Linguistic Convergence between Dari and Pashto

[Firdousi]

Urdu is very hard when you have to learn it properly, eg. in school

Do you know the difference between mujhe mujhko merey ko etc.?

Dude I don't need to know the difference between those words. Fact is I know plenty of Afghans and Iranians living in the GCC and they have learned easily to speak Urdu. Its not that complicated after all Farsi is the father of Urdu. I mean Persian has influenced so much Pakistan that even now Pakis wish to be like us. Can not blame them at all lmao

[dawn]

Urdu is very hard when you have to learn it properly, eg. in school

Do you know the difference between mujhe mujhko merey ko etc.?

"Mere ko" isn't urdu though but bhaiya tapori language spoken by Indian muhajirs in Pakistan.

[dawn]

Dude I don't need to know the difference between those words. Fact is I know plenty of Afghans and Iranians living in the GCC and they have learned easily to speak Urdu. Its not that complicated after all Farsi is the father of Urdu. I mean Persian has influenced so much Pakistan that even now Pakis wish to be like us. Can not blame them at all lmao

urdu is indo-aryan/indic language, not sure what you're smoking. But it's true every afghan I ever met knew how to speak it. Maybe because they had no other option but to speak urdu. If Pakistan had any other official language other then urdu then afghanis today would learn that and speak that language as well. Nothing to do with how easy it is but influence Pakistan have on them. Most afghanis in punjab speak punjabi now days.

[Firdousi]

urdu is indo-aryan/indic language, not sure what you're smoking. But it's true every afghan I ever met knew how to speak it. Maybe because they had no other option but to speak urdu. If Pakistan had any other official language other then urdu then afghanis today would learn that and speak that language as well. Nothing to do with how easy it is but influence Pakistan have on them. Most afghanis in punjab speak punjabi now days.

Urdu is a b*stard language, a mix of Hindi, Farsi and Arabic. Its an easy language, Tilla jaan.

What a lowlife loser you are. You couldn't even wait a day after being banned to come back. Loser lmao

[Dilawerkhan]

Farsi: yak dokhtar bud
Urdu: ek ladki thi
Pashto: yawa injily wa

Farsi: yak bacha bud
Urdu: ek ladka tha
Pashto: yaw halak wo

As you can see, in Urdu the verb was is different for boy and girl, as it is in Pashto. If you get genders confused in Urdu, they will laugh at you. This is why the Pathan accent is considered comical, because they get the genders mixed up. Hence, Urdu is harder than Farsi for a learner.

I agree with you. Gender dependence of verbs makes Urdu harder to learn than Farsi. In your example you have shown thi and tha. There is also the, such as do bachhe the. With feminine plural you can have various forms; do larrkiyan thi, or do awratein thi

That being said, the grammer structure of Pashto makes it harder to learn than Urdu. So in terms of difficulty, IMO Pashto hardest followed by Urdu followed by Farsi. The other thing about Pashto is that the writing is not standardized, so for those learning if they would have to know which of these to pick ئ ۍ ې ي ی for e or y. They also have to be able to differentiate .ږ ښ ز ژ ... etc

Some examples of Pashto verbs taking more forms than urdu:

Ta lewanai shwii - tum pagal ho gaye
Muzh lewanai shwo - hum pagal ho gaye
Haghoi lewanai shwal - voh pagal ho gaye

[dawn]

Urdu is a b*stard language, a mix of Hindi, Farsi and Arabic. Its an easy language, Tilla jaan.

What a lowlife loser you are. You couldn't even wait a day after being banned to come back. Loser lmao

It's a language afghanis have to learn and speak to get somewhere in their pathetic lowbrow lifes. By insulting urdu you're only exposing your upbringing

[Firdousi]

It's a language afghanis have to learn and speak to get somewhere in their pathetic lowbrow lifes. By insulting urdu you're only exposing your upbringing

No Afghan will ever learn Urdu except those who had the bad luck to live in your dirty country. Those who have learned it in Emirates its because Pakistanis are cheap labor workers unable to speak properly English let alone their masters language, Farsi. So they have some basic knowledge about Urdu in order to exploit their Pakistani slaves lmao

BTW I will insult Urdu if that pleases me. We created your ba*tard language so we have every right to insult it. We are your daddies, Paki

[dawn]

No Afghan will ever learn Urdu except those who had the bad luck to live in your dirty country. Those who have learned it in Emirates its because Pakistanis are cheap labor workers unable to speak properly English let alone their masters language, Farsi. So they have some basic knowledge about Urdu in order to exploit their Pakistani slaves lmao

BTW I will insult Urdu if that pleases me. We created your ba*tard language so we have every right to insult it. We are your daddies, Paki

The more you post more retarded you sound, I blame your uneducated parents. The afghanis I met didn't live in Pakistan yet spoke urdu. And get real for once in your life. Afghanis are cheap labour force in Pakistan of all places. At least Pakistanis in UAE are also doing other then being cheap labour for arabs. Engineers, doctors etc

While few educated afghanis are thanks to Pakistan free scholarships, you should be greateful instead of being bitter and looser.

Sorry but madrrasas can only get you so far in real world.

[Firdousi]

The more you post more retarded you sound, I blame your uneducated parents. The afghanis I met didn't live in Pakistan yet spoke urdu. And get real for once in your life. Afghanis are cheap labour force in Pakistan of all places. At least Pakistanis in UAE are also doing other then being cheap labour for arabs. Engineers, doctors etc

While few educated afghanis are thanks to Pakistan free scholarships, you should be greateful instead of being bitter and looser.

Sorry but madrrasas can only get you so far in real world.

Brother I told you once: nobody cares about what you pakistani cockroaches think about us. Your country is disgusting and I really pity those Afghans who had the bad luck to live in there.

Don't kid yourself: Pakistanis, just like their Indian and Bengali brothers, are treated like animals in GCC. Doctors are mainly Arabs and Engineers from Europe and USA. Pakistani are like dirty Apu´s, walking around the dirty streets of Deira lmao

[Barakzai Supply]

No Afghan will ever learn Urdu except those who had the bad luck to live in your dirty country. Those who have learned it in Emirates its because Pakistanis are cheap labor workers unable to speak properly English let alone their masters language, Farsi. So they have some basic knowledge about Urdu in order to exploit their Pakistani slaves lmao

BTW I will insult Urdu if that pleases me. We created your ba*tard language so we have every right to insult it. We are your daddies, Paki

Even Tajiks from Tajikistan can speak basic Urdu which they learnt from Bollywood movies. I know many Tajikistani citizens who migrated to Pakistan because Tajikistan is very poor and all the men have to go abroad. 90% go to Russia because they speak Russian but 10% make it to the Gulf and USA via Pakistan.

[dawn]

Brother I told you once: nobody cares about what you pakistani cockroaches think about us. Your country is disgusting and I really pity those Afghans who had the bad luck to live in there.

Don't kid yourself: Pakistanis, just like their Indian and Bengali brothers, are treated like animals in GCC. Doctors are mainly Arabs and Engineers from Europe and USA. Pakistani are like dirty Apu´s, walking around the dirty streets of Deira lmao

Good imagination but afghanis no matter where live worse then cockroaches. They are treated like pigs in GCC countries and deported every day for being farsis. While in Iran they get treated like pigs for being short legged mongols with closed eyes.

Pakistanis are training arab doctors, engineers, police, army etc No matter how much you cry on this forum, nothing will change this bitter reality.

You can't hide behind niqab of being Persian while in reality you're just another dimwitted tajik who can't open his eyes properly

[Firdousi]

Good imagination but afghanis no matter where live worse then cockroaches. They are treated like pigs in GCC countries and deported every day for being farsis. While in Iran they get treated like pigs for being short legged mongols with closed eyes.

Pakistanis are training arab doctors, engineers, police, army etc No matter how much you cry on this forum, nothing will change this bitter reality.

You can't hide behind niqab of being Persian while in reality you're just another dimwitted tajik who can't open his eyes properly

Too long, did not read it, Tilla jaan lmao

[dawn]

Too long, did not read it, Tilla jaan lmao

wtf is tilla?

[Aryana]

Fact is that Pashto needs to become more standardised. Many countries have languages unique to their nation (Serbian, Polish, etc) so it isn't impossible. Pashtuns have also historically been fluent in Persian and Pashto

~~Note: Most Pashtuns are fluent in both Farsi and Pashto, but all Afghan Pashtuns will now to some extent basic Farsi (like me). Same thing is true the other way around, some Tajiks know both Farsi and Pashto fluently, but all Tajks in Afghanistan will to some extent know basic Pashto. The only differences is in their usage. There are so many dialects of Pashto, and there is no standardised one, unlike Farsi.

[Sarbani]

Fact is that Pashto needs to become more standardised. Many countries have languages unique to their nation (Serbian, Polish, etc) so it isn't impossible. Pashtuns have also historically been fluent in Persian and Pashto

~~Note: Most Pashtuns are fluent in both Farsi and Pashto, but all Afghan Pashtuns will now to some extent basic Farsi (like me). Same thing is true the other way around, some Tajiks know both Farsi and Pashto fluently, but all Tajks in Afghanistan will to some extent know basic Pashto. The only differences is in their usage. There are so many dialects of Pashto, and there is no standardised one, unlike Farsi.

There already sort of is a standardized Pashto based on the Ghilji dialect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Pashto