Evolution theory contradicts the Quran and Hadiths

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Asalam alykum wr wb to the muslim brothers,

i guess these guys are believing in stoneage ? hahahahahah which never existed.

I agree the stoneage mnemonic is a Hollywoodified red herring

movig on.

People in former times were much more educated than that of today , they had knowledge in huge ,like Al khidr and other people who also were blessed by Allah.

Al-Khadir was a special servant of Allah(swt) you can't compare him to everyone else; he even had to teach Musa(as) who was a Prophet

Like Suleiman (a.s) and his armies that were faster than the twinker of the eye to carry someone.

According to Qur'an and ahadith, Nabi Suleiman (as) had control of the jinnati and thus has their powers on his side; furthermore even if he had advanced knowledge of Physics, this would not mean that he endorsed the

because Nabi Sulaiman(as) could teleport; but none of your blind ignorant Wahhabi or Deobandi Brainwashers could do any of that. In fact most of them could not feed themselves except by manipulating people.

Like the people in former Egypt who build models of Planes.

Yes and they were also not considered Muslims (although I believe they originally were since Allah(swt) sent messengers to all people). Regardless, there is no indication that even if Ancient people had such knowledge, that they had no concept of evolution. so this proves nothing.

Evoultion is for itself a joke that is in the brains of some stupid retared minds like that of darwin who went crazy.

If that's what Evolution is; then do you explain that Biochemical analysis shows that human DNA is made from Amino Acids, and not Silicates (the compounds that compose clay), which is what we should have discovered if we were actually Literally made from clay.

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Sure buddy, yes I am aware of those verses. It's the reason why I have changed my major from Business Adminitration to Biological sciences. I would like to know what these uncle-tom's are coming from.

Until then please educate us, on Evolution your majesty (am serious, the stage is yours)

Also on how Evolution theory can rise muslims like a Pheonix.

People who deny evolution are probably the closest to Uncle Tom there is; they embrace the ideas of Christian Fanatics who are some of the main pushers of Imperialism to recolonize Muslim lands.


what would you like to know about evolution? ask some specific questions I'll see what I can do.

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Dear Khushal
if you are right than why didnt charles darwin convert to islam,why is steven hawkings so much anti religion if islam teaches evolution theory?

why are mostly non religious people who believe in evolution theory?
Evolution theory is tricky and so is the devil,and i dont believe it was a muslim who was the first to present this theory as some very desperate people here say,it was long before.

Why didn't Hamza the Uncle of Rasul Allah(saw) convert to Islam? Why didn't Waraqah Ibn Nawfal become Muslim when he acknowledged that Sayyidna Muhammad(saw) was a Nabi?

and by tricky what do you mean, do you think the Devil is more powerful than God that he can manipulate Nature to appear differently than the way Allah(swt) established it?

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If you can, please educate us ignorant folks on how Humans evolved, from what and when did this process start?

Then, after giving us a scientific approach explain how this will help the downtrodden state of Muslims.

I am all ears, sittin front row in the center of the lecture hall.

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Complete ownage.

yes complete self ownage you mean; it only demonstrates how little all of you actually know about what you're arguing against.

The theory of evolution doesn't claim that humans evolved from monkeys; but that monkeys , gorillas, chimpanzees and other primates have a common Primate Ancestor.

We dont reject science or maths but we reject being from monkies we believe in that what is already clearfied to us by our Prophet (pbuh) and the prophets (pbut) before him and in the noble Quran :P

Thanks for proving my point with your "Monkeys" comment. If you

Science is changing daily,some 10 years ago People believed that the homo was first sighted 150 000 years ago but new funds date it to 400 000 years ago and newly found remaining date it that the first homo according to them was not in Africa but in Caucasus/Chechnya.

and that's exactly why science provides more reliable information that fanatical dogma; because it's open to new information based on evidence.

Show us one document from 10 years ago that claimed Homosapien sapiens (our species) appeared on Earth 150,000 years ago

Also show us evidence that the first homosapien was in he Caucasus .....and how does this defeat or refute the theory of evolution?

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If you can, please educate us ignorant folks on how Humans evolved, from what and when did this process start?

Then, after giving us a scientific approach explain how this will help the downtrodden state of Muslims.

I am all ears, sittin front row in the center of the lecture hall.

Sure, in Africa where our ancestral primates were situated, the need for sufficient nutritional sources and competing primates and other species urged for those of our ancestral primates who could develop the ability to use and apply tools more effectively and had greater viability in breeding. So the ones who couldn't do this died out, but the ones who could spread their genes and became homo sapien sapiens.

By supporting scientifically based evidentially based ideas we can apply them by developing our own medical and biochemical sciences and facilities which would make us better able to meet the needs of our people and provide for them.

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Professor,

I got some questions.

Who were these primates, were they also from one source? Where does Adam come into all this?

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Professor,

I got some questions.

Who were these primates, were they also from one source? Where does Adam come into all this?

they're still doing research on that by analyzing the phylogenetic tree, but it appears homo sapiens stemmed from homo erectus.

but in regards to "Adam", the evidence suggests that he first modern homo sapien sapiens were a male-female pair. Perhaps that is Adam(as)?

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actually Evolution is a Theory and a Fact; the word Theory doesn't mean "guess" . Theory in science means principles which govern certain phenomenon

for example there's a "theory of electromagnetism" would you deny that electromagnetism exists because the word "theory" is used?

This is how theory is used in respects to evolution. So it's not "Just theory"; it's a reality with TONS of evidence to support it.

Where is your evidence that this evidence is false?

if you mean the glue that holds atoms together to form shapes such as a body? not sure. never thought about that one.
to me, a fact is, the scientists have different shapes of skulls from different eras. theory, assumption, guesswork, whatever you want to call it, is when it is pronounced that this being, who had this particular skull then turned into that being with the different shaped skull.
i am more inclined to believe, without proof, that they are different families of the same tribe, of humanaity.

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they're still doing research on that by analyzing the phylogenetic tree, but it appears homo sapiens stemmed from homo erectus.

but in regards to "Adam", the evidence suggests that he first modern homo sapien sapiens were a male-female pair. Perhaps that is Adam(as)?

Professor,

Well this is where it gets confusing, in the scientific sense of things. According to The holy scriptures, Adam was the first Human (of non Jinn/Angelic form) that god created, then how did Adam envolve from whatever he was to Homo erectus? Wouldn't his family be similar to what he was, since their wasn't any Humans other then his family (Eve, their kids)?

You said they were different species of Homo's roaming around Africa/Asia, where these Adams off spring? Did these species pray to god? Who was Prophet Enoch (as) then? A human like us, or a Homo erectus? Prophet Nuh (as), where does he come to place?

This picture is a depiction of what science says was a Homo Erectus family

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Science says that After the Homo Erectus, came and went then came the Neanderthal. What? How and where did these neantherdals come from? Did god create different sets of humans, or did every set of Adams kids (holy scriptures said that every time Eve gave birth, she gave birthnto pairs 1 Male/1 Female) come out different, and was then spread around.

Science says Neanderthal are from Souther Europe, and here's a depiction of them

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Professor,

Well this is where it gets confusing, in the scientific sense of things. According to The holy scriptures, Adam was the first Human (of non Jinn/Angelic form) that god created, then how did Adam envolve from whatever he was to Homo erectus? Wouldn't his family be similar to what he was, since their wasn't any Humans other then his family (Eve, their kids)?

You said they were different species of Homo's roaming around Africa/Asia, where these Adams off spring? Did these species pray to god? Who was Prophet Enoch (as) then? A human like us, or a Homo erectus? Prophet Nuh (as), where does he come to place?

This picture is a depiction of what science says was a Homo Erectus family

you're talking about descendants NOT ancestors one thing at a time you can't "out smart" someone by not even having your own premise right...

fix that first and then lets debate.

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I'm not debating at all. Your the researcher, and I am the student. Your giving you lectures, and I am doing my HW. I am asking you questions so I can better understand what your class is about.


I am also a very eager student, who is up doing his HW at 2 AM.

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Asalam alykum wr wb,

from your brother with the sharpen khanjar,i honestly advise you to not waste your beautiful and important time with this apostate for he is openly from the az Zalimun , and those who Allah says their eyes are blind and their ears are deaf and their hearts are sealed.

all you're doing is patting yourself on the back for following what some ignorannt cheats have brainwashed you into thinking and attributing it to God.

He follows his own desires and interpretations he does not follow Allah and his Messenger (pbuh).

Nature and evidence from nature isn't a "desire" tht's Reality around us; I want to follow reality, and that's what Allah(swt) and his messenger (saw); your gullible stubborn rejection of reality is not from Islam, but from Mulahs.

He follows a deviant apostate group which was destroyed by Abu Hanifa (rah) and other great scholars so they were splitted and destroyed and remained only in some parts

Imam Abu Hanifa(ra) was a Faqih not a Mutakalam; the fact hat

They do not even understand the quran nor they can read it but they show off and try to explain you while they have no knowledge in Arabic Language,Poetry and Islamic Science.

bahahahhaha a deobandi is saying that others have no knowledge of of Arabic language; when all Deobandis learn from is Urdu books.

I DARE You to challenge me to a debate on Arabic language; I'll make your Urdu babbling Deobandi illiterate tail back to Mullah biljis laman.


care to take the challenge?

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you're talking about descendants NOT ancestors one thing at a time you can't "out smart" someone by not even having your own premise right...

fix that first and then lets debate.

Semantics. I clearly understood that he meant ancestors. Please answer his questions Professor.