up ...you see black and white" ... just stupid cliches and stereotypes with nonsense definitions and labels that you pull out of thin air. You got a problem with people having a religion...go jump off a bridge....troll.

Somebody saying "I don't care what others do... " does have one fundamental principle. Freedom of others to choose what they want to do.

However it's not the same fundamentalism as believing everyone should dogmatically believe and obey what they believe. That seems like you.

The rest is just a failed argument.

[Alchemist]

Somebody saying "I don't care what others do... " does have one fundamental principle. Freedom of others to choose what they want to do.

However it's not the same fundamentalism as believing everyone should dogmatically believe and obey what they believe. That seems like you.

The rest is just a failed argument.

if anyone has failed here, it is you.
You failed by running off the road and taking this discussion totally out of context.
We are talking about MARRIAGE. You can rationalize your childish attitudes towards your life somewhere else because your "one fundamental principle" is the reason why you still haven't been able to enter into a stable relationship with just one girl. We might as well open the jail houses and throw out the law books and declare total anarchy so you can be free to be irresponsible.

[roadrunner]

Some people prefer unstable relationships. I don't see why you should have the monopoly on how relationships should be.

[Alchemist]

So what is wrong with road runner?

I don't wish to argue with this idiot anymore.
Clearly he is trying to bring me down to his level and then beat me at what he is best at - being an idiot.
I can't even make sense of his retarded postings. For example, what does the phrase " obey what they believe" mean? How do you obey what you believe? I mean your beliefs aren't autonomous beings that issue commands for you to obey them. So how does your beliefs compel you to obey them when you hold them to be true? Does this mean that you don't do the right thing even though you believe it is the right thing to do?
I can excuse his poor grasp of the english language but what irks me about him is that he defies the rules of logic so brazenly and then goes about telling others they have flawed arguments and lack logic. It's like watching a handicap taunt a champion boxer...all you can do is shake your head at them and feel sorry for them.
Let's examine his one assertion here

a) I fundamentally believe that people should be free to do what they want to do.

b) you can't fundamentally believe in something dogmatically and then obey that belief.

Our genius friend digs his own grave and then buries himself in it. What am I to do but to just point it out to him? He is stupid enough to do it..so even if I did break it down and explain to him that a contradicts b he still won't understand it.

Why can't he just be smart enough to realize that his belief is also dogmatic but he doesn't follow his own belief because he is coming here and telling people that they should not be fundamentalist or should allow their women to work as strippers and date around like hookers and that I should beat my sister and lock her up. In simple language, this is called hypocrisy. When you say one thing but do something else, you are just putting on a show for people. You know that the majority of the people that use the internet are young and they like the mtv lifestyle...they have the same dreams as the new pop songs on afghan satellite station...shinny disco balls and champagne bottles. Little does he know that what he is advocating for is actually a part of the brainwashing that he has been subjected to since birth by the media. "It's my life and I'll do what I want to" is an old song lyric from since the 60's and it resonates with the rebellious adolescents who want to leave the nest of their parents and becoming their own. The problem comes along that such boys never turn to men and are forever trapped in "neverland" where they will always remain peter pan...and people like me who will try to bring them back to reality will be captain hook.

[Catya Sher]

Captain Hook, that's funny! Good analogy and great post.
I see the same pattern.

[khashayar]

^ lol it is back. Hahahaha.

[khashayar]

Alchemist ur posts are too long.

Wanted to read them but .....