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  • #46
    Originally posted by DaZahroJaam View Post
    you mean to say that you know women who are sexually attracted to other women but do not believe in women having the same rights as men?
    You define feminism to be a struggle for equal rights for men and women? If so, a lot of feminists would disagree with you. I mean, I recently interviewed several people, including Muslims, who were all about women and men having equal rights and even used Islam to say that's possible, but when I asked them about feminism or if they'd ever be okay with calling themselves such, they said, "Oh, no. Not at all. I'm not a feminist."

    It makes one wonder how these people, or even feminists themselves, define feminism.

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    • #47
      i believe in woman's rights but i don't consider myself a feminist. nor do i believe that all men and women are equal.

      I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

      non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon
        Qrratagai, why did you disagree with this and why did you ask for sources?
        If you read my posts in response to this, you'd know why.

        Originally posted by DaZahroJaam View Post
        i believe in woman's rights but i don't consider myself a feminist. nor do i believe that all men and women are equal.
        Exactly the same thing with other people, who, though they share the same views as feminists generally do, don't call themselves feminists, since not all feminist believe that men and women are equal.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Qrratugai View Post
          If you read my posts in response to this, you'd know why.
          I apologize, I read some posts wrong the first time. You are right I agree with you.
          Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

          [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

          [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
            I apologize, I read some post wrong the first time. You are right I agree with you.
            No worries, it's all good. It happens.

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            • #51
              I have deleted most of my posts in this thread--my whole process of logic was wrong.

              The chain of my logic started with this statement:


              Originally posted by DaZahroJaam View Post
              every feminist is not a lesbian but every lesbian is a feminist.
              I had initially read it as: every feminist is not a lesbian and every lesbian is not a feminist.
              Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

              [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

              [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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              • #52
                i still stand by it.

                I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                • #53
                  As I have always maintained, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Your answer might be right; however, it would be hard for me to make a blanket statement without knowing the facts.
                  Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                  [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                  [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                  • #54
                    two different things can't be compared hence not equal.


                    I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                    non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                    • #55
                      ^So you are saying that a black person is not equal to a white person?
                      Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                      [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                      [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                      • #56
                        Few questions are needed to be answered and searched.
                        Is lesbianism an insanity, psychiatric problem?
                        It is biological, neurological or hormonal disorder?
                        Feminists are mainly Lesbian-feminists?
                        To which extent this concept of feminism, lesbian-feminism from west has penetrated into muslim world?
                        Last edited by Michin Khel; 05-16-2010, 05:02 PM.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                          ^So you are saying that a black person is not equal to a white person?

                          we are talking about men and women not black and white.




                          I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                          non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                          • #58
                            What sets apart a black person from a white person? What sets apart a woman from a man?
                            Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                            [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                            [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                              What sets apart a black person from a white person? What sets apart a woman from a man?
                              a green apple is an apple and then a red apple is still an apple====men (black/white)

                              an orange however is an orange. it can't be an apple no matter what color it comes in. women (white women/black women)


                              they are both fruits(human beings) of different kinds (black or white)

                              okay fine, we are not equal but we have equal rights

                              i swear to God i have got myself so confused right now

                              I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                              non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                              • #60
                                I would say that men and women are not the same physically. The are not the same because they both have different natural roles. However, this difference is not their own making. Allah has created them this way. However, they still need to have their needs to be taken care of naturally. Their natural needs have been taken care of by Allah. Therefore, in the eyes of Allah they are equal--which is all that matters!
                                Last edited by MeemWawMeemNoon; 05-16-2010, 05:06 PM.
                                Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                                [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                                [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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