Freedom of Belief and Religion according to Islam

[Maiwand]

[Al Hanif]

Salam Alaykum

Did you followed religious studies in Netherlands ?

[Maiwand]

Salam Alaykum

Did you followed religious studies in Netherlands ?

No, I am a student at regular university, but I read about Islam on my own.

[Al Hanif]

No, I am a student at regular university, but I read about Islam on my own.

Well, I did not watched your video so I can't judge but if you share the same message as the orthodox scholars from Ahl Al Sunna Wa Al Jama'a, then may Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala reward you for your deeds. Ameen.

Just be careful brother to not make your own interpretations because the science of tafsir and hadiths is hard and not for the muslim who has no knowledge.

Just share the same message as the orthodox sunnis scholars and there will be no problem.

JazakAllah Khayr

[Insaaf_انصاف]

Cowards living in west with cosy beds

[Soldat_Amir]

Banning other religions to preach, prohibit the construction of their buildings and enforcing them to pay separate taxes will lead to state sponsored discrimination and disorder.

We no longer live in the middle ages, we live in the information age, whereby people are free to follow what they want.

Thanks.

[Soldat_Amir]

No, I am a student at regular university, but I read about Islam on my own.

You live in a Christian Secular country that has paid for your upbringing and education on the tax payers money yet you wish upon your own kin in Afghanistan to follow values totally opposite to the ones you were brought up with.

What makes it even more insulting to the Dutch people who were so kind to even provide you a stage and right to speak your mind, is that you want to spread this virus(Talibanism) upon them that has resulted in the whole of Afghanistan going backwards.

[Afghanistan2010]

Banning other religions to preach, prohibit the construction of their buildings and enforcing them to pay separate taxes will lead to state sponsored discrimination and disorder.

We no longer live in the middle ages, we live in the information age, whereby people are free to follow what they want.

Thanks.

Yes , why can't you accept that the pope can have sex with children and young boys , its the information age.

And the communits/secularists forbid everything in China and ba a slave of the state you have no free will everything belongs to the state , even your ass.

[Bigmo]

Koran gives complete freedom

2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.

16:82 But if they turn away from you, your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message .

6:107 Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides Him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you a guardian over them.

4:79-80 Say:'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper."

11:28 He (Noah) said "O my people! think over it! If I act upon a clear direction from my Lord who has bestowed on me from Himself the Merciful talent of seeing the right way, a way which you cannot see for yourself, does it follow that we can force you to take the right path when you definitely decline to take it?°

17:53-54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner. Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe .... Hence, We have not sent you with power to determine their Faith.

21:107-109 (O Prophet?) 'We have not sent you except to be a mercy to all mankind:" Declare, "Verily, what is revealed to me is this, your God is the only One God, so is it not up to you to bow down to Him?' But if they turn away then say, "I have delivered the Truth in a manner clear to one and all, and I know not whether the promised hour is near or far."

22:67 To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord. You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter, `God best knows what you do."

24.54. Say: "Obey God, and obey the Messenger. but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message).

88:21 22; And so, exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.

48:28 He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.

36:16 17 (Three Messengers to their people) Said, "Our Sustainer knows that we have indeed been sent unto you, but we are not bound to more than clearly deliver the Message entrusted to us.'

39:41 Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man. Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper.

42:6 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach ....

64:12 Obey God then and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message.

67:25 26 And they ask, "When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?" Say, "The knowledge of it is verily with God alone, and verily I am but a plain warner."

10.99-100. If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe! No soul can believe, except by the will of God, and He will place doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand

28.55-56 And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: "To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant," It is true thou wilt not be able to guide whom thou lovest; but God guides those whom He will and He knows best those who receive guidance.

109.1-6 Say : O ye that reject Faith,! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship, And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship, To you be your Way, and to me mine.

74.11-17 Leave Me with whom I created alone!, To whom I granted resources in abundance, And sons to be by his side, To whom I made (life) smooth and comfortable, Yet is he greedy-that I should add (yet more);- By no means! For to Our Signs he has been refractory!, Soon will I visit him with a mount of calamities!

"So have We appointed for every Prophet an enemy - devils of men and Jinns; who inspire each other with seductive, deceptive speech which leads astray; but had thy Lord willed they would not have done so. So leave them with what they do devise. And let the hearts of those who believe not in the Hereafter listen to it; and let them be well pleased with it; and let them gain what they can gain!" 6:113-114

"And when you see those who meddle with Our revelations, withdraw from them until they meddle with another topic. And if the devil causes you to forget, sit not, after the remembrance, with the congregation of wrongdoers. 6:68

Complete freedom unparalleled in human literature.

Real islam is only Quran. Quran is peace!

[ozymandias]

I didnt say that so i dont knwo which part you agree.

You said that Judiasm and Christianity borrowed a lot from paganism, which is what I agreed with.

the religion of abraham was islam

Not true. This is a retroactive editing of history.

and yes as it is called nowadays abrahamic religion still i didnt say islam borrowd anything from paganisma ,but i would say nice try by you.

All the religions stemming from the judiasm of Abraham are considered "Abrahamic religions" -- it's the actual name of the category of religions. Since Abraham's religion was based on paganistic beliefs, any religion that stems from that includes basis as well.

see thats your problem you call a knowledgeable man a fool cuz he doesnt agree with you and your pre picture.

That has nothing to do with it. The fact remains that he *is* a fool. The fact that it is called the theory of evolution is not proof it is not true, it is proof that he doesn't understand what the word means in a scientific context, and is unwilling to learn.

i didnt say watch his video about evolution i said watch his video abotu islam and christianity but hey atheists are always the same.

I have seen enough videos from him, and they are all poorly done, and based on flawed arguments and illogical statements, so I stopped wasting time on him.

He does speak english well if you can see through your prejudice glasses and forget about his accent for a minute.

I disagree. The statements he makes about the theory of evolution is proof of that. It has nothing to do with his accent, and everything to do with his illogical statements, and abuse of the definitions of words.

well they have their testimonies and they were more fanatic than you are.

I'm not a fanatic.

so i dont know ahy i should take what you say serious and not them.

You should only take me serious if you wish to understand my view of the world. You are welcome to ignore me, and those like me if you want.

[ozymandias]

by criminals he means all the soldiers involved in the occuaption of his country ,not just the ones doing the torture in abu ghraib.

Plumbers and trashmen do needed jobs. Doesn't mean I glorify them for doing what was needed.

I disagree that they were all criminals, but you are welcome to have a different opinion -- but it's hard for me to understand the link between understanding they did a needed job and 'glorifying' them.

bro you really need to be honest and dont try to twist words and sneak through backdoor.

I am being honest. I recognize that they had a job to do, but that is not 'glorifying' them, and I also recognize that they were preforming actions of war, between two countries that had declared war on each other, and were operating under the guide lines and
treaties covering war on this planet. The war itself was not illegal, so not all participants are criminals -- only those that actually broke the laws, and treaties, and guidelines are criminals.

[Soldat_Amir]

Bigmo, this is the problem, you only take the favorable and good parts out of the Quran and ignore the rest.

I could quote many parts of the Quran that would contradict what you have just posted but it will land me in trouble with the authorities here.

Under an Islamic state, there is no such thing as a minority religion. Religions beside Islam, are prohibited to practice in public or build their places of worship. They are forced to pay a separate tax called Jizya.

Now, we are kind and historically tolerant Pashtun society, how are we going to progress with such backward laws.

We have sikhs, hindus, buddists, pagans, communists,secularists, liberal muslims, shia muslims all living in our region, do you seriously think we are going to succeed living under middle age Arabia laws?

You are looking at a never ending civil war in our region.

[Al Hanif]

Bigmo, this is the problem, you only take the favorable and good parts out of the Quran and ignore the rest.

All parts of the Qur'an are good.
Indeed he is a stupid Quranist who fails at life.

I could quote many parts of the Quran that would contradict what you have just posted but it will land me in trouble with the authorities here.

It is explained in the Quran itself that there are verses which abrogates other verses. There are Meccan verses and Medinan verses. Some verses are for Dar Al Islam, others are for Dar Al Kufr.

Under an Islamic state, there is no such thing as a minority religion. Religions beside Islam, are prohibited to practice in public or build their places of worship. They are forced to pay a separate tax called Jizya.

They are forced to pay a special tax but they are not forced to pay zakat in exchange. They have the right to practise their religion freely. Islam was the most toleant religion before secularism. But I agree that secularism is more liberal than Islam and this is why Islam is superior.

Now, we are kind and historically tolerant Pashtun society, how are we going to progress with such backward laws.

We have sikhs, hindus, buddists, pagans, communists,secularists, liberal muslims, shia muslims all living in our region, do you seriously think we are going to succeed living under middle age Arabia laws?

You are looking at a never ending civil war in our region.

kill them all, Allah SWT will recognize his own

[ozymandias]

Islam was the most toleant religion before secularism. But I agree that secularism is more liberal than Islam and this is why Islam is superior.

HAHAHAH!
As a non-muslim, I often hear that apostasy in Islam is punished by death -- and the laws of several Islamic countries seem to follow this. Could you explain why people would have that view of Islam, if Islam is tolerant, and allows the freedom of religion?

[al-arab]

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As a non-muslim, I often hear that apostasy in Islam is punished by death -- and the laws of several Islamic countries seem to follow this. Could you explain why people would have that view of Islam, if Islam is tolerant, and allows the freedom of religion?

Maybe you should do yourself a favor and [---EDITED---] and turn off your Fow channel and read a little about Islam, Islamic law (Sharia) and Islamic history just to name a few areas in order to understand Islam as it should be.

Understanding and studying Islam is something that acquires years of extensive study.

You certainly are not qualified to understand Islamic juristiction in the right contect.

Apart from that your redneck country (without any history) executed juvenile people until a few years ago.

And Al-Hanif is completely right about Islam being a much stronger force than anything man-made.