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  • Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
    For me if something is proven from quran and sunnah it is enough scientific,i see it as the only truth science rather than these monkies who claim things that are already proven and spoken in quran.

    Evoultion is just an explanation "how it could be",but is not.

    Darwin himself said : there are two things that could "HAVE" happend
    i dont know how familiar you are with the English Language.

    But this is a part from the conditional sentences.



    He said : Either all was created by a far intellectual ( he was reffering to God),or by Evoultion (how he described it) and there is no God.

    So you come up mix these two things together and claim is as the truth that was revealed to you by iblis ibn as shaytan (ar rajeem)

    Darwin's assessment was more than 100 years ago; do you know how far evidence and research has come SINCE then? We now know that the protein sequences of Related Primates and Humans trace back to a common ancestor, something that Darwin did NOT know.

    SOME may credit Darwin with getting the ball rolling, but we've come a long way from Darwin's initial arguments.

    I don't care what you see as Science; because you're not even following the Qur'an's view of science according to what the Qur'an says


    "We will show them Our Signs on the horizon and within themselves until it is clear to them that it is the truth", (Surah Fussilat, 53)

    Even the Qur'an says to look to nature and aspects of nature to see God's signs; and you ignore it, so you're clearly not following the Qur'an.

    The only people who are following Iblis are suicide bombers i.e. Taliban.

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    • Explanation of the Verse 53 from Surah Fussialt :

      ﴿سَنُرِيهِمْ ءَايَـتِنَا فِى الاٌّفَاقِ وَفِى أَنفُسِهِمْ﴾
      (We will show them Our signs in the universe, and within themselves,) meaning, `We will show them Our evidence and proof that the Qur'an is true and has indeed been sent down from Allah to the Messenger of Allah, through external signs,
      ﴿فِى الاٌّفَاقِ﴾
      (in the universe), ' such as conquests and the advent of Islam over various regions and over all other religions. Mujahid, Al-Hasan and As-Suddi said, "And signs within themselves means, the battle of Badr, the conquest of Makkah, and other events which befell them, where Allah granted victory to Muhammad and his Companions, and inflicted a humiliating defeat on falsehood and its followers.'' It may also be that what is meant here is man and his physical composition. As detailed in the science of anatomy, which indicates the wisdom of the Creator -- may He be blessed and exalted -- and the different inclinations and opposite natures that people have, good and bad, etc., and the (divine) decrees to which man is subjected, having no power to change and over which he has no control.
      ﴿حَتَّى يَتَبَيَّنَ لَهُمْ أَنَّهُ الْحَقُّ أَوَلَمْ يَكْفِ بِرَبِّكَ أَنَّهُ عَلَى كُلِّ شَىْءٍ شَهِيدٌ﴾
      (until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Qur'an) is the truth. Is it not sufficient in regard to your Lord that He is a Witness over all things) means, sufficient is Allah as a Witness over the words and deeds of His servants, and He bears witness that Muhammad is telling the truth in what he says, as Allah says:
      ﴿لَّـكِنِ اللَّهُ يَشْهَدُ بِمَآ أَنزَلَ إِلَيْكَ أَنزَلَهُ بِعِلْمِهِ﴾
      (But Allah bears witness to that which He has sent down unto you; He has sent it down with His knowledge) (4:166).
      High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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      • That Pathetic sand Niggér is still at it? Who are you trying to impress, with your uncle-Tom beliefs.

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        • Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
          Explanation of the Verse 53 from Surah Fussialt :


          ﴿فِى الاٌّفَاقِ﴾
          (in the universe), ' such as conquests and the advent of Islam over various regions and over all other religions. Mujahid, Al-Hasan and As-Suddi said, "And signs within themselves means, the battle of Badr, the conquest of Makkah, and other events which befell them, where Allah granted victory to Muhammad and his Companions, and inflicted a humiliating defeat on falsehood and its followers.'' It may also be that what is meant here is man and his physical composition. As detailed in the science of anatomy, which indicates the wisdom of the Creator -- may He be blessed and exalted -- and the different inclinations and opposite natures that people have, good and bad, etc., and the (divine) decrees to which man is subjected, having no power to change and over which he has no control.
          .
          EXACTLY SEE, these are the things known by Natural science....and studying Nature


          this is what Tafsir Al-Jalalayn says


          Tafsir al-Jalalayn
          { سَنُرِيهِمْ آيَاتِنَا فِي ٱلآفَاقِ وَفِيۤ أَنفُسِهِمْ حَتَّىٰ يَتَبَيَّنَ لَهُمْ أَنَّهُ ٱلْحَقُّ أَوَلَمْ يَكْفِ بِرَبِّكَ أَنَّهُ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ شَهِيدٌ }

          We shall show them Our signs in the horizons, [in all] the regions of the heavens and the earth, in the way of the luminous [celestial] bodies, [the varieties of] vegetation and trees, and in their own souls, in the way of the exquisite craftsmanship and unique wisdom [inherent in their creation], until it becomes clear to them that it, namely, the Qur’ān, is the truth, revealed by God, informing of the Resurrection, the Reckoning and the Punishment, so that they [realise that they] will be punished for their disbelief in it and in the one who has come with it. Is it not sufficient that your Lord (bi-rabbika, governs the verb yakfi, ‘sufficient’) is witness to all things? (annahu ‘alā kulli shay’in shahīd, substitutes for bi-rabbika). In other words, is not sufficient proof of your truthfulness that nothing whatsoever can be hidden from God?

          see it is talking about looking to Nature and the signs of Nature.


          which means you're not actually following the Qur'an....see even your own scholars are saying the Qur'an shows us that we're supposed to study Nature to know God's signs and Haq

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          • Originally posted by کیش View Post
            That Pathetic sand Niggér is still at it? Who are you trying to impress, with your uncle-Tom beliefs.


            I thought Islam is against slandering ethnicity?

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            • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
              I thought Islam is against slandering ethnicity?
              I thought Islam was humans came from Adam, and not from a single cell organism.

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              • Originally posted by کیش View Post
                I thought Islam was humans came from Adam, and not from a single cell organism.
                No Islam is about nature .and that's what nature shows us

                where do you get attacking slandering ethnicity from in Islam?

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                • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                  No Islam is about nature .and that's what nature shows us

                  where do you get attacking slandering ethnicity from in Islam?
                  Oh Islam is about nature? That is new to me, is your Prophet, Musaylimah the other self-proclaimed prophet in Arabia around the same time as Muhammad (PBUH)?

                  Islam is about worshipping Allah. The one that Muhammad (PBUH) taught.

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                  • Originally posted by کیش View Post
                    Oh Islam is about nature? That is new to me, is your Prophet, Musaylimah the other self-proclaimed prophet in Arabia around the same time as Muhammad (PBUH)?

                    Islam is about worshipping Allah. The one that Muhammad (PBUH) taught.


                    You know what your problem is? You pay lip service to the Qur'an but you NEVER actually read it

                    “So set your face steadily and truly to that faith- the nature of Allah, in which He has created the mankind. There is no change in the way Allah creates. That is the righteous religion. But most people do not know. (Rum 30/30)

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                    • Originally posted by کیش View Post
                      Oh Islam is about nature? That is new to me, is your Prophet, Musaylimah the other self-proclaimed prophet in Arabia around the same time as Muhammad (PBUH)?

                      Islam is about worshipping Allah. The one that Muhammad (PBUH) taught.
                      Instead worshipping Allah he is worshipping NATURE , which is open shirk.

                      you are from the people that talk much but do less.
                      High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                      • Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                        Instead worshipping Allah he is worshipping NATURE , which is open shirk.

                        you are from the people that talk much but do less.
                        read the above verse from the Qur'an I already proved my point

                        instead of worshipping Allah(swt) you worship Jahalah of your Nafs, one of the greatest shirk

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                        • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                          once again, your belief, dear.
                          i was just reading about the islamic incorporation of pre islamic sciences. interesting. apparently greek ideas were studied in alexandria, pre islam. indian, persian and greek influences incorporated, scimitar.

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                          • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                            because it isn't a belief faye; it's something observed in science.
                            faith. scientists have the skulls. they then assume that this changed to that. it is assumption, belief, faith, not an 'observation'. did the qu'ran say that allah created everything all at once ? is it not possible that new designs of beings were created and put into reality by the creator, at different times and can still be done?

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                            • Originally posted by faye View Post
                              once again, your belief, dear.
                              i was just reading about the islamic incorporation of pre islamic sciences. interesting. apparently greek ideas were studied in alexandria, pre islam. indian, persian and greek influences incorporated, scimitar.

                              hahha you keep repeating that as a mantra when you have no credible refutation

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                              • Originally posted by faye View Post
                                faith. scientists have the skulls. they then assume that this changed to that. it is assumption, belief, faith, not an 'observation'. did the qu'ran say that allah created everything all at once ? is it not possible that new designs of beings were created and put into reality by the creator, at different times and can still be done?

                                so why are there exact examples of observable evolution where the actual chemical loccii of genes are changed from their original positions? faith as well? lol

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