One Law For All: Shariah - Muslims Against Crusades

[akbarkhan]

Some of us dont want to become Slaves or Proxies of Arabs.

We are at a stage in life where making walls collapse on human beings as punishment is seen as backward and best suited in an era where Psychology and welfare of human beings wasnt examined throughly.

You came on here promoting the whole Loy Afghanistan but Pir Rokhan made a very good point that the Majority of Muslims in Pakistan will oppose it and According to your views, A muslim should never kill a fellow Muslim, so your whole loy Afghanistan should be thrown into the trash bin. Without Nationalism there will be no unification of Pashtuns, Islam was tried but that failed and you are witnessing it right now.

The bloodshed over Relgion is more dangerous than Nationalism. A person who wants to have sex with 72 white virgins and drink unlimited amounts of Milk in the here after will kill you with no justification since his/her life is already traumaticised by Mullahs in their present life.

Relgion plays with ones emotions and can be used and more fatal than any other ideology weather it being communism or Nationalism. Since you regard anybody fighting for Pashtun rights as a Nationalist, I in turn regard those pushing an Arab Desert Bedion Agenda onto Pashtuns as not only an threat to the existance of Pashtuns but a person with an hidden agenda to continue allowing Pashtuns to become proxies of Psychotic Arab Mullahs sat in the middle east who are so coward that they cant even send one of their Mujahids to fight the Israeli Army but encourage them to attack Afghan government.


Kind Regards

Your entire post is kindergarten doodle apart from the point you made concerning Arabs and Palastinians.

The crashing defeat experienced by the Arabs in the six day war has left them in despair for decades. Without shadow of a doubt the Arabs will maintain this position of cowardice until their natural resources dry up, it is pity indeed but it is a prophecy of the Prophet. The hour shall not come until the Arab peninsula is turned into orchards, nor shall the hour come until the bare foot Arab competes in building lofty sky scrapers.

While you rightly point finger at Arabs, simultaneously and foolishly, you vouch for nationalism without knowing that Arabs owe their miserable current state of affairs to nationalism.

Little is your knowledge of history and subsequently wide is the mouth through which you expel intellectual diarrhoea. Do you ever fathom the depths of El Auren's entrapments?

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Your entire post is kindergarten doodle apart from the point you made concerning Arabs and Palastinians.

The crashing defeat experienced by the Arabs in the six day war has left them in despair for decades. Without shadow of a doubt the Arabs will maintain this position of cowardice until their natural resources dry up, it is pity indeed but it is a prophecy of the Prophet. The hour shall not come until the Arab peninsula is turned into orchards, nor shall the hour come until the bare foot Arab competes in building lofty sky scrapers.

While you rightly point finger at Arabs, simultaneously and foolishly, you vouch for nationalism without knowing that Arabs owe their miserable current state of affairs to nationalism.

Little is your knowledge of history and subsequently wide is the mouth through which you expel intellectual diarrhoea. Do you ever fathom the depths of El Auren's entrapments?

As I said, do you think Muslims will Support your ambitions of an Loy Afghanistan and Sangar once wrote that the collapsing of Buildings as Punishment is acceptable in Accordance of Shariat, so in this modern era would people consider collapsing walls and stoning women as a legit way of seeking justice or just plain lunancy.

Secondly, If you didnt know the likes of hamid gul,col imam and other supporters of trash Afghan talib speak and oppose Nationalism in the same way you do.

So what does that show about you.

If you oppose Pashtun Unity and Nationalism, then what do you support? Pashtuns to be under the control of Lunatics from LaL masjid and ISI HQ? or would you like Afghanistan to be another province of the Islamic republic of Pakistan.

I bet you was well chuffed when ISI hanged Najibullah, now you can cheer on the Afghans beggers in Islamabad Airport begging Pakistanis for food. Its all due to people such as you that Afghans are in the position that they are.

Kind Regards

[akbarkhan]

First and foremost, I will let you get away with the red herrings. Its easy to ignore things but I recommend you this book http://www.amazon.com/o/asin/0691122...bird/ref=nosim

Collapsing walls and stoning women as a legit way of seeking justice or just plain lunancy.

I take it you are a Muslim, are you saying that we should change the Ahkam of Allah swt?

Secondly, If you didnt know the likes of hamid gul,col imam and other supporters of trash Afghan talib speak and oppose Nationalism in the same way you do.

Doesn't make sense, rephrase.

If you oppose Pashtun Unity and Nationalism, then what do you support?

I support Afghan unity as a local parameter and Muslim unity as a global one.

Pashtuns to be under the control of Lunatics from LaL masjid and ISI HQ? or would you like Afghanistan to be another province of the Islamic republic of Pakistan.

Pashtuns like yourself? Pashtuns who have subliminaly been indoctrinated, inadvertently becoming the instruments of Qadiyani Pakistani military establishment?

I bet you was well chuffed when ISI hanged Najibullah, now you can cheer on the Afghans beggers in Islamabad Airport begging Pakistanis for food. Its all due to people such as you that Afghans are in the position that they are.

I don't have nothing to cheer about, my only regret is that youngsters such as yourself are lost in bottomless pit of ideological vortex.

[amna.]

Akbar, do you have any threads here where I can learn more about Shariah law. all the sources in the web badmouth it so I say they are biased.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Akbar, do you have any threads here where I can learn more about Shariah law. all the sources in the web badmouth it so I say they are biased.

If you support public flogging, stoning of women, beheadings, rape cases treated by three eye witnesses ignoring DNA and technology, cutting of peoples hands, looting non muslim lands and taking their women as war booty, replacing the state and national language into Arabic then go ahead vote for Sharia.


"The woman was sentenced to 200 lashes and six months in jail because she was in an unrelated man's car. The car was attacked by a gang who raped her"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7106881.stm

Those who promote Shariat especially in Afghanistan have a different motive, that being to serve to bring Afghanistan backwards instead of forward. Shariat is a failed system of law and justice, and Saudi barely runs on it by Petrol dollars and constant brainwashing through mosques and Media.

Its never worked before, and times have changed since 1500 years ago, we approach things differently now a days, we have technology, we have a culture and sytem much different than 1500 years ago, those who want to destroy Afghanistan and establish some Arabised emerite where Arabs will recruit Pashtun women to be their women of their Minerates.

Akbar Khan, You are working agaisnt Pakistan, which is a Prodominately MUSLIM COUNTRY, a Loy Afghanistan under a islamic pretext is invalid and makes no sense. A Loy Afghanistan under a Nationalistic struggle is much more valid, but i guess you dont see that, as you want rewards in the afterlife while Pashtuns get slaughtered by the mercenaries of Arabs.

Kind Regards

[pir_Rokhan]

Were Pir Rokhan enlightened with the knowledge of Islam to the extent that you like to portray, then surely he would have become a Muslim!?

Please somebody tell me how does the knowledge of something proves belief in the same? BTW I am dead sure, based on my experience, that by becoming a muslim you unconsciously mean becoming a person who believes in the creeds and dogmas of your sect.

And you tell us that "you support unification of Afghans as a local parameter and Muslim Unification as a global parameter" when you yourself know very well that it is a dream and impossible even probabilistically and also according to the saying of the Prophet who contrary to your grand unification theory based on wishful thinking informed the world that the people who call themselves Muslims will get divided into 72 sects [hence implying that those poor people who label themselves as Muslims should not even think about unification of Muslims].

[єѕαρχαι]

If i consider myself a musilm i wouldnt go rogue against pakistan. Panjabis are muslims too . For the sake of islam i would shut up and not encourage any movement against the only muslim nuclear power.

but if i consider myself a pashtun more than a muslim
it would be pashtunistan , the only land i would be supporting.

[pir_Rokhan]

I take it you are a Muslim, are you saying that we should change the Ahkam of Allah swt?

I do not think anyone has the final authority to call something that illogical as the permanent "Ahkam of God" without giving a slightest chance to common sense and logic to atleats interpret it in a bit rational way giving due to respect to progress of humanity in criminology , jurisprudence and psychology.

I support Afghan unity as a local parameter and Muslim unity as a global one.

What will be the basis of Afghan Unity?
There is no basis for Muslim Unity as the saying of the prophet predicts the division of even the existing unified muslims further into more than 70 sects.

Pashtuns like yourself? Pashtuns who have subliminaly been indoctrinated, inadvertently becoming the instruments of Qadiyani Pakistani military establishment?

I donot think Maseed is among the ISI stooges or stalwarts as he is against the Religeous agenda of Taliban in Afghanistan.

Those who propose a theocratic solution to the woes of Afghans are consciously or unconsciosuly becoming the instruments of Pakistani establishment whether they are Qadyani,Shia,Barelwi,Wahabi ,Sunni or belonging to any other sect.

I don't have nothing to cheer about, my only regret is that youngsters such as yourself are lost in bottomless pit of ideological vortex.

If youngsters like Maseed are getting and spreading political awareness and contributing to the bright future of Afghans by exposing the religeous demagogues to be the spies of Pakistani and other agencies working on their malicious designs to destabilise Afghanistan ,then we should encourage them as such youngsters are rays of hope for the nation which has been used in the proxy wars of other nations for decades and has been convinced to loose everything in the name of religion.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Well, if the prophet said muslims will be divided in the future, so wouldnt unifiying muslims go against what he says.

As usual, we can see there is another hidden motive going there and its called Politics.

Arabs need Political backing from the other side of the world, just like how Pakistan needs Afghanistan as a waste ground for its nuclear waste and Army bases etc, Arabs will push this form of Islam which is Arab Nationalism in its truest form.

Go ask any Muslim, he will say dont insult Arabic because it will be the language of Heaven and other languages will be destroyed. Being promised 72 white virgins and speaking Arabic seems quite clear its Arab Imperialism, and its sad how these Mullahs target these vulnerable Pashtun youth.

Kind Regards

[MazloomyarMaseed]

I do not think anyone has the final authority to call something that illogical as the permanent "Ahkam of God" without giving a slightest chance to common sense and logic to atleats interpret it in a bit rational way giving due to respect to progress of humanity in criminology , jurisprudence and psychology.



What will be the basis of Afghan Unity?
There is no basis for Muslim Unity as the saying of the prophet predicts the division of even the existing unified muslims further into more than 70 sects.



I donot think Maseed is among the ISI stooges or stalwarts as he is against the Religeous agenda of Taliban in Afghanistan.

Those who propose a theocratic solution to the woes of Afghans are consciously or unconsciosuly becoming the instruments of Pakistani establishment whether they are Qadyani,Shia,Barelwi,Wahabi ,Sunni or belonging to any other sect.



If youngsters like Maseed are getting and spreading political awareness and contributing to the bright future of Afghans by exposing the religeous demagogues to be the spies of Pakistani and other agencies working on their malicious designs to destabilise Afghanistan ,then we should encourage then as such youngsters are rays of hope for the nation which has been used in the proxy wars of other nations for decades and has been convinced to loose everything in the name of religion.

This is what I mean, AKbar Khan insults those as ISI agents but knows very well himself that ISI made and invented his mindset.

ISI COl imam publically praises Mullah Omar and was even in Afghanistan during the Taliban rule as an advisor on behalf of Pak Military, What has qadiyanis got to do with it, Akber Khan again fails to reconise the fact that majority of Afghan talibs are supported by Pakistanis, the same Pakistanis who wear short sleeve tops and listen to atif aslam (ie uzma gul, hamid guls daughter)

He also fails at reconising the fact that these tell tales of Shariat being humane is nothing but a plott by the Pakistani ISI and establish to turn Afghanistan backward and into the realm of Medevil times so it can turn Afghans into a gulable and easily misled people who will be anti progression and dream about the afterlife ignoring the real state the nation is in.

Akbar Khan, maybe out of desparation or utter arrogance brings out the ISI card on me, ignoring the fact that nearly all my comments go against ISI and their children the Taliban, I refuse the fact that Taliban was a creation of Afghans, Akber Khan again ignores the fact that Taliban movement was produced at the darul islami Haqqani led by Maulana Sami ul haq, I remmeber before America attacked Afghanistan, there was a meeting where hamid gul and general aslam baig attended at the islamic conference at haqqanis madrassah pledging to Support Afghan Taliban at all costs according to Zahid Hussains book called Frontline Pakistan.

Akber Khan also failed at the fact that most support voice for the Afghan talib comes from Pakistani Jamiet Political Parties and the likes of Maulana Munawar from Karachi who openly supports the Taliban in Afghanistan.

I dispise all of them, I want pashtuns to be progressive and not be proxies of Mullahs,Arab Imperialists and Punjabi Pakistani Jihadis.

Kind Regards

[pir_Rokhan]

If i consider myself a musilm i wouldnt go rogue against pakistan. Panjabis are muslims too . For the sake of islam i would shut up and not encourage any movement against the only muslim nuclear power.

but if i consider myself a pashtun more than a muslim
it would be pashtunistan , the only land i would be supporting.

You are sounding it like being Pashtun and being muslim are mutually exclusive. This is wrong. The same is true for implying that every Pashtuns is or should be a muslim.

Neither the voice against Punjab or Pakistan is on the basis of their common religion with us nor our support of Pakistan should be due to their common religion with us.

It is the anti Afghan policies of Pakistan and other countries ,no matter sacred they are historically, in the past and present which we are against whether they believe in One God or No God and it is their support for Afghanistan which we appreciate whether they believe in one God or No God.

The matter of religion is purely an academic issue and I am sure if you discuss the very concept of God even among yourselves, forget about debating with muslims of other muslims countries, there will be as many versions of it as there are muslims in the world.

[єѕαρχαι]

define term "afghan"

[єѕαρχαι]

lol. tajikis , hazaras call themselves afghan too.

according to pakistan ? prove it

[Marwat]

lol. tajikis , hazaras call themselves afghan too.

according to pakistan ? prove it

On Pakistan domicles you are listed as Afghan in ethnicity.

What does the "A" in Pakistan mean.

[єѕαρχαι]

A could stand for azz . i am not that pro pakistan . But i dont like hypocrites.

i am enlisted as pashtun...