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  • #31
    LETS BE SINPIRED FROM THIS RAHEEM SHAH SONG
    YA QURBAN written by Feroz Khan Afridi



    AND THIS GREAT SONG FOR THE MESSAGE OF THE UNITY OF PASHTUNS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6gkLAZx ... re=related



    I am extremely worried about the increasing distance between the Pashtuns of Afghanistan and Pakistan ,,there is a need of more songs like this otherwise Pashtuns on both sides of the border will deem themselves as different races,,,,yes races because already they belong to two different nations ,,,Pakistani and Afghanistani or afghan,,,,,,,,,

    Pashtuns on both sides of the durand line belong to one family, one blood, one language, one culture , one past but now being being part of two different countries,,distance is increasing between them..Pashtuns in Paksitan are coming under influence of Panjabis and Urdu speakers and Pashtuns in Afghanistan are coming under influence of Tajiks and Persian speakers.

    What do you suggest how Pashtuns on both sides can be culturally and linguistically united ?????Their cultural and linguistic unity is the only possibility as their political unity is now an unattainable dream

    What about your comments that how distance between Pashtuns on both sides of the durand line can be reduced and they may come together atleast culturally???? They must be realistic in their approach.Some Pashtuns on both sides want merger of Pashtuns areas which is impossible as how Afghanistan will leave its non -Pashtun areas to be merged with Pashtun areas for a greater Pashtunistan ,,,impossible,,,and how Pakistan will let its Pashtun areas to be separated,,,,,,thats would be too impossible for Pakistan ,,,,,,

    I wish we discuss here how Pashtuns from both sides of the durand line can be united at least culturally,psychologically and liguistically if not politically.

    I REQUEST FRIENDS FROM PAKISTAN AND AFGHANISTAN TO PARTICIPATE AND GIVE THEIR FEED BACK ON THE ISSUE

    As the distance is increasiing and we must learn from nations who speak the same language and have the same culture but are politically different ,,,,,for example all Arab,Spanish,German, French ,English etc speaking people are not the citizens of the same countries but psychologically ,linguistically , culturally they have enormous ties and meet each other in all such events and try to develop linkages which further strenghten thier bonds

    We pashtuns on both sides of the border if cant become one nation politically at least can feel one ethnic group and sons of the same father living in different houses ,,,,,,,We must encourage connections with each other by marriages,conferences,and friendships,. We must feel near to an Afghan Pashtun than to a Pakistani Panjabi and vice versa
    Last edited by Badlun; 05-09-2010, 10:45 PM.

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    • #32
      Manana OSho.
      I will write more about the unity inshallah

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Dinosaur Khan View Post
        ^may be you people changed alot so thats why we seem to u different.... by change i mean farsification.
        Please give me a break you IDless, cultureless and languageless inferior being. What is being original in your sense teezana? You got a long way to go. It must be sad to be compelled and defensive about your state. But it doesn't help unless you do something about it, does it. No wonder you constantly oscilate in differnet direction all the time, you confused character. We speak our language more oriniginally than you can do all in your power to reach that level in decades, your dress, costumes, habits, and even walking, eating and talking is no different from Panjabi. Yes you are very differnt. How would you know the massive alteration in you, your fake Pak history wouldn't tell you that would it?

        No Persianisation Mersianisation zoya. Everything Pashtu comes from Afghanistan not from the likes of you jokers.

        Soon you would claim that Mujrah and those fat chicks with that dirty La-qhore music is part of Pashtun culture. You plonker. You are hopeless any way.
        Last edited by Guest; 05-10-2010, 12:35 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Afghan_Soldier View Post
          Please give me a break you IDless, cultureless and languageless inferior being. What is being original in your sense teezana? You got a long way to go. It must be sad to be compelled and defensive about your state. But it doesn't help unless you do something about it, does it. No wonder you constantly oscilate in differnet direction all the time, you confused character. We speak our language more oriniginally than you can do all in your power to reach that level in decades, your dress, costumes, habits, and even walking, eating and talking is no different from Panjabi. Yes you are very differnt. How would you know the massive alteration in you, your fake Pak history wouldn't tell you that would it?

          No Persianisation Mersianisation zoya. Everything Pashtu comes from Afghanistan not from the likes of you jokers.

          Soon you would claim that Mujrah and those fat chicks with that dirty La-qhore music is part of Pashtun culture. You plonker. You are hopeless any way.
          Calm down your over-excited and irritable neurons, your infant brain cant even know about the situations in your country.
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          • #35
            Such as? I know the state of my country, it is doing better than last year and 10 years ago. Nice way to change the topic. If you are talking about the military presence of foreign troops, it is a reality, who are you to condemn that when you country facilitated that and you're country is also being targeted by drones. More over they are there under the authorisation and impritur of the U.N. What is your problem?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Afghan_Soldier View Post
              Such as? I know the state of my country, it is doing better than last year and 10 years ago. Nice way to change the topic. If you are talking about the military presence of foreign troops, it is a reality, who are you to condemn that when you country facilitated that and you're country is also being targeted by drones. More over they are there under the authorisation and impritur of the U.N. What is your problem?
              I have no problem, hundreds of afghanistanis have agreed with me that unfortunately dari is very dominant over pashto in their country...you are probably ashamed of this fact or probably you are ignorant about the fact....i am not happy over the increased farsifaction in afghanistan....when afghanistanis claim that afghanistan is motherland of pashtuns and gaurdian of pashto, then they have to make pashto a primary langauge not secondary....people of pakhtunkhwa consider afghanistan as motherland of pashtuns and garh of pashto, dont disappoint them......
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Dinosaur Khan View Post
                I have no problem, hundreds of afghanistanis have agreed with me that unfortunately dari is very dominant over pashto in their country...you are probably ashamed of this fact or probably you are ignorant about the fact....i am not happy over the increased farsifaction in afghanistan....when afghanistanis claim that afghanistan is motherland of pashtuns and gaurdian of pashto, then they have to make pashto a primary langauge not secondary....people of pakhtunkhwa consider afghanistan as motherland of pashtuns and garh of pashto, dont disappoint them......
                You are such jumplehead, I guess it was some one else creating threads about Afghanistan being this and that. I understand its some sort of complex if you know what I mean. We are not disappointing no one and honestly and frankly we really don't care that much about people like you as you are of no significance any way. There is no such a thing as Afghanistani, the nationality is called Afghan, just in case you are reading some kind of obscure textbook or randon websites again as your source of information. Dari and Pashtu are enjoying equal status and Pashtu is the language of majority of Afghans and is what lends recognition to a country called Afghanistan. Save your BS you might need it. There are people be it the sold outs inside Afghanistan and Pathans in the form of running dogs of Panjab in ISI who have abused their mother. Mother is something sacred and I wonder if Afghansitan is your motherland, I doubt it any way. Have respect for Pashtunkhwa and its dignity and that is enough. Don't feel edgy when a Pashtun criticises you from clean heart for certain short comings and beghairati, after all we are all called Pashtuns and it pisses us off when our pride is violated either in Afghanistan or in Pashtunkhwa. I guess some times people get used to certain types of beghairati and it becomes a norm.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by pakistani
                  Pashto suffers in Pakistan as it has no status.

                  in Afghanistan it has a much bigger role dino.

                  I am from Pakistan and I have been to Afghanistan.


                  even in Peshawar they choose to speak Hindko and Urdu over Pashto.
                  There is difference dear, you cant compare pakistan and afghanistan when former is not a pashtun country (only%14). you want pashto to be national langauge of pakistan?
                  I live in peshawer, so i think you have not roamed enough in peshawer. There are hinkowans in city , so they will naturally speak hinko ( basically peshawer is theirs).....But still peshawer and quetta are much better than kabul and qandhar despite having large nomber of other ethnicities....visit my lakki marwat or tank or karak or mardan or bannu............then you are free to made the comment regarding condition of pashto and pashtuniyiat in pakhtunkhwa....
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Dinosaur Khan View Post
                    There is difference dear, you cant compare pakistan and afghanistan when former is not a pashtun country (only%14). you want pashto to be national langauge of pakistan?
                    I live in peshawer, so i think you have not roamed enough in peshawer. There are hinkowans in city , so they will naturally speak hinko ( basically peshawer is theirs).....But still peshawer and quetta are much better than kabul and qandhar despite having large nomber of other ethnicities....visit my lakki marwat or tank or karak or mardan or bannu............then you are free to made the comment regarding condition of pashto and pashtuniyiat in pakhtunkhwa....
                    Listen please zip that mouth of your's boy, you are so full of it.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Afghan_Soldier View Post
                      I wonder if Afghansitan is your motherland, I doubt it any way. Have respect for Pashtunkhwa and its dignity and that is enough.
                      I have already mentioned i dont consider afghansitan as motherland of pashtuns, i am not impressed from it.
                      I have feelings for only on place in afghanistan, katawaz, paktia......from where my forefathers have came.
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                      • #41
                        Haha and what about the Pashtuns in Pashtunkhwa, are they confused or are you? How impressive are you? You're hilliraious.

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                        • #42
                          I am not debating with you at all....you are surviving here because of your gaurdian tor khan here.
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                          • #43


                            ملګريه ډائينسور خانه
                            او افغان سولجر ورور

                            زه د ۱۹۹۵ راهسې نيټ استعمالوم او د ورلډ پښتون فاونډيشن صدر(رئيس) هم پاتے شوئ يم
                            ما په ابتدا کښې ډير سخت سخت بحثونه او جنګونه هم په دغه موضوع کړي دي چې څوک
                            ښۀ پښتون دے او کوم يو ښاغلې افغان دے۔

                            په نتيجه کښې ډير ښۀ ښۀ ملګري او دوستان رانه خفه شو او هيڅ فائيده ئې نه ما ته حاصله شوه او نه ماسره بحث کوونکو ته۔

                            البته د يو بل د پاره مو په زړونو کښې نفرتونه نور هم سيوا شول۔
                            نه خو ټول افغانان ښه دي او نه د کوزې پختونخوا ټول پښتانه!!!
                            ښه او بد هر چرته شته۔
                            د دې بحثونو نه هيڅ نه جوړيږي۔
                            زه بحيثيت يو مشر ورور تاسو ته دا خواست کوم چې دا بحث بيخې نظر انداز کړئ او د نووشيانو،علمي او سائينسي ايجاداتو،د مشکلاتو نه د وتلو لارې ګودرې او علمي او ادبي بحثونو له زور ورکړئ۔

                            د لر او بر پښتنو په مينځ کښې د ډيورنډ لائين نه راوروستو ډير بدلون راغلې دے او دا بدلون په سياسي،تعليمي او کلتوري دودونو کښې هم جوت معلوميږي۔
                            مونږ له پکار دي چې خپل لرغوني کلتوري معلومات له يو او بله زده کړو۔
                            د ژبې او فرهنګ زده کړې وکړو او خپل علمي سطح اوچته کړو۔
                            تاسو خپلو مشرانو ته دا هم وائيلې شئ چې په هيواد کښې د هغه خلکو مرستې وکړي څوک چې د غربت او جهالت په رنځ ککړ دي۔

                            خپلو منځ کښې د مينې او محبت خبرو ته دوام ورکړئ۔
                            نفرتونه مه زيګوئ چې اغيار هم دا غواړي چې زمونږ تر منځ اتفاق رانشي۔
                            په الله سپارلي

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Feroz Afridi View Post

                              ملګريه ډائينسور خانه
                              او افغان سولجر ورور

                              زه د ۱۹۹۵ راهسې نيټ استعمالوم او د ورلډ پښتون فاونډيشن صدر(رئيس) هم پاتے شوئ يم
                              ما په ابتدا کښې ډير سخت سخت بحثونه او جنګونه هم په دغه موضوع کړي دي چې څوک
                              ښۀ پښتون دے او کوم يو ښاغلې افغان دے۔

                              په نتيجه کښې ډير ښۀ ښۀ ملګري او دوستان رانه خفه شو او هيڅ فائيده ئې نه ما ته حاصله شوه او نه ماسره بحث کوونکو ته۔

                              البته د يو بل د پاره مو په زړونو کښې نفرتونه نور هم سيوا شول۔
                              نه خو ټول افغانان ښه دي او نه د کوزې پختونخوا ټول پښتانه!!!
                              ښه او بد هر چرته شته۔
                              د دې بحثونو نه هيڅ نه جوړيږي۔
                              زه بحيثيت يو مشر ورور تاسو ته دا خواست کوم چې دا بحث بيخې نظر انداز کړئ او د نووشيانو،علمي او سائينسي ايجاداتو،د مشکلاتو نه د وتلو لارې ګودرې او علمي او ادبي بحثونو له زور ورکړئ۔

                              د لر او بر پښتنو په مينځ کښې د ډيورنډ لائين نه راوروستو ډير بدلون راغلې دے او دا بدلون په سياسي،تعليمي او کلتوري دودونو کښې هم جوت معلوميږي۔
                              مونږ له پکار دي چې خپل لرغوني کلتوري معلومات له يو او بله زده کړو۔
                              د ژبې او فرهنګ زده کړې وکړو او خپل علمي سطح اوچته کړو۔
                              تاسو خپلو مشرانو ته دا هم وائيلې شئ چې په هيواد کښې د هغه خلکو مرستې وکړي څوک چې د غربت او جهالت په رنځ ککړ دي۔

                              خپلو منځ کښې د مينې او محبت خبرو ته دوام ورکړئ۔
                              نفرتونه مه زيګوئ چې اغيار هم دا غواړي چې زمونږ تر منځ اتفاق رانشي۔

                              په الله سپارلي
                              Dear sir you are right, there is no use of debating over such issues, i will ignore such trolls in future.
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                              • #45
                                Drronda mashr wrora FeroZ Afridi saheba, da meeney sakha dak salamoo aw neekey chaari,

                                Khudai de wokrre che zma khabaro pa hets dawl aw soorat sara da staney da sookey pa andaza hum na ye zawredali. zma sta ghoondi pashtanoo sara na da dood aw na da farhang farq sta. da farq ba cheri wee, ka ye tashreh krey?


                                Da baley khwa zma aw da pathanano sara khorra deer farq dee. haghoy na dood pezjani aw na kum farhang che ta yadawi. Ke ye tarkha wowayum, pa pashtu kshe hagha zab-ul-masal day che wayee "da hets-cha zoy na day". za aw ta da cha zmon yu! Fkr kawum che pe araseedee.


                                Aw khudai dee wokre che noor hum pre pohe sawee wee. Khu fekre nakum che sta pa pashtu aw dood aw fahang bade hum booy wrreee, da ba dasee wee che la ka dewal ta khabaree kawee.

                                gustakhi de ma'af wee khu khanda razee.

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