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    He was also a supreme integrator, bringing together the East and the West, spirituality and materialism, science and spirituality, the old and the new, in an over-arching vision of giving rise to the new man, a new humanity.

    In Osho's own words: "I have been using one expression and that is 'Zorba the Buddha'. The body has to be enjoyed as much as your soul. Matter has its own beauty, its own power just as consciousness has its own world, its own silence, its own peace, its own ecstasy. And between the two is the area of the mind—something of matter and something of the spirit. The poet is just in the middle, between the materialist and the spiritualist; his poetry touches both extremes. I would like all three points—the two extremes and the middle—to become one unity.

    "At the root, mind is consciousness. If you stop making dual divisions choosing this against that, liking this, disliking that, if you drop out of these divisions, the mind again becomes a mirror, a pure consciousness." This concept of universal acceptance is attractive to the New Ager, who no longer has to make the worrisome choice between the jacuzzi and the meditation mat.

    So how will posterity judge such a man? Perhaps there is not one Osho but many. Each sees the Osho of his reflection. Some see a sage, others not. And who can say that those who see the sage are not better off? There is much that is good and great in Osho. Why not make the best of him and ignore what isn't? As he said: "Just look for the beautiful; forget the ugly."

    In any case, Osho appears to be enjoying resurgence. Says Ma Amrit Sadhana: "His popularity has expanded worldwide since his death. More of his books are sold and there are more publishers like Penguin and Full Circle that publish his works."

    She attributes his increasing popularity to his contemporary approach. "Others tried to carry past ideas and belief systems to this century. Osho says there is a divide between the past and present because of the dawn of the technological age. He was all for the new man. He didn't favour renunciation that is so much a part of the traditional approach. He believed that poverty was not spiritual. If you were rich within yourself you were rich in everything."

    The publicity department of the Commune says that in 1996, 2.5 million Osho books and tapes were sold worldwide.

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    • #17
      Osho promoted prostitution, exploitation,degradation and hatred of women and children and abuse

      this isn't someone who can contribute anything worth following

      Nabi(saw) provided all the right things 14 centuries before; anything Osho may have said that was good, was just copying Islam and Muhammad(saw), he just used it for his own perverted and materialistic desires.

      How can a person be a mystic and spiritualist but absorbed into materialism? They are contradictions.

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      • #18
        osho was gay. gulab is not a gay-sympathizer.

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        • #19
          Osho on women

          I quoted above that Osho was against prostitution.

          Now see here what Osho says about women

          Why always go on putting dividing lines between man and woman? The truth is that every man carries a woman within him, and every woman carries a man within her. And it is bound to be so, because whether you are man or woman, you are created by one man, one woman. They have contributed to you half and half.


          Question: Are Women more courageous than Men?
          Osho : They certainly are. These are men just feeling jealous... nothing courageous. The woman is more loving because she does not live by logic, by reason, but by pure emotion and heart. The way of the heart is beautiful but dangerous. The way of the mind is ordinary but safe. The man has chosen the safest and the most shortcut way of life. The woman has chosen the most beautiful, but the most mountainous, dangerous path of emotions, sentiments, moods. And because up to now the world has been ruled by man, woman has suffered immensely.

          And not knowing that condemning women, repressing women is making them inferior, half of humanity is deprived of raising its consciousness. And you are deprived, because you could also have learned the art of moving upwards from half of the universe. You could also have moved on the same way, on the same path; hence I always say, the liberation of women is also the liberation of man. It is more the liberation of man than the liberation of women.

          To be motherly is a totally different phenomenon. It is something absolutely human; it transcends animality. It has nothing to do with biology. It is love, pure love, unconditional love. When a mother loves unconditionally -- and only a mother can love unconditionally -- the child learns the joy of unconditional love.

          Osho on Female Creativity, Female Creative Spirit, Creative female Expression

          Women live longer than men, almost five years more; that’s why you see so many widows in the world. And women are more resistant to illness, disease. Women are more tolerant, more accepting. From where comes this strength? — it comes from their receptivity

          Women are more patient, more tolerant than men. Men are very impatient and very intolerant. Women are less violent than men. Women don’t commit murders; it is the man who commits murders, who wages crusades, who is always getting ready for war, who invents all kinds of deadly weapons — atomic bombs, nuclear weapons. The woman is completely out of this whole game of death.

          We will have a more beautiful world if all women — and women are half of the world — are allowed to grow their talents, their genius. It is not a question at all… nobody is higher, nobody is lower. Women are women, men are men; they have differences, but differences don’t make anybody higher or lower. Their differences create their attraction.
          Osho Quotes on Women

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          • #20
            OSHO: Marriage and Children - YouTube

            Here Osho promotes fornication and says marriage is against freedom

            Osho was just a hypocrite; he only said some things to avoid critics

            but really he was promoting corruption

            Win McCormack <i>The Rajneesh Chronicles</i> - Print
            Through hypnosis and the abuse of Eastern meditation practices, the Bhagwan was able to exercise authoritarian mind control over his disciples, turning spiritual seekers into helpless minions. Police later learned that in order to feed Rajneesh’s appetite for money and power, his followers were forced to surrender all their material wealth to him and engage in drug smuggling and prostitution. According to McCormack, Rajneesh was entertained by his ability to manipulate others, once saying, “This is my circus and I enjoy it.”

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            • #21
              Osho on Marriage

              Osho thoughts on marriage are really revolutionary. One may not agree with that but if you analyze it profoundly then it is more criticism on the institution of marriage and its abuses.

              Let us see it his own words

              Only fools think in terms of legality; otherwise, love is enough. And I am not against marriage — I am for love. If love becomes your marriage, good; but don’t hope that marriage can bring love. That is not possible. Love can become a marriage. You have to work very consciously to transform your love into a marriage.

              Marriage is a totally different phenomenon: it is the climax of love. Then it is good. I am not against marriage — I am for the REAL marriage. I am against the false, the pseudo, that exists. But it is an arrangement. It gives you a certain security, safety, occupation. It keeps you engaged. Otherwise, it gives you no enrichment, it gives you no nourishment.

              Osho Quotes on Marriage | Osho Quotes and Insights on Marriage

              Love can become marriage, but then it is a totally different kind of marriage: it is not a social formality, it is not an institution, it is not a bondage. When love becomes marriage it means two individuals decide to live together -- but in absolute freedom, nonpossessive of each other. Love is nonpossessive; it gives freedom.

              When love grows into marriage, marriage is not an ordinary thing. It is absolutely extraordinary. It has nothing to do with the registry office. You may need the registry office also, the social sanction may be needed, but those are just on the periphery; they are not the central core of it. In the center is the heart, in the center is freedom.

              But why do I tell people to get married? When I see that they are after security, when I see that they are after social sanction, when I see they are afraid, when I see that they cannot move into love if marriage is not there, then I tell them to go into it -- but I will go on helping them to go beyond it. I will go on helping them to transcend it.


              Marriage is the ugliest institution invented by man. It is not natural; it has been invented so that you can monopolize a woman. You have been treating women as if they were a piece of land, or some currency notes. You have reduced the woman to a thing. Remember that if you reduce any human being to a thing -- unaware, unconscious -- you are also being reduced to the same status; otherwise, you will not be able to communicate. If you can talk with a chair, you must be a chair.

              If marriage disappears, divorce disappears automatically. This is a by-product of marriage. Nobody takes note of the simple fact: why for centuries have there been prostitutes? Who created them? Who is responsible for these poor women? It is the institution of marriage. You are bored with your wife; just for a change you go to a woman who is not going to be a bondage

              Don't think that only your wife is responsible. She may be, but that is not the point, because she has not asked the question. You have asked the question. Start changing your life. Give the poor woman a little feeling of significance. Give the little woman a little feeling that she is needed. Do you know the greatest need in life is to be needed? And unless a person feels that he or she is needed, his or her life remains meaningless, desert-like. Laugh with her, listen to music together, go for a holiday in the Himalayas.

              Caress her body, because bodies start shrinking when nobody caresses them. Bodies start becoming ugly when nobody looks with appreciation. And then you think, "Why is my wife not beautiful?" You are not creating the climate in which beauty flowers, blooms. If you love a person, the person immediately becomes beautiful! Love is such an alchemical process. Look at a person with loving eyes, and suddenly you will see his, her aura changing, the face becoming radiant, more blood coming to the face, eyes becoming more shiny, radiance, intelligence -- and like a miracle. Love is a miracle, love is magical. It is not yet too late.
              Osho on Life in a marriage & its Problems, Osho on Marriage problems

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              • #22
                Gomal does not believe in falsehood.

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                • #23
                  Osho on money and roll ryces

                  Our whole attitude about life is money-oriented. And money is one of the most uncreative things one can become interested in. Our whole approach is power-oriented and power is destructive, not creative. A man who is after money will become destructive, because money has to be robbed, exploited; it has to be taken away from many people, only then can you have it. Power simply means you have to make many people impotent, you have to destroy them — only then will you be powerful, can you be powerful.

                  If you love money and you want to be creative, you cannot become creative. The very ambition for money is going to destroy your creativity. If you want fame, then forget about creativity. Fame comes easier if you are destructive.

                  I was just a tourist there (USA - Oregon), and I made the whole of America disturbed. They had enough money; they could have purchased more Rolls Royces if they wanted. But they had no guts for that either. They were condemning me, saying that I am a materialist. And you will be surprised; one bishop who was continuously condemning me as a materialist, wrote me a letter, privately, saying, "It would be very compassionate of you if you could donate a Rolls Royce to my church.

                  It is part of my whole device to change the very structure of human consciousness. The past has revered poverty, asceticism, masochistic attitudes. A man was respected if he was renouncing all that is pleasant, all that is comfortable. He was respected for torturing himself; the greater the torture, the greater the respect. The whole human past is masochistic, and all the religions have contributed to this insanity. My effort is to change such a vast past and its influence. So it has been only a device. I have not been creating desires for materialistic things in people; they are there without anybody's creating them. Yes, they have been repressed so deeply that people have even forgotten that they had them. I am not creating them; I simply want to remove the cover-up, the repression, and to make the person realize that he wants a Rolls Royce more than enlightenment. This realization will be a basic step towards enlightenment, because it will make him aware of his own reality, his greed. There was no need for ninety-three Rolls Royces. I could not use ninety-three Rolls Royces simultaneously -- the same model, the same car. But I wanted to make it clear to you that you would be ready to drop all your desires for truth, for love, for spiritual growth to have a Rolls Royce. I was knowingly creating a situation in which you would feel jealous. The function of a master is very strange. He has to help you come to an understanding of your inner structure of consciousness: it is full of jealousy.


                  I had seven, and they were condemning me -- a spiritual man, an enlightened person, having seven Rolls Royces when people are dying of starvation? Now I have ninety. Now they don't condemn me. They know that if they continue condemning me, I will go on having more and more Rolls Royces until they are satisfied. I have my own individuality. I don't need anybody's respect, because I am so full there is no space for anything else. And it has been a tremendous experience to be so notorious and yet to be loved by millions of people. That gives a great hope, that even an ordinary man can be loved; you need not to be extraordinary to be loved.
                  Otoons - Osho and the Roll Royces

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                  • #24
                    Osho's ideas aren't revolutionary; they're typical of cowardly people who don't want to bear responsibility for their choices and actions in life.

                    These aren't words of enlightement but just scapegoat for incompetence.

                    as for Osho's materialism

                    it's here ...his emphasis on material conquest than enlightenment shows hie is everything bit wise.
                    OSHO: I Am the Rich Man&#39;s Guru - YouTube

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                    • #25
                      also Osho contradicts himself a lot ....look at where Osho posted Rajneesh's quotes he says "I'm not against marriage"

                      but in his videos he says he wants everyone to get divorced and he wants to get rid of marriage.

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                      • #26
                        OSHO: Let Sex Be a Playfulness - YouTube

                        Osho says it himself in here "no responsibilty"

                        typical childish coward.

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                        • #27
                          Anyone on this forum can come up with better philosphy than Osho.

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                          • #28
                            Osho's rhetoric can't be deemed a philosophy, it's just a shallow, commercialized artificial set of blind impulses

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                            • #29
                              miss cleo changed my life. they both had similar ideologies. both were garbage.

                              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                              Sayyid Qutb

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                              • #30
                                If Osho is so "great" why he cant do anythings against the people who **** and pee on his grave every day.

                                Why he cant come back ....because he is nothing than a psycho who took to much heroin and weed.
                                High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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