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    Urdu as they say is the national language of Pakistan, but is it really a language of the people of modern day Pakistan, or even when this country was built?

    If it's not so, then What on earth was the cause of a baseless language implantation on masses that were not familiar with it?

    It was said that Mughals created the language for their armies by mixing of Hindi and persian and that it was lingua franca but now even Urdu speakers intellectuals say this theory is fake, wrong and dodgy.


    They say the mother language of Urdu was (REKHTA) a common spoken language in Delhi's surroundings. When it came to Delhi Darbar and to the meals of AP, CP, Behar and Hyderabad Nawabs then it was mixed with persian and became a majority language of Muslim elites of Hindustan.

    After the partition of India in 1947 majority of Urdu speakers Muslims remained in modern day India and most of the Muslim elites were migrated to Karachi and Dacca.

    In Karachi these migrants or (mahajers) were able to sweep out the regional languages as Sindhi, Karachi, Marwadi, but they were unable to do so in Dhaka and later we saw that this issue became the main reason of Pakistan Bangladesh partition.

    Urdu was blamed in India as the Muslims language, but it was only a blame because it was not the mother tongue of Muslim Mughals or the Muslim masses of Punjab, West Bengal, south India, Baluchistan or NWFP of that time. Rather, it was the language of some Muslim Nawabs and their fellows that was supposed owners and lords of Pakistan.

    This is why Urdu can be found in slums of modern day India and Bangladesh or in the textbooks of Pakistan government run schools

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    Pakistan should go back to install Farsi as their official language again. This makes communication easier with the Iranic world. And yes most of ancient Pakistan was part of ancient Iranic world, even parts of punjab.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Kabulistan View Post
      Pakistan should go back to install Farsi as their official language again. This makes communication easier with the Iranic world. And yes most of ancient Pakistan was part of ancient Iranic world, even parts of punjab.
      No doubt you're a smelly paki yourself, Punjab and Sindh where never part of the Iranic world and one look at them will tell you what they are. The Indus River was the border between Iranic and Indic nations. Stop living in denial and go back to Defence.pk so you can circle jerk with your daalkhor brethren about a Pashtun soldier forcefully impregnating your ancestors.

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      • #4
        Urdu is the best language for us.

        Almost every Pakistani understands it and it's a unifying language. If there was a vote today in Pakistan; 95% of the people would already vote for Urdu.

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        • #5
          Urdu is a Indian language of UP, since Hindi and Urdu were born out of the same source and they are 90% same.

          That said, Urdu was the Islamic language of south asia for the last 300 years or so, this is why it spread through out south asia, from the Pashtun areas in the North, to the Tamil areas in the south,, many many people understand Urdu.

          As for Pakistan, the problem is, it was never a united country, it is basically Punjab that rules, they might as well make Punjabi the national language, but most Punjabis are actually ashamed of their mother language since it is a very rude type language, this is why they will make it the national language

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          • #6
            Urdu is mostly arabic and farsi. Hindi has a minor role in it.

            Today most Pakistani elites prefer English and consider the other languages as inferior(the language of uneducated people), so people are ashamed to speak it. This is done by design, to shame people about their culture and history so they can leave it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by khushal View Post
              Urdu is mostly arabic and farsi. Hindi has a minor role in it.

              Today most Pakistani elites prefer English and consider the other languages as inferior(the language of uneducated people), so people are ashamed to speak it. This is done by design, to shame people about their culture and history so they can leave it.

              Urdu is not Arabic and Farsi, this is myth, just listen to it. It has loan words from arabic and farsi, however 90% of it is Indic and Sanskrit in origin

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hunter View Post
                No doubt you're a smelly paki yourself, Punjab and Sindh where never part of the Iranic world and one look at them will tell you what they are. The Indus River was the border between Iranic and Indic nations. Stop living in denial and go back to Defence.pk so you can circle jerk with your daalkhor brethren about a Pashtun soldier forcefully impregnating your ancestors.

                Pakistan was part of ancient Iranic world. We have -stan in our name to prove this. Just like Kurdistan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, etc.

                Ancient Punjab was an integral part of Iranic world. The word itself is Persian and S(H)indh(ustan) was also part of ancient Iranic world. Originally Iranic world included Sind and Punjab. India is derived from S(H)indh(ustan)...its unfortunate you Blacks steal our Pakistani history...and claim we arr the same as you jungle people
                Last edited by Kabulistan; 09-19-2016, 03:55 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kabulistan View Post
                  Pakistan was part of ancient Iranic world. We have -stan in our name to prove this. Just like Kurdistan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, etc.

                  Ancient Punjab was an integral part of Iranic world. The word itself is Persian and S(H)indh(ustan) was also part of ancient Iranic world. Originally Iranic world included Sind and Punjab. India is derived from S(H)indh(ustan)...its unfortunate you Blacks steal our Pakistani history...and claim we arr the same as you jungle people
                  brothar what you saying? you writes idiot things. we pakistani nothing connected with iranic things. this why i say pashtunes have to stay in afghanistan. its not becose i dont like pashtunes. they different to us pakistanis. so you go back to Kabul now. you white man pathan. i happy black man pakistani same indians man.
                  Last edited by mungojerry; 09-19-2016, 04:09 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mungojerry View Post
                    brothar what you saying? you writes idiot things. we pakistani nothing connected with iranic things. this why i say pashtunes have to stay in afghanistan. its not becose i dont like pashtunes. they different to us pakistanis. so you go back to Kabul now. you white man pathan. i happy black man pakistani same indians man.
                    You are not pakistani. And we pakistanis we are not indian

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kabulistan View Post
                      Pakistan was part of ancient Iranic world. We have -stan in our name to prove this. Just like Kurdistan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, etc.

                      Ancient Punjab was an integral part of Iranic world. The word itself is Persian and S(H)indh(ustan) was also part of ancient Iranic world. Originally Iranic world included Sind and Punjab. India is derived from S(H)indh(ustan)...its unfortunate you Blacks steal our Pakistani history...and claim we arr the same as you jungle people

                      not it wasn't, why is that there is a huge divide between Pashtuns and Punjabis then? The iranic world stops at Pashtuns and Indic world begins at Punjabis

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kabulistan View Post
                        Pakistan was part of ancient Iranic world. We have -stan in our name to prove this. Just like Kurdistan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, etc.

                        Ancient Punjab was an integral part of Iranic world. The word itself is Persian and S(H)indh(ustan) was also part of ancient Iranic world. Originally Iranic world included Sind and Punjab. India is derived from S(H)indh(ustan)...its unfortunate you Blacks steal our Pakistani history...and claim we arr the same as you jungle people
                        **** off Forreigner, what's the point having two accounts?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                          not it wasn't, why is that there is a huge divide between Pashtuns and Punjabis then? The iranic world stops at Pashtuns and Indic world begins at Punjabis
                          There is no Indic world. Indic world is an extensen of Punjab, everything "Indian" comes from punjab.

                          Divide is because of appearnce and customs which differ. But in ancient times punjabis were proud Iranics, and fought against Alexander
                          , Genghus Khan, Arabs, etc. who invaded Iranic lands.
                          Last edited by Kabulistan; 09-19-2016, 06:29 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kabulistan View Post
                            There is no Indic world. Indic world is an extensen of Punjab, everything "Indian" comes from punjab.

                            Divide is because of appearnce and customs which differ. But in ancient times punjabis were proud Iranics, and fought against Alexander
                            , Genghus Khan, Arabs, etc. who invaded Iranic lands.

                            every thing Indian is Punjabi? ok idiot. even Indus civilization was not Punjab, it spread from Eastern Afghanistan to North India. Sindh was the most important area of the civilization, the word India comes out of Sindh not Punjab.

                            Also Indians themselves are much older then Indus any ways

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by khushal View Post
                              Urdu is mostly arabic and farsi. Hindi has a minor role in it.

                              Today most Pakistani elites prefer English and consider the other languages as inferior(the language of uneducated people), so people are ashamed to speak it. This is done by design, to shame people about their culture and history so they can leave it.
                              You never surprise the audience with your ignorance. Urdu is 99 percent indic, it's grammatical structure and sentence composition that constitute a language,not lone words. Urdu also has hindu substitute words for the most persian lone words.in day to day communication people prefer hindi words, however in literature persian words are used , in older literature urdu is called hindustani language.

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