One Law For All: Shariah - Muslims Against Crusades

[akbarkhan]

Thank you very much. Now there are several things I heard about Shariah law that I want to clarify, May I ask?

If I know the answers I will relate them to you, however I sincerely request you to go to your local mosque on a Friday and ask your local Imam.

[Palwasha]

Thank you very much. Now there are several things I heard about Shariah law that I want to clarify, May I ask?

Rihana, you could also post your questions here.

http://www.pashtunforums.com/religion-15/understanding-islam-better-1348/index88.html#post61668

[akbarkhan]

I dont feel comfortable speaking to a Imam...I really don't.

Why does Shariah law make non-Muslims pay a certain amount of money?

Muslims pay a compulsary tax called zakat, they pay this tax because it is one of the five pillers of Islam.

Non-Muslims living in Islamic state are clearly not Muslims hence they do not pay the Zakat, instead they pay Jizya which is a tax for non-Muslims. If you crunch numbers the Jizya works alot less compared to Zakat.

So please reflect on this, if a non-Muslim doesn't pay Zakat because they don't uphold Zakat as part of their faith and if they don't pay Jizya then how are they going to pay for the public services they use? Shouldn't they contribute at all?

[akbarkhan]

I don't live near a Imam. I live in the suburbs now. Thanks Guley I will.

But these are political questions I have, Can I ask you something too?

I don't encourage derailing this thread, I am sure there was an ask 'moi' thread somewhere.

[Palwasha]

^ Please post your questioins in this thread wrora, where we can answer them properly, InshAllah.

http://www.pashtunforums.com/religio...m-better-1348/

[akbarkhan]

I am against Shariah law and this is why:

Islam allows husbands to hit their wives even if the husbands merely fear highhandedness in their wives. Islam commands that drinkers and gamblers should be whipped
What if someone occasionally drinks?Islam allows an injured plaintiff to exact legal revenge—physical eye for physical eye. Islam commands that a male and female thief must have a hand cut off. What if it was a mistake? What if he/she repents?

O really? But when your Puranas classify people as 'heads', 'body' and 'legs' that is all chukdey putte?

You don't even understand the basics of those rules so I am not going to even bother explaining them to you.

[akbarkhan]

I guess that means you have no rebuttal? This is a thread about Shariah, I brought forward some serious questions.

Keep seeking solace in guessing, if you understood the basic of Islamic jurisprudence you wouldn't pose loaded questions. The sly trick of your kind is that you don't know nothing about Islam yet you want to talk about it, the reason being, you are more interested in bashing Islam instead of learning it hence it is a complete waste of time for me to recite Yasin e Shareef to you.

[Palwasha]

^My questions is the politics of Shariah law. I am planning to make a thread in which I am going to post all my misconceptions, At least what you might think are misconceptions in the future. For now, Those who are promoting Shariah law, I want them to answer that neutrally.

Okay, fair enough, only in that thread you'd get more of a response.

I look forward to your thread.

[akbarkhan]

Now, on to my questions. Wouldn't you mind clearing up a misconception for your fellow Kandahary from Hindu chowk?

To me you are a fellow human being, a fellow kandahary doesn't mean anything to me, I am not that narrow minded. Please go ahead with your questions.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Keep seeking solace in guessing, if you understood the basic of Islamic jurisprudence you wouldn't pose loaded questions. The sly trick of your kind is that you don't know nothing about Islam yet you want to talk about it, the reason being, you are more interested in bashing Islam instead of learning it hence it is a complete waste of time for me to recite Yasin e Shareef to you.

The trick of your Kind?

There are alot of members here who know alot about islam such as pir rokhan nadir shah etc but its you, the advocators of Shariat who can get a tough time from them.

If Shariat is whats being practiced in Saudi Arabia then I am sorry, no sane person will follow it, Imgine Saudis oil finishes, do u fink those people will continue to live under it. Those laws are best suited for Desert bedions.

Kind Regards

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

I guess that means you have no rebuttal? This is a thread about Shariah, I brought forward some serious questions.

Islam does allow a man to hit his wife. There is no doubt about it whatsoever. If a person denies it, he denies the Quran.

There are rules for hitting your wife though. You can only hit her if she's being 'disobedient'. Now suppose a husband makes unjust and undue demands and his wife naturally refuses, the husband will still be entitled to hit her because in his eyes, she is being disobedient... How he hits her and what he hits her with are things that the scholars disagree on. In the end, some say you can hit her with a toothbrush.

[akbarkhan]

The trick of your Kind?

There are alot of members here who know alot about islam such as pir rokhan nadir shah etc but its you, the advocators of Shariat who can get a tough time from them.

If Shariat is whats being practiced in Saudi Arabia then I am sorry, no sane person will follow it, Imgine Saudis oil finishes, do u fink those people will continue to live under it. Those laws are best suited for Desert bedions.

Kind Regards

Were Pir Rokhan enlightened with the knowledge of Islam to the extent that you like to portray, then surely he would have become a Muslim!? If he is so knowledgable that he refuses to take the Shahadah, then doesn't that imply that you are a stupid individual for accepting Islam? Little boy, tough time from who? Tough time on an online forum full of kids? Or tough time in daily lives where rear ends are on the line!

Again and again you are jocking on threads without ever constructing a sound argument, your barrenness of intellectual argumentative discourse does not cease to amuse me. And puh'lease don't ever imply that I endorse the Saudi government, not even in your wildest dreams.

[akbarkhan]

I am all for Shariah law now that I studied more about it,

What does Shariah law say about Taxation?

Zakat for Muslims and since non-Muslims don't pay the Zakat they have to pay an alternative tax called Jizya. Jizya works out alot less than Zakat, so non-Muslims living in Islamic states pay less and are exempt from military service. Their protection becomes the responsibility of the Islamic state and their places of worship are protected.

By implementing the Sharia, Muslims lived with Christians and Jews in harmony particularly in Andalusia, time and over again Muslims protected the Jews against Christian aggression and that is what Sharia encourages.

[akbarkhan]

I love Shariah law as well. But Akbar Khan what happens if the non-Muslim refuses to pay Jizya?

What happens when you don't pay tax in United States, United Kingdom or any other country?

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Were Pir Rokhan enlightened with the knowledge of Islam to the extent that you like to portray, then surely he would have become a Muslim!? If he is so knowledgable that he refuses to take the Shahadah, then doesn't that imply that you are a stupid individual for accepting Islam? Little boy, tough time from who? Tough time on an online forum full of kids? Or tough time in daily lives where rear ends are on the line!

Again and again you are jocking on threads without ever constructing a sound argument, your barrenness of intellectual argumentative discourse does not cease to amuse me. And puh'lease don't ever imply that I endorse the Saudi government, not even in your wildest dreams.

Some of us dont want to become Slaves or Proxies of Arabs.

We are at a stage in life where making walls collapse on human beings as punishment is seen as backward and best suited in an era where Psychology and welfare of human beings wasnt examined throughly.

You came on here promoting the whole Loy Afghanistan but Pir Rokhan made a very good point that the Majority of Muslims in Pakistan will oppose it and According to your views, A muslim should never kill a fellow Muslim, so your whole loy Afghanistan should be thrown into the trash bin. Without Nationalism there will be no unification of Pashtuns, Islam was tried but that failed and you are witnessing it right now.

The bloodshed over Relgion is more dangerous than Nationalism. A person who wants to have sex with 72 white virgins and drink unlimited amounts of Milk in the here after will kill you with no justification since his/her life is already traumaticised by Mullahs in their present life.

Relgion plays with ones emotions and can be used and more fatal than any other ideology weather it being communism or Nationalism. Since you regard anybody fighting for Pashtun rights as a Nationalist, I in turn regard those pushing an Arab Desert Bedion Agenda onto Pashtuns as not only an threat to the existance of Pashtuns but a person with an hidden agenda to continue allowing Pashtuns to become proxies of Psychotic Arab Mullahs sat in the middle east who are so coward that they cant even send one of their Mujahids to fight the Israeli Army but encourage them to attack Afghan government.


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