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  • #46
    Originally posted by DaZahroJaam View Post
    thank you ma'am.
    i don't understand people's obsession with getting every one to agree with them. when you are given the responsibility of a moderator, fairness and understanding is the least bit in the list of expectations from you..

    BUT, NO ONE IS PERFECT.
    exactly!

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    • #47
      You yourself do not understand the topic. i will try to break this topic down. First only significance these heavenly bodies have are three - To adorn the heavens, to punish the devils and as a form of direction.

      Now the different forms of understandings related to stars:

      1 - Astrology is the influence of stars.
      2 - Astronomy is the study of positions and movements of stars.

      Astrology is ignorance. And it has absolutely no significance or correlation with our lives. There is no proof for this whatsoever. Only an irrational person would believe they affect his life.

      * If you believe stars and other heavenly bodies have an affect in your life. Influence events such as good and evil. And create the upcoming affairs. This is pure shirk and the person who believes such is a mushrik. Only Allah is the creator and controller of events. Allah created these heavenly bodies.

      * If you believe this provides you with knowledge of the unseen. This is also shirk and a person is a mushrik. Only Allah has the knowledge of the unseen.

      * if you believe that whatever had taken place is because of the stars. I.e. good and bad things happened (in the past) and attribute it to the stars. This is still shirk.

      Astrology is just sheer ignorance. And as the brother said. It is just a fictional entertainment. Only irrational stupid people get involved in these useless things. There is no substance behind them. Just fairy tales.

      Astronomy on the other hand has some knowledge. It can be used for direction for prayer. Direction for travel. Allah says about stars in surah alNahl "And landmarks and by the stars, they (mankind) guide themselves"
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      • #48
        If you had fully read my posts above then at least you would have understood that I know the difference between Astronomy and Astrology and You would have also understood that

        * I dont believe stars and other heavenly bodies have such an effect that it totally determines your life. If you think that having an effect from any other thing other than God on human life is shirk then believing in effect of food, sun shine, climate, temprature, smell, colours, and other natural phenomena is also SHIRK .There is always influence of one thing or another even of a family, educational institution, peer groups, cultural stratification, society, community, politics, economy etc all have effects on human life, events good and evil. then all of us are Mushriks.

        * I dont believe that stars provide you with knowledge of the unseen. I have explained above the unseen thing that unseen may be rain, child sex, death and life here after but we humans can foresee many unseen things and for existence its not necessary that you see some thing , you can see unseen things by knowledge and information and predicting things by various scientific tools.

        * I dont believe that whatever had taken place is because of the stars. Stars is not the only phenomenon in nature . There are many other things which influence our lives and because of various natural factors things take place. God is no doubt behind every event talking religiously.

        The main issue here is confusing astrology a fun with something serious like worship. For God sake let the people enjoy and dont issue your fatwas on each and every thing of life. Astrology and stars have nothing to do with beliefs or religion. And shirk is not some thing that trivial.

        But this is the main problem of extremists that they consider trivial and innocent acts as Shirk or infidelity and then if they have power like Taliban they hang people even for verY tiny things because for them its a shirk, the worst sin.
        Last edited by Badlun; 06-04-2010, 05:09 PM.

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        • #49
          I am Sagittarius (no i dont believe in Astrology)

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Afghanlady
            Spoghmai, how much of this is true?
            Traditional
            Libra Traits


            Diplomatic and urbane
            Romantic and charming
            Easygoing and sociable
            Idealistic and peaceable


            On the dark side....
            Indecisive and changeable
            Gullible and easily influenced
            Flirtatious and self-indulgent

            if you are asking how much of the above mentioned traits are true i would say majority of librans i know possess all the above...

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            • #51
              wht abt my star?
              i m cancerian
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              • #52
                Astrology is Shirk and it is un-Islamic and who-ever believes in astrology has committed Shirk which is the worse sin.

                Who ever promotes or supports shirk is associate of the devil and he is a clear enemy if allah and his religion.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by osho View Post
                  The main issue here is confusing astrology a fun with something serious like worship. For God sake let the people enjoy and dont issue your fatwas on each and every thing of life. Astrology and stars have nothing to do with beliefs or religion. And shirk is not some thing that trivial.

                  But this is the main problem of extremists that they consider trivial and innocent acts as Shirk or infidelity and then if they have power like Taliban they hang people even for verY tiny things because for them its a shirk, the worst sin.
                  Hahah
                  Astrology is intrinsically Shirk, even if you don't believe in it, that's the entire point of opposition. You chose the most preposterous sin to have "fun" with, while there are other ways of fun which are totally halaal and don't involve anything sinful, why not choose those ways?

                  We are extreme in opposing people like you because we choose halaal and logical means of amusement, while you choose the worst crimes to be entertained with and than spread it to other people

                  Your kind of people are a pandemic to the world, and we need to take extreme measures to contain it

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                  • #54
                    SHIRK is fun. HAhah very funny.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Son of Mountains View Post
                      wht abt my star?
                      i m cancerian
                      Cancer! About your sign...
                      The Cancerian character is the least clear-cut of all those associated with the signs of the zodiac. It can range from the timid, dull, shy and withdrawn to the most brilliant, and famous Cancerians are to be found through the whole range of human activity. It is a fundamentally conservative and home-loving nature, appreciating the nest like quality of a secure base to which the male can retire when he needs a respite from the stresses of life, and in which the Cancerian woman can exercise her strong maternal instincts. The latter tends to like and to have a large family. `Nest like' is an appropriate adjective for the Cancerian home, for its inhabitants tend to favor the dark, mysterious but comfortable type of house which has something of the air of a den about it, a place which belongs to the family rather than existing as a showcase to impress visitors.
                      That is not to say that the Cancerian is unsociable, just that for them there is a time to socialize and a time to be solitary, and this is part of the apparent contradiction in their nature. Outwardly they can appear formidable - thick-skinned, unemotional, uncompromising, obstinately tenacious, purposeful, energetic, shrewd, intuitive and wise, sometimes with a philosophical profundity of thought verging on inspiration. Their intimates, however, may see a very different character, one with a sympathetic and kindly sensitivity to other people, especially those they love. They are able to identify with the situations of others because of the keenness of their imaginations. They are often over-imaginative and prone to fantasy, sometimes trying to shape their lives to fit some romantic ideal. They are appreciative of art and literature, and especially of drama, where the spectacle and ebb and flow of action and feeling particularly excite them. They may themselves possess considerable literary, artistic or oratorical talent. Their sharp ears and talent for mimicry can sometimes give them success on the stage, though their tendency to be emotional may make them overact. Interestingly - because they give the impression of being down-to-earth - they are often fascinated by the occult and are more open to psychic influence than the average. If they can reconcile the personal conflict of their urge to be outgoing with the reserve that causes them to withdraw into themselves, then at best they can inspire a generation, especially the youthful part of it, by their idealism. A job in which they can express this, and in which they can do well, would be as a leader in a youth organization.

                      In their personal relationships they are mentally a mixture of toughness and softness, often emotional and romantic to the point of sentimentality in their fantasies; but in real life and in marriage, their loving is not so sentimental but tenaciously loyal. Even if they have affairs (and they may do so, for the male in particular is open to sensual stimulation), their first loyalty remains to spouse and family, of whom they regard themselves as the protector. Both the

                      Cancerian man and woman love unreservedly, giving much and asking little in return - in fact, one of the most important lessons they have to learn is how to receive gracefully. They are too easily influenced by those they love and admire, and swayed by the emotion of the moment. They are also loyal friends, the negative side of their faithfulness being clannishness, the narrow patriotism of "my country right or wrong"; and closing ranks in suspicion and coldness toward outsiders.

                      Cancerians have a retentive memory, particularly for emotionally laden events which they can recall in detail for years afterwards. they are strongly governed by childhood memories and since they live intensely in the past in memory and in the future in imagination, a chance meeting with someone for whom they had an unrequited love, even if they thought they had conquered the feeling, will easily rouse the emotion all over again.

                      The Cancerian has many potential faults. They can be untidy, sulky, devious, moody, inclined to self-pity because of an inferiority complex, brood on insults (very often imagined), yet are easily flattered. They can be tactless and difficult yet, because they are normally ambitious, they will curry favor by floating with majority opinions, outlooks and fashions of the day. As a result they often change their opinions and loyalties and, indeed, their occupations, and lack stability. They are easily corrupted and, because they are convincing romanticizers, can make successful confidence tricksters. Their romanticism in another sense make them ardent supporters of causes, for example a football team with whose heroes they can identify in a world of fantasy.

                      Their abilities fit the Cancerian for a wide range of occupations. As they are interested in what people are thinking and able to judge what they can safely be told, they can be good journalists, writers or politicians, though in this last capacity they are more likely to remain in the background rather than attain prominent positions of power. They may, indeed, change their party affiliations. They can serve in other departments of public affairs, especially those which involve looking after others, for example in any kind of service from welfare and nursing to catering - their own love of comfort and good living makes the Cancerian an excellent chef or housekeeper. They sometimes have a penchant for trade or business and are often successful as a captain of industry. This is because they are excellent organizers with a good sense of value and economy which they may combine with a flair for inventiveness and originality. The romantic side of their natures make them enjoy grubbing about in places where exciting discoveries may be made (old stamp collections in attics, etc.), and if they can do this professionally as a secondhand dealer or specialist in antiques, they will be happy. More common occupations which suit some subjects of Cancer are real estate broker, gardener and sailor.

                      Physically they are average to below average in height, with a fleshy body and short legs in comparison with the rest of them. Their hair is usually brown, their faces round, their complexions pale, their foreheads prominent, their eyes small and blue or gray in color, their noses short, perhaps upturned, and their mouths full. They sometimes walk clumsily.

                      Possible Health Concerns...
                      Cancer governs the chest, breasts, elbows, stomach and digestion, womb and female reproductive organs. Cancer, which can affect any part of the body, is sometimes said to have taken its name from this sign, which can therefore afflict its subjects with imperfections anywhere. This is incorrect, however, the derivation of cancer being the Latin cancer meaning gangrene as well as crab. nevertheless, Cancerians are said to be liable to breast cancer and to suffer from pleurisy, dropsy, piles and varicose veins. The excitability mentioned above can lead to weak digestion, gastritis and other stomach ills, and there is a tendency to coughs and weakness of vision.



                      LIKES
                      Hobbies
                      Romance
                      Children
                      Home and Country
                      Parties
                      DISLIKES
                      Aggravating situations
                      Failure
                      Opposition
                      Being told what to do
                      Advice (good or bad)





                      PROBLEMS THAT MAY ARISE FOR YOU, AND THEIR SOLUTIONS




                      As with all sun signs, we all have unique traits to our personalities. When these traits are suppressed, or unrealized, problems will arise. However, with astrology we can examine the problem and assess the proper solution based on the sun sign characteristics. As a Cancerian you may see things below that really strike home. Try the solution, you most likely will be amazed at the results. If you find yourself on the receiving end of the negatives below, it is because you are failing to express the positive.

                      PROBLEM: You can be oversensitive and something of a clinging vine which may cause you to harbor imaginary hurts and slights, this can make for highly unsettling conditions with your spouse.
                      SOLUTION: Be sure that the love you are expressing is not simply your need to hang own to someone for moral support, and if necessary, you should seek professional help in order to overcome this negative, clinging aspect of your personality.


                      PROBLEM: One of your biggest personality flaws, next to neediness, is the habit of being so self absorbed that you sometimes fail to notice what others are doing and accomplishing in their lives, you feel shut out and jealous if a family member has more success than you do.
                      SOLUTION: You should make a special effort to change this in yourself by forcing yourself to rejoice over their good fortune and when you do this you find that it will eventually become a habit and you as well as they will be happier for the change.


                      PROBLEM: Your inability to take orders without getting angry or upset may be another one of your problems and this one could be very serious as it affects your chances of earning a good living for yourself and/or your family, since you are quite apt to walk away from any job where you feel 'picked on'.
                      SOLUTION: Try keeping an ear out and find out how the ones who have been on the job for any length of time gets along with the boss and coworkers. If you follow his lead or simply decide that you will simply keep quiet and follow orders you will soon see how well you can be really liked by all concerned.


                      PROBLEM: You also have a problem with putting things off until the last minute which upsets your family and friends. This also has a tendency to make an unpleasant matter even more unpleasant when you procrastinate.
                      Solution: Make taking care of the business at hand your prime objective from now on for, when you do not have all those worries in the back of your mind you will find it more pleasant to be around people, and you will also find that life goes smoothly for you from then on.



                      Your ruling planet is the MOON
                      .


                      MOON:
                      Mean Radius (km) 1,738
                      Distance from Earth (km) 384,400
                      Period of Rotation (days) 27.3217





                      Some more interesting facts about your sign:



                      The crab is a nocturnal water creature that is well equipped with its massive claws to defend itself and survives very well in the 'wilds' of the underwater world in which it thrives. They have also been prized for food throughout the ages. Crabs come in a variety of 'styles' and species and are found in most of the oceans of the world, as well as in many inland waters. Being a sea scavenger, the crabs help mankind by keeping our waters cleaner.


                      The color for Cancer is all the shining colors of the moon SILVER

                      Your starstone is the beautiful, translucent, PEARL. The Pearl can be all the silvery colors of the moon and not just white. The pearl takes on its silvery, shimmering, colors from the color of the linings of the mollusc (oyster) in which it is grown. A beautiful, perfect pearl can sell for as much as $250,000.00, so speaking of a 'pearl of great price' becomes readily understandable. This precious stone can be harmed if subjected to hair spray, acids, perspiration, and some types of cosmetics.

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                      • #56
                        Astrology is not real. But it does say a lot of someone's personality. That is something that i have noticed. Especially with my own sign.

                        Osho can you post mine: Sagittarius, manana

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by handsomepashtun
                          How exactly is this even true? Isn't it all assumptions?
                          astrology was refuted 3000 years ago when the question was posed to an astrologer:" howcome two identical twins have totally different character and fate in life?" The question is still unanswered by astrologers.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by DaZahroJaam
                            I BE THE GeMINI.
                            Gemini! About Your Sign...

                            Gemini, the sign of the Twins, is dual-natured, elusive, complex and contradictory. On the one hand it produces the virtue of versatility, and on the other the vices of two-facedness and flightiness. The sign is linked with Mercury, the planet of childhood and youth, and its subjects tend to have the graces and faults of the young. When they are good, they are very attractive; when they are bad they are more the worse for being the charmers they are. Like children they are lively, and happy, if circumstances are right for them, or egocentric, imaginative and restless. They take up new activities enthusiastically but lack application, constantly needing new interests, flitting from project to project as apparently purposelessly as a butterfly dancing from flower to flower. To them life is a game which must always be full of fresh moves and continuous entertainment, free of labor and routine. Changing horses in the middle of the stream is another small quirk in the Gemini personality which makes decision making, and sticking to a decision, particularly hard for them.

                            Since they lack the quality of conscientiousness, they are apt to fight a losing battle in any attempts they make to be moral (in the widest sense of the word). Their good qualities are attractive and come easily to them. They are affectionate, courteous, kind, generous, and thoughtful towards the poor and suffering - provided none of the activities resulting from expressing these traits interferes too greatly with their own lives and comforts. They quickly learn to use their outward attractiveness to gain their own ends, and when striving for these they will use any weapon in their armory - unscrupulous lying, and cunning evasiveness; escaping blame by contriving to put it on other people, wrapped up in all the charm they can turn on. In their better moments they may strive to be honest and straightforward, but self-interest is almost always the victor. If things go against them, they sulk like children.

                            Also like children, they demand attention, admiration, and the spending on them of time, energy and money, throwing tantrums if they don't get what they want. They reflect every change in their surroundings, like chameleons, and can become pessimistic, sullen, peevish and materialistically self-centered if circumstances force them to struggle in any way. If the conditions of life become really adverse, their strength of will may desert them entirely. They can become uncertain of themselves, either withdrawn, or nervously excitable worriers, sullenly discontented, hard and irritable, with "Self" looming ever larger in their struggles. On the other hand their versatility can make them very adaptable, adjusting themselves to control the world around them by means of their inherent ingenuity and cleverness.

                            Most Gemini have a keen, intuitive, sometimes brilliant intelligence and they love cerebral challenges. But their concentration, though intense for a while, does not last. Their mental agility and energy give them a voracious appetite for knowledge from youth onward, though they dislike the labor of learning. They easily grasp almost everything requiring intelligence and mental dexterity, and are often able to marry manual skills to their qualities of mind. Their intellect is strongly analytical and sometimes gives them so great an ability to see both sides of a question that they vacillate and find it hard to make decisions. But their intelligence may very well be used to control and unify the duality of their natures into a most efficient unit. If faced with difficulties, they have little determination to worry at a problem until they find a solution - they will pick the brains of others. In their intellectual pursuits, as in other departments of their lives, they risk becoming dilettantes, losing themselves in too many projects which they follow until they become difficult.

                            In love they are fickle, not intentionally so but because of the basic inconsistency of their emotional nature, which has an amoral aspect to it. Their is a side to Geminians which can become deeply involved emotionally, and another, hostile to sentimentality, which stands back from a romantic situation, laughing at it and the protagonists in it, including themselves while analyzing it intellectually. Gemini subjects take nothing seriously. So, in love, in spite of their temporary depth of feeling, for the intensity of involvement lasts only while it is new, they are superficial, light-hearted, cool, flirtatious and unimaginative in the understanding of the pain they may give others. They like intrigue, the excitement of the chase, but once they have caught the prey, they lose interest and look around for the next creature to pursue. In less serious situations they make witty, entertaining companions, good acquaintances rather than friends. Even at their worst they are never dull - there is usually playfulness below the surface, and they can be brilliant conversationalists - but they can also be quarrelsome, prattlers, boasters, liars and cheats.

                            Geminians can be successful in many walks of life though their general characteristics tend to make them unreliable. They are often skilled manipulators of language, in speech and writing, and may be: debaters, diplomats (though in politics they are more interested in theory than practice), orators, preachers (brilliant rather than profound), teachers, authors, poets, journalists, or lawyers. In business any work which combines quick-wittedness with a change of surroundings suits them; working as a traveling salesperson, brokerage work, or dealing with the public in any capacity is right up their alley. Because they are dispassionate, logical, rational and analytical they make good scientists, especially in the fields of medicine and astronomy. They can also make excellent members of the Armed Forces, for they take danger no more seriously than anything else and can earn themselves a reputation for devotion to duty and heroic acts. In the arts they may excel in music, painting and sculpture. They make good psychic researchers of a sceptical kind. Negatively they can degenerate into confidence tricksters, thieves and even adepts in the black arts.

                            Possible Health Concerns...
                            Gemini rules the arms, shoulders, hands, lungs and nervous system and its subjects need to beware of diseases and accidents associated with the upper part of the body, as well as nervous and pulmonary disorders such as catarrh and bronchitis. Their mercurial nature may also affect a constitution which is not strong if it is put under strain.

                            You are prone to taking unnecessary risks and wind up harming yourself or others in the process. Sometimes pursuing pleasure too vigorously could also qualify as risk taking.



                            LIKES
                            Talking
                            Novelty and the unusual
                            Variety in life
                            Multiple projects all going at once
                            Reading
                            DISLIKES
                            Feeling tied down
                            Learning, such as school
                            Being in a rut
                            Mental inaction
                            Being alone





                            PROBLEMS THAT MAY ARISE FOR YOU, AND THEIR SOLUTIONS



                            As with all sun signs, we all have unique traits to our personalities. When these traits are suppressed, or unrealized, problems will arise. However, with astrology we can examine the problem and assess the proper solution based on the sun sign characteristics. As a Gemini you may see things below that really strike home. Try the solution, you most likely will be amazed at the results. If you find yourself on the receiving end of the negatives below, it is because you are failing to express the positive.

                            PROBLEM: Being superficial could be a big problem for you in your overall relationships with others and also in getting ahead on many jobs where you must endeavor to dig deep and learn something thoroughly. This is the worst Gemini trait of all.
                            SOLUTION: To make a conscious effort to control this trait is the best approach to take to this problem. If you make a commitment to something or someone you should mentally force yourself to keep that commitment where possible. This will be hard but it can, and has been, accomplished by many under this sign.

                            PROBLEM: Not one who cares for peace and quiet, you create your own problems with loved ones by picking arguments or tale carrying from one to the other then stand back and enjoy the show.
                            SOLUTION: While this may relieve your boredom, it is something that you should not let happen as it could easily go out of control and cost you the love and companionship that you desire. When you feel like doing this it would be better to take a long walk and let the feelings pass.

                            PROBLEM: Boredom is one of your biggest problems and you could easily fall into mischief if you do not find ways to alleviate it.
                            SOLUTION: You have a great many creative talents and if you put these to work for you in some sort of hobby or project you will find you do not have time to be bored, also, other physical activities should be considered: workouts at the gym, racketball, hiking, etc..

                            PROBLEM: You could have health problems brought on by overindulgence of food, drink, or the night life which only gets worse as you age.
                            SOLUTION: Tame your urges and save the party times for weekends only and then try not to overdo it. By keeping everything down to a mild roar you may not have to fight off diseases such as obesity or cirrhosis of the liver.

                            PROBLEM: You may have the problem of not being able to keep a spouse or a lover due to your pursuit of the opposite sex.
                            SOLUTION: Cultivate the habit of not flirting with every attractive person you see and make up your mind to be a true and loving spouse, or don't commit until you are really ready to do this.



                            Your ruling planet is Mercury
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                            Mean distance from the Sun (AU) 0.387
                            Sidereal period of orbit (years) 0.24
                            Equatorial radius (km) 2,439
                            Polar radius (km) 2,439
                            Body rotation period (hours) 1,408
                            Tilt of equator to orbit (degrees) 0
                            Number of observed satellites 0





                            Some more interesting facts about your sign:



                            While no animal appears to be associated with your sign other than the wolf in which is seen to be the nurturing force for another set of 'twins', romulas and remus. The twins themselves are their own sign representatives.


                            The color of choice for Mercury in Gemini is GREEN
                            Your starstone is the moss agate. It has been shown to be beneficial to the health of Geminis who aresuffering from circulatory problems and has been shown as an aid to getting your intuitive feelings tuned to a higher pitch. It is also an aid to relieving depression. There is another gemstone which is used for Gemini and that is the emerald, but the moss agate vibrates to the levels of your ruling planet, Mercury, and therefore is much more beneficial for you.



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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Laila View Post
                              Astrology is not real. But it does say a lot of someone's personality. That is something that i have noticed. Especially with my own sign.

                              Osho can you post mine: Sagittarius, manana
                              Sagittarius About Your Sign...

                              Sagittarians have a positive outlook on life, are full of enterprise, energy, versatility, adventurousness and eagerness to extend experience beyond the physically familiar. They enjoy travelling and exploration, the more so because their minds are constantly open to new dimensions of thought. They are basically ambitious and optimistic, and continue to be so even when their hopes are dashed. Their strongly idealistic natures can also suffer many disappointments without being affected. They are honorable, honest, trustworthy, truthful, generous and sincere, with a passion for justice. They are usually on the side of the underdog in society they will fight for any cause they believe to be just, and are prepared to be rebellious. They balance loyalty with independence.

                              Sagittarians are usually modest and are often religious, with a strong sense of morality, though they tend to overemphasize the ethical codes they follow and worship beliefs about God rather than God Himself. This means that, negatively, they regard rigid, unloving, intolerant adherence to ritual and conventional codes as more important than the truths they symbolize or embody. They sometimes pay lip service to religions and political parties in which they have ceased to believe because the outward forms satisfy them, yet they may not hesitate to switch allegiance in politics or change their system of belief if they see personal advantage to themselves in doing so.

                              They have both profound and widely ranging minds, equipped with foresight and good judgement, and they can be witty conversationalists. They love to initiate new projects (they make excellent researchers) and have an urge to understand conceptions that are new to them. they think rapidly, are intuitive and often original, but are better at adapting than inventing and are at their best when working with colleagues of other types of character that compliment their own. They are strong-willed and good at organizing, a combination that gives them the ability to bring any project they undertake to a successful conclusion. Their generosity can be balanced by their extreme care at handling their resources.

                              Sagittarians are ardent, sincere and straightforward in love, normally conventional and in control of their sexual natures. Yet if thwarted, they may easily allow their failure to embitter their whole lives or they may revenge themselves upon the opposite sex by becoming cynically promiscuous. They are more apt then the average to make an uncongenial alliance.

                              If their marriages are successful, they will be faithful spouses and indulgent parents; but their innate restlessness will inspire them to use even the most satisfying ménage as a base from which to set out on their travels. They need to fell free and are often faced with the choice of allowing their careers to take over their lives at the expense of the love of their spouse and family. Sagittarian women are the counterparts of their men; even if they have no career to rival their love, they find it difficult to express affection and may run the risk of being thought frigid.

                              In other personal relationships they are reliable, seldom betraying any trust given to them. They can, however, be impulsively angry and both male and female Sagittarians know how to be outspoken and exactly what expressions will hurt their adversaries most. On the other hand they are magnanimous in forgiving offenses and are responsible when looking after the elderly in the family.

                              Their gifts fit Sagittarians for a number of widely differing professions. They are natural teachers and philosophers with a talent for expounding the moral principles and laws which seem to explain the universe. This gift enables them to be successful churchmen on the one hand and scientists on the other. The law and politics also suit them, as does public service, social administration, public relations and advertising. Travel and exploration naturally appeal to such restless souls and, if their opportunities are limited, they may find something of travel and change of scene in the armed forces or through working as a travelling salesman. Others may make fine musicians and, in the days before automobiles, they were said to be successful at horse trading and all activities, including sporting ones, concerning horses. This has been translated in modern terms into an interest in cars and aircraft - and again with emphasis on the sporting side racing, rallying etc. They are said to make good sports coaches, but their tastes in this direction may lead them into imprudent gambling, though the gambling instinct may be sublimated by carrying it out professionally as a bookmaker.

                              The vices to which Sagittarians are prone are anger they tend to flare up over trifles; impatience - they want to rush every new project through immediately and demand too much of colleagues who cannot work at the pace they require; and scorn of the inadequacies of others while expecting fulsome recognition of their own efforts. They may in one sense deserve recognition, because in completing a major project they will sacrifice their health and family relationships; in their family's eyes they may merit condemnation.

                              They can be exacting, domineering and inconsiderate in the work place; and boastful, vulgar and extravagant in their private lives. Their restlessness, if excessive, can jeopardize more than their own stability. some Sagittarians risk becoming playboys, wasting their lives away in frivolous pursuits. Others can develop a moralizing, religious fanaticism or else turn into hypocrites, their inner prudishness disguised by an outward appearance of joviality. Another side of the religiosity which is a danger in Sagittarians is superstition.

                              Possible Health Concerns...
                              Sagittarius governs the hips, thighs and sacral area; subjects suffer from ailments of the hips and thighs and are liable to sciatica and rheumatism. An alleged deficiency of silicon in their physiques can give them poor skin, nails and hair.

                              As they are often sportsmen indulging in dangerous pursuits, they are prone to accidents which arise from these. The ancient astrologers mention falls from horses and hurts from them and other four-footed beasts. The taking of risks in other sports is a danger to the modern Sagittarian, and he is also liable to accidents with fire and heat.



                              LIKES
                              Traveling
                              getting to the heart of the matter
                              Freedom
                              Laws and meanings
                              the general 'feel' of things
                              DISLIKES
                              Off the wall theories
                              being tied down domestically
                              Being constrained
                              cooling your heels
                              bothered with details





                              PROBLEMS THAT MAY ARISE FOR YOU, AND THEIR SOLUTIONS



                              As with all sun signs, we all have unique traits to our personalities. When these traits are suppressed, or unrealized, problems will arise. However, with astrology we can examine the problem and assess the proper solution based on the sun sign characteristics. As a Sagittarius you may see things below that really strike home. Try the solution, you most likely will be amazed at the results. If you find yourself on the receiving end of the negatives below, it is because you are failing to express the positive.

                              PROBLEM: Others have no time for you as you are apt to have too many irons in the fire at any given time.
                              SOLUTION: Be sure that you have a 'product' to match all the 'advertising' you do. Is it fact or is it fiction?

                              PROBLEM: Others cease to confide in you or to take you seriously.
                              SOLUTION: Try not to exaggerate or be contentious with others as this could be embarrassing if they feel you are not trustworthy.

                              PROBLEM: Feeling lost and disillusioned.
                              SOLUTION: Focus upon one thing that will satisfy you and work toward that point.

                              PROBLEM: You seem anchored in one spot, unable to move forward.
                              SOLUTION: You should try to think more positive thoughts and set some short term goals that you can reach, then set more. In this way you will move ahead in your endeavors.



                              Your ruling planet is JUPITER
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                              Mean distance from the Sun (AU) 5.202
                              Sidereal period of orbit (years) 11.86
                              Equatorial radius (km) 71,492
                              Polar radius (km) 66,854
                              Body rotation period (hours) 9.92
                              Tilt of equator to orbit (degrees) 3.08
                              Number of observed satellites 16





                              Some more interesting facts about your sign:



                              The animal associated with you sign is the centaur.
                              The Greek love for the horse led to the ennoblement of the centaur in myth and legend. The Centaur Chiron was known for his wisdom and healing abilities. Nessus was killed by Hercules for trying to rape a woman under his charge, and other centaurs were renowned for their weakness for drink. The centaur symbolizes mankinds dual nature as an intellectual creature (the human half) which was also a physical animal (the horse half).



                              The color of choice for Sagittarius is RICH PURPLE





                              Your Starstone is the TOPAZ
                              Topaz, the gem comes in many different colors and is a member of the quartz group. It aids in bringing forth your leadership qualities and enables you to grasp control of any situation you confront in life. Topaz makes you feel more in control of yourself or the situations you encounter and helps you deal with them in a competent fashion. It helps you take the lead and handle things in a competent fashion. Tradition has it that Topaz helped foretell the future, enhance sexual energy, and promote harmony.

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                              • #60
                                Hey osho. Not fare. What about pisceas i was the second one to disclose my star sign here.

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