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  • #31
    And here is a brave Pakistani minister !!

    ยป Pakistan will not repeal blasphemy law: minister
    Vande Mataram - Lata Mangeshkar - YouTube

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    • #32
      واللہ لا یہدی القوم الظالمین 62:5

      Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
      Pir Rokhan Saib,

      Quran says: 'Those who insult Allah and His Rasool SAW, kill them, crucify them or make them leave your land' Do you know after Makkah was conquered all the people were forgiven except the ten?

      Yes I agree that the system needs to be more efficient and just in such matters, kho dasi kas che manali e wi khabara che haghi da Rasool ullah saw pa shaan ki gustakhi kari da nu hagha za kho na maaf kawam .. !! Noora sta khwakha da
      Are you aware of the condition and status, the Christians have in Panjab? If you call them bad names, they don't have the courage to answer back. Saying bad words about the Prophet? No way they will dare to say such word. They are not only considered low class but not even human beings. Have mercy on your self believing on the witness of other women of the village and media. The Judge should have asked those witness women to recite Kalma before accepting them as witnesses. I bet they won't know. اِناللہ لا یھدی من ھو مسرف کذاب 28:40. Fear Allah and don't side with the cruels and liars. Protect the poor and weak. واللہ لا یہدی القوم الظالمین62:5 . Remember Allah refuses any guidance to a cruel nation. That is what happening to Pakistan. Don't you see the Curse of Allah on this country and the people living there? At least think of your own soul and don't be one of them as human being, I am not excluding pakhtuns living in that country.
      The end of Ignorance, is the beginning of Knowledge.
      Knowledge has no end. It keeps expanding into the infinity.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
        Pir Rokhan Saib,

        Quran says: 'Those who insult Allah and His Rasool SAW, kill them, crucify them or make them leave your land' Do you know after Makkah was conquered all the people were forgiven except the ten?

        Yes I agree that the system needs to be more efficient and just in such matters, kho dasi kas che manali e wi khabara che haghi da Rasool ullah saw pa shaan ki gustakhi kari da nu hagha za kho na maaf kawam .. !! Noora sta khwakha da
        The system does not need to be efficient it needs to be uprooted as per Shahwaliullah's concept of " Fakko Kula Nizaam" [Translation: Uproot the whole system]. However this is not the basic problem of Pakistan. I am afraid it is destined for something much worst due to the conflict of interst between the nations living in its geographsical jurisdiction against the wishes of a lot of loyal sympathisers of the Punjab's imperialism.

        This verse has nothing to do with the punishment for blasphemy. For details check Javed Ahmed Ghamdi who is the most competant Islamic scholar in Pakistan currently. His established view is that there is not a single verse or a single sahih hadith which supports the execution of someone due to blasphemy charges.

        GEO showed a program on the subject on 23, Nov 2010 named "Kehnay may kia harj hay". You can check that for quick reference. For details you need to read Ghamdi's books, Dr Khaid Zaheer etc. I am intentionally quoting Pakistani and pro-Pakistani scholars so it is easy for you to digest the facts which might contradict your wishes.
        Last edited by pir_Rokhan; 11-24-2010, 05:47 AM.
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        • #34
          Darvaish Aao Pir Rokhan saib:

          You are hitting the justice system of the country, I'd already agreed that it's weak. As the judge inquired about the case and he even listened to the witnesses he founds her guilty and he gave her the right punishment. Now no one (though there is the President) should be allowed to set her free. This is my opinion about it ..
          yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by roadrunner View Post
            Shehbaz. Can you give a Quranic reference for this?

            Sure, lemme get it
            yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
              Darvaish Aao Pir Rokhan saib:

              You are hitting the justice system of the country, I'd already agreed that it's weak. As the judge inquired about the case and he even listened to the witnesses he founds her guilty and he gave her the right punishment. Now no one (though there is the President) should be allowed to set her free. This is my opinion about it ..
              If the justice system is weak, you agreed to that, then why the judge could be trusted in this case and his judgement final. You may know that much that the verdict of a local judge can be appealed in the higher court. Why is his verdict final and above the system.
              The end of Ignorance, is the beginning of Knowledge.
              Knowledge has no end. It keeps expanding into the infinity.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
                Dervaish sahiba, da nakhi myanz di owishto .. Laas pa milao ko?

                As you are Dervaish by name nu hela laram che da di masaelo sa ilaj ba hum lari?

                The previous 3 or 4 generations did nothing for you. They kept accepting all the evils as they were. Now it is your turn of the young generation to accept the worst evils for your children and look towards the current evil leader for help or rise up, pick leaders among yourselves, get organized and demolish the present hierarchy of leadership. You need an organized revolution. It can be done without violence and guns. You need a vision and sense. You yourself can be a leader. Every individual is born with the potential of Leadership. The training of his society strip him of those potential. Have courage and test your leadership potential in the small group of your friends. You will discover your self.
                The end of Ignorance, is the beginning of Knowledge.
                Knowledge has no end. It keeps expanding into the infinity.

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