The Immorality of Child Abuse

[ozymandias]

I know the atheist pedos are not doing it in the name of atheism, my response was to your statement assuming Muhammad pbuh and anyone who follows him automatically agrees with pedophiles.

Unless you reject his actions, you do.

Emotions such as understanding and hatred is at the root of morality, our judgements of good and evil are influenced by emotional reactions such as empathy and disgust. It was moraly ok for women to be mistreated and moraly accepted for older men to marry young women, in arab society and anglo saxon society if not even worse in europe. moraly i say being homosexual is incorrect while you may agree with homosexual activity - whos right? we can debate that now but you cant sit there and say 1400 years ago the arabs were immoral because the whole world had the same philosophy.




for that statement to be true that would mean more or less all the ment in the world till the 1900's were all pedophiles

Not necessarily. There has not always been a huge disparity in age between men an women at marriage, and pedophilia is less of a concern when the age gap is small. We are talking here, were 50 year old (or older) men are marrying 7 year olds, or are sexually abusing 7 year olds, not 20 year old men marrying 16 year olds.

if theres a type of person i have 0% sympathy for it would be a pedophile, id be able to watch a pedo get skind alive while i eat my food and have no emotion in me what so ever.

I agree with that.

[unknownprince]

Nah homie we dont need to threaten people for their views, or launch character assaults because we re threatened by the beliefs of others

The article is well researched in explaining the link between atheism and pedophilia. The author gives a well thought out analysis.

No one, no atheist is being threatened here for their views.

Pedophilia exists everywhere and amongst all faiths. However, recent research seems to be linking the immorality of pedophilia with atheism.

It is well known that atheists blur the distinction between right and wrong, and this is what the author of this article is pointing to in regards to pedophilia.

[ozymandias]

wth are you talking about?

you guys believe in falsehood and this is the opinion of 99.99.9% of Pashtuns.

A fact is not a fact because it is popular. Reality does not care if people agree with it. We believe in reality, and systematically finding what structures reality. It's not important if you agree with that -- it's still a fact.

You are welcome to believe that we believe in 'falsehood', but I can scientifically prove you wrong in that claim, and not once will popularity matter.

so again what is your reason for being here,apart from promoting falsehood and being closed minded?

See my last answer to this question.

[Alchemist]

Once again your ignorance shows.

Your dyslexia shows.

Alchemist this thread reminds me of the one you wasted everyone's time over about Kate Middleton's friend and her party.
You know very well as everyone else in here that 60 or 50 year old men marrying 13 years old girls in afghanistan is an actual issue that does exist in our society an deserves to be addressed as it affects out people while atheist who is in to this sort of thing is an idea that only roams in the wild imagination of people like you and unknownprince.
I have said this before and I will say it again.. I don't have a problem with anyone pulling faults in any religion culture or system as long as its done in a respectful manner with good intentions and for the right reasons. You playing this war filled with propaganda against the atheist by pulling out crap like this while they use the marriage of the prophet with Ayesha pbuh is insulting to people of actual belief in both sides. You are both munafiqs because you are misusing what you believe in knowing very well that it's not the best argument you could placing out there.
So stop making yourselves seem like a joke by kidding around like this.
Anyways, this thread is about to get violated on many levels and I would like for myself not to be a witness when that happens. Enjoy each others company.
And jamaludeen, don't flatter yourself. You were exchanging a few sentences with an individual who has not had the pleasure of any sleep in the last three days.

Sorry...

I don't read long and boring posts.

Under the Taliban, a couple who happen to love each other can be publically stoned to death infront of the community shows to us the deluded and evil intentions people have for our nation and people as a whole.

I hope more and more Pashtuns wake up and realise the seriously bad state our people are in.

By couple you mean a boy and a man?


Oh soo now Soldout Khamir is defending pedophilia ...


In any case...

I want to make it clear for the all the atheists. We Muslims are not making a big deal about the "age" but the "genders" of the love. It's boy-man, man-man that is classed as Sodomy. And sodomy is HARAM! An entire city of sodomites was destroy. In a country where Sodomy is the norm doom is for sure. (And hey..for all you know maybe its because of all this bachabazi and charsi bangis that Afghanistan is getting a taste of the wrath of Allah)

So all this gibberish about the "bride childs"...doesn't relate.

Put on your thinking hats atheists. Impress me!

[tor_khan]

as with other threads, there can only be non-interference on this matter. Others need to be informed to stop derailing the thread, and discuss the issues at hand in a civil manner.

In the future before one resorts to this breakdown and questioning, it would be wise to think very clearly about this

زما د پلار نیکه نه یی چې ما له د وچي حکم راکوی

[unknownprince]

While I disagree with the assertion that atheism leads to pedophilia, I find it very interesting that a follower of Mohammad would actually have a problem with that.... It seems that pedophilia is something that your religion should take fairly lightly, given it's history in your religion.

This is now twice on this thread that our the Prophet(pbuh) has been attacked.


Their reaction is very vile and can not be tolerated.

I request immediate attention to this matter

If they are unable to have a constructive debate about this well researched article, and they instead resort to this, action must be taken.

I have reported the post, and expect results as this is a violation of forum rules.

[graveyardofempires]

A fact is not a fact because it is popular. Reality does not care if people agree with it. We believe in reality, and systematically finding what structures reality. It's not important if you agree with that -- it's still a fact.

You are welcome to believe that we believe in 'falsehood', but I can scientifically prove you wrong in that claim, and not once will popularity matter.



See my last answer to this question.

you havent proven anythiung
all you do is avoid and say "hey cuz i say so"
this has nothing to do with science more with anti religion.

again

what is your purpose for being here?

[graveyardofempires]

زما د پلار نیکه نه یی چې ما له د وچي حکم راکوی

laliya
da kapirano la cha ejzala warkerey da che zemung paighambar tha spekaway wekey.

leg shaan insaaf wekey.

[unknownprince]

زما د پلار نیکه نه یی چې ما له د وچي حکم راکوی

The article is purely educational, and it is well researched.

Non-interference is requested unless you have a contribution to make to this discussion.

Otherwise, interruptions will only downgrade the discussion.

I have also alerted you to the insulting of our Prophet(pbuh) here with my reports. I think this is more urgent of you to take care of rather than question my intent which is 1) irrelevant and 2) very weak way of discussing forum rules, rules which have not been broken.

Your cooperation is appreciated

thanks

[Manzareh]

Unless you reject his actions, you do..

Sorry Sir, but your not anyware near qualified enough to give that statement out.

Not necessarily. There has not always been a huge disparity in age between men an women at marriage, and pedophilia is less of a concern when the age gap is small. We are talking here, were 50 year old (or older) men are marrying 7 year olds, or are sexually abusing 7 year olds, not 20 year old men marrying 16 year olds...

Oh yes they has always been a huge disparity in age between men and women, read some greek history, persian history, even amazonian/jungle middle age tribesmen take to child girls, Joseph was 90 years old when he married teenage Mary. right now you wouldnt think ov marrying a 10 year old but i bet if you were around about 2 thousand years ago you wouldnt even think twice about it, shy away from it as much as you want but thats the truth and youl agree if you have any knowledge of history which im sure you do.

[Manzareh]

The article is purely educational, and it is well researched.

Non-interference is requested unless you have a contribution to make to this discussion.

Otherwise, interruptions will only downgrade the discussion.

I have also alerted you to the insulting of our Prophet(pbuh) here with my reports. I think this is more urgent of you to take care of rather than question my intent which is 1) irrelevant and 2) very weak way of discussing forum rules, rules which have not been broken.

Your cooperation is appreciated

thanks

chill out, kala kala masharaan ta khaa owaya, ul get banned again.

[ozymandias]

Your dyslexia shows.



Sorry...

I don't read long and boring posts.




By couple you mean a boy and a man?


Oh soo now Soldout Khamir is defending pedophilia ...


In any case...

I want to make it clear for the all the atheists. We Muslims are not making a big deal about the "age" but the "genders" of the love. It's boy-man, man-man that is classed as Sodomy. And sodomy is HARAM! An entire city of sodomites was destroy. In a country where Sodomy is the norm doom is for sure. (And hey..for all you know maybe its because of all this bachabazi and charsi bangis that Afghanistan is getting a taste of the wrath of Allah)

So all this gibberish about the "bride childs"...doesn't relate.

Then you should leave the thread about pedophilia. Pedophilia is about *age* not *gender*. This thread is about the *AGE* of the people. Boy-man is just as much pedophilia as girl-man, and man-man is, well, not pedophilia.

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Put on your thinking hats atheists. Impress me![/QUOTE]

Huh? You are the one having trouble understanding this thread, and in need of a 'thinking hat', since you are being confused and talking homosexuality.

[ozymandias]

This is now twice on this thread that our the Prophet(pbuh) has been attacked.


Their reaction is very vile and can not be tolerated.

This is no more of an attack on the prophet than this thread is an attack on atheists.

I request immediate attention to this matter

If they are unable to have a constructive debate about this well researched article, and they instead resort to this, action must be taken.

I have reported the post, and expect results as this is a violation of forum rules.

I will abide by the admin's decision.

[ozymandias]

you havent proven anythiung
all you do is avoid and say "hey cuz i say so"

This is yet another lie.

this has nothing to do with science more with anti religion.

again

what is your purpose for being here?

Once again, already answered this question. See the link for a nice, long, complete answer.

[ozymandias]

Sorry Sir, but your not anyware near qualified enough to give that statement out.

Feel free to believe that. It is my understanding that all Muslim's respect Mohammad. I could be wrong, though.

Oh yes they has always been a huge disparity in age between men and women, read some greek history, persian history, even amazonian/jungle middle age tribesmen take to child girls, Joseph was 90 years old when he married teenage Mary.

This claim will also need to be discussed in another thread, as it is equally suspect historically.

right now you wouldnt think ov marrying a 10 year old but i bet if you were around about 2 thousand years ago you wouldnt even think twice about it, shy away from it as much as you want but thats the truth and youl agree if you have any knowledge of history which im sure you do.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say? Just because it was common makes it moral?