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  • #61
    Originally posted by toughpashtun View Post
    So I actually read and understood your Pashto comment.
    Swatiaan have a very nice style of talking , they have their trademark words.
    Don't know if they use more 'sucha' words compared to surrounding people.
    Not compared to surrounding people but definitely in comparison to Peshawar valley folk. The people from Mountainous areas generally speak more pure Pashto than those of us from the lowlands.
    Originally posted by Kaushika

    majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Traveller View Post
      Not compared to surrounding people but definitely in comparison to Peshawar valley folk. The people from Mountainous areas generally speak more pure Pashto than those of us from the lowlands.
      I guess you're right.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by toughpashtun View Post
        One thing I learnt is that in Pashto the word for interesting is zraporay.
        Also makes me realize that having lived in Peshawar my Pashto is not as pure as some members here in terms of vocabulary , we have the tendency to insert Urdu and English words.Grammatically and fluency wise we are fine.
        But Afghans , I have to hand it to you.Your Pashto is overall much better.
        This conclusion of mine is not just based on this thread but otherwise as well. [MENTION=18139]Shapur[/MENTION] ,happy now? ( you were stressing this that day)

        Since many members here are of Afghan origin , I have also come to the conclusion that the way sentences are structured and grammatically and some vocabulary is actually unique to Afghanistan , and you won't find that anywhere in KP and FATA though the Pashtuns of Balochistan may speak in a similar manner.
        Agree with you bro. I have had many many Afghan friends for most of my life and I find their Pashto is better than the ones in Pakistan. I think it stems from the fact that in Afghanistan a lot of the reading and writing is in Pashto and that definately contributes to the preservation and development of a language.

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        • #64
          Poverty in pashto is 'nisti' learnt this from my Nya, generally uneducated grandparents will use many pure words.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Kakar-Wardak View Post
            Poverty in pashto is 'nisti' learnt this from my Nya, generally uneducated grandparents will use many pure words.
            We say "ghurbat". Would you say that is a Farsi/Arabic word?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Charsi Malang View Post
              We say "ghurbat". Would you say that is a Farsi/Arabic word?
              It's Arabic in origin. Although in Arabic it means "strangeness" and "exile" instead of poverty.
              Originally posted by Kaushika

              majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Charsi Malang View Post
                We say "ghurbat". Would you say that is a Farsi/Arabic word?
                Sounds like it derives from "ghareeb" which is Arabic. Though the meaning is completely different in Arabic (strange), so I wonder if it could possibly be just a coincidence.

                EDIT: ghurba(t) is indeed an Arabic word meaning "strangeness."

                Originally posted by Kakar-Wardak View Post
                Poverty in pashto is 'nisti' learnt this from my Nya, generally uneducated grandparents will use many pure words.
                And a poor person is "nistman." I had actually forgotten about that one since we usually use "ghareeb," and generally use "nistman" figuratively in an insulting way, so thanks for the reminder.
                Last edited by maneatinglizard; 10-04-2017, 09:43 PM.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Charsi Malang View Post
                  We say "ghurbat". Would you say that is a Farsi/Arabic word?
                  Its used in Urdu as well.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Charsi Malang View Post
                    Agree with you bro. I have had many many Afghan friends for most of my life and I find their Pashto is better than the ones in Pakistan. I think it stems from the fact that in Afghanistan a lot of the reading and writing is in Pashto and that definately contributes to the preservation and development of a language.
                    When you translated the sentences I had given , you used dilchasp(an Urdu word) for interesting and parhawom(derived out of parhna which is an Urdu word) for reading.
                    Most of us our guilty of using loanwords.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                      It's pronounced "kwar."
                      Maybe its pronounced kor but the Swaatian say it as kwar.
                      Swaatian use the letter 'w' in their words a lot.

                      khkWallay instead of khkulay. (beautiful)
                      wus instead of 'os' (now)
                      wesa instead of yosa . (take it away)

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by toughpashtun View Post
                        When you translated the sentences I had given , you used dilchasp(an Urdu word) for interesting and parhawom(derived out of parhna which is an Urdu word) for reading.
                        Most of us our guilty of using loanwords.
                        Yes indeed brother. There are probably loads more as well.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Kakar-Wardak View Post
                          Poverty in pashto is 'nisti' learnt this from my Nya, generally uneducated grandparents will use many pure words.
                          Nesti is derived from the Farsi word, "nest" which explains the lack of existence.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Baserka View Post
                            Nesti is derived from the Farsi word, "nest" which explains the lack of existence.
                            I would say common origins, because in most Pashto dialects it is 'Nishta->Neyshti' and 'Nista->Neysti' in the rest...
                            Hence, I would like to conclude that much of Parsi and Pashto vocabulary/grammar has common origins, and they're not derived from each other!!

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Kakar-Wardak View Post
                              Poverty in pashto is 'nisti' learnt this from my Nya, generally uneducated grandparents will use many pure words.
                              Same here wro!!

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by maneatinglizard View Post
                                Sounds like it derives from "ghareeb" which is Arabic. Though the meaning is completely different in Arabic (strange), so I wonder if it could possibly be just a coincidence.

                                EDIT: ghurba(t) is indeed an Arabic word meaning "strangeness."



                                And a poor person is "nistman." I had actually forgotten about that one since we usually use "ghareeb," and generally use "nistman" figuratively in an insulting way, so thanks for the reminder.
                                In Arabic a poor person is known as a "miskeen".

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