The Immorality of Child Abuse

[unknownprince]

The article is a factual one for educational purposes. Read it or do not read it.

There is no degradation of atheists or Christians/Jews/Hindus. These are mere facts, and there are also statistics in regards to child abuse and other crimes and their link to other faiths or atheism.

[IamDZJ]

Not really. You are wrong.

He is not posting porn or anything. He is posting an article for educational purposes. He has not broken any forum rules.

Turning a blind eye to an issue will not solve it.

you know jamaludeen it's a game for people like you, unknown and certain non muslims out there. you like to degrade each other by pulling out faults in human beings and then blaming it on their religions when it has nothing to do with their understanding of their religion and everything with their lack of it.
maybe instead of playing this game of exposing each other, you could focus on strengthening your own faith by practicing it during the time you waste over pointing fingers at each other. i don't see any difference in people of your type. all i know it that you bullshyt in the name of religion and as much of an obvious of a joke as your type has become, you still fail to realize it.

[JAMALUDEEN]

it's one thing to defend your religion and stand up for it and another to degrade someone else's religious views or the lack of it.. if we expect non muslims to understand our situation and not tolerate a self proclaimed catholic priest burning our holy book then we should also stand against people like unknown when he as a muslim chooses to use similar retarded tactics to degrade other people's religion or their view of it.

Following your logic.

We should as well stop going to university as they at times teach us things that are blasphemous..and we should take into to consideration what afghans in Pakistan and Afghanistan will think of us, when they find out what we learn in Universities in here.

It's called Adult Education, and if you do not have the heart then just ignore it. Reality is hard bro. I remember, we had a sociology student...and she was offended by the way our lecture said the name ..Emanuel Kant..The kant part. Funny thing was..she was going to become a social worker..dealing mostly with juveniles, crooks, and what not. No one else found his pronunciation offensive...

So should we stop learning about Emanuel Kant just because she found it offensive..or that someone might find it offensive...

[JAMALUDEEN]

you know jamaludeen it's a game for people like you, unknown and certain non muslims out there. you like to degrade each other by pulling out faults in human beings and then blaming it on their religions when it has nothing to do with their understanding of their religion and everything with their lack of it.
maybe instead of playing this game of exposing each other, you could focus on strengthening your own faith by practicing it during the time you waste over pointing fingers at each other. i don't see any difference in people of your type. all i know it that you bullshyt in the name of religion and as much of an obvious of a joke as your type has become, you still fail to realize it.

You have spent half of your life on a forum...the world outside is way different.. Just becuase you are safe and sound in your home doesn't mean these things don't exist. I'd rather be informed than be ignorant of the issue.

Your information on matters is as limited as ours..but atleast me, unknown and others are trying to seek further knowledge...

that is what life is..

you can choose to ignore things... it will just make your life miserable.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

how come pedophillia is prevalent amongst pashtuns. pashtuns are not an athiest community

can one of you two esteemed maulanas please explain this pedophilic phenomena amongst pashtuns?

[unknownprince]

another interesting and overlooked fact.


according to FBI 80% of pedophiles are nonhispanic white men - YouTube

[unknownprince]

how come pedophillia is prevalent amongst pashtuns. pashtuns are not an athiest community

can one of you two esteemed maulanas please explain this pedophilic phenomena amongst pashtuns?

that is actually propaganda.

Child abuse is mostly in Northern Afghanistan.. Bacha Bazi originates from the North. This is not to say that Pashtuns are not involved in it, but at the present stance, such people are usually killed by the religious types. <thats a fact.

It is due to child abuse and other crimes, that the Taliban are back.

Many of the Afghan National Army members are engaged in crimes such as child abuse


BUT, the discussion here is about atheists and pedophilia.

[IamDZJ]

Following your logic.

We should as well stop going to university as they at times teach us things that are blasphemous..and we should take into to consideration what afghans in Pakistan and Afghanistan will think of us, when they find out what we learn in Universities in here.

It's called Adult Education, and if you do not have the heart then just ignore it. Reality is hard bro. I remember, we had a sociology student...and she was offended by the way our lecture said the name ..Emanuel Kant..The kant part. Funny thing was..she was going to become a social worker..dealing mostly with juveniles, crooks, and what not. No one else found his pronunciation offensive...

So should we stop learning about Emanuel Kant just because she found it offensive..or that someone might find it offensive...

i wouldn't know what they teach in universities because i chose not to go to one for reasons very similar to what you mentioned in your first sentence. not being taught blasphemous things but having to compromise with learning stuff that i as an individual didn't necessarily believed in..and you know what brother jamaludin, i learned that education is to be taken with the mind not the heart. if you are blind and someone you don't trust, tells you that you are about to walk on a puddle of mud in front of you, you don't tell yourself that they are lying to you. (a) you wonder what will happen if there is an actual puddle in front of you and (b) you try to figure out what their motive behind telling you that lie might be.
your heart can very easily be manipulated but your mind can't.

and if you really believe in tolerating a concept (like an "adult") that is being taught to you in which you don't necessarily believe in then why do you have a problem with students being taught about evolution in a university that is geographically built on grounds of a non islamic state?

this subject is as appropriate and useful to us afghans and pashtuns as the subject of striping would be for a mullah to teach little children in a madrasa instead of verses of quraan.

[IamDZJ]

You have spent half of your life on a forum...the world outside is way different.. Just becuase you are safe and sound in your home doesn't mean these things don't exist. I'd rather be informed than be ignorant of the issue.

Your information on matters is as limited as ours..but atleast me, unknown and others are trying to seek further knowledge...

that is what life is..

you can choose to ignore things... it will just make your life miserable.

knowledge on what? pornography? i want to learn about pashtuns and as far as i know, this subject does not concern pashtuns.

wiping off propaganda with some more propaganda....you must think you are the noblest thing happening to islam and afghanistan out there...yeah right, you are just another piece of trash in the piles of pieces of trash out there, following on the footpaths of your forefathers, trashing and kicking islam and that country a few notches lower and closer to the gutter...

[JAMALUDEEN]

i wouldn't know what they teach in universities because i chose not to go to one for reasons very similar to what you mentioned in your first sentence. not being taught blasphemous things but having to compromise with learning stuff that i as an individual didn't necessarily believed in..and you know what brother jamaludin, i learned that education is to be taken with the mind not the heart. if you are blind and someone you don't trust, tells you that you are about to walk on a puddle of mud in front of you, you don't tell yourself that they are lying to you. (a) you wonder what will happen if there is an actual puddle in front of you and (b) you try to figure out what their motive behind telling you that lie might be.
your heart can very easily be manipulated but your mind can't.

and if you really believe in tolerating a concept (like an "adult") that is being taught to you in which you don't necessarily believe in then why do you have a problem with students being taught about evolution in a university that is geographically built on grounds of a non islamic state?

this subject is as appropriate and useful to us afghans and pashtuns as the subject of striping would be for a mullah to teach little children in a madrasa instead of verses of quraan.

Do you know the difference between Adult Education and Education in Schools? In schools, you have no choice but to attend all classes, study whatever they give you. attend PT classes and what.....whereas adult education is ..something that is up to the student...If the student finds something offensive, and walks off.. then no one will judge him.. but that doesn't mean.. a topic is going to be ignored all together just because one student finds it offensive.

Those students who walked off the lecture room because they didn't wish to learn evolution.. did it by their own choice.. maybe they didn't find it evolution ..or maybe they knew the whole theory already.. and that is what adult education is... you are not forced to learn anything...

You are comparing two different issues... Mullahs have nothing to do with this discussion...Pashtuns have nothing to do with this discussion..If you wish to discuss Mullahs and Pashtuns.. Please do create a thread..and everyone will discuss it accordingly. I also request Amir al Ghaznavi.. to stop trolling every thread, perhaps Tor Khan could summon him.

[JAMALUDEEN]

knowledge on what? pornography? i want to learn about pashtuns and as far as i know, this subject does not concern pashtuns.

wiping off propaganda with some more propaganda....you must think you are the noblest thing happening to islam and afghanistan out there...yeah right, you are just another piece of trash in the piles of pieces of trash out there, following on the footpaths of your forefathers, trashing and kicking islam and that country a few notches lower and closer to the gutter...

Your rant has nothing to do with this topic. I'm not a piece of trash, because I'm a human being..and Allah swt made me special..just like he made you special..with your own characteristics...personality...and other features...

It is because of my forefathers, that you can even call yourself Afghan. Thanks to them.

[IamDZJ]

adult knowledge and education in school? perhaps you have knowledge and wisdom confused for each other. let me try something else for your.

once upon a time there used to be a village called pashtun forums. in pashtun forums they had no electricity so no one had ever seen or heard of a refrigerator. (porn/bestiality)... then one day a man( khomeni looking maseed) came to pashtun forums and started talking about how once a long time ago he had this really yummy thing called an ice cappuccino (atheism). all the while this was happening there was this horrible flood (ignorance, poverty and crap like that..) that had been going on for years and years due to a dam(the war) that had erupted a long time ago and no matter how much the villagers tried to stop it, it would simply not stop. then one day one of the villagers (unknownprince) decided to go off and find manuals on how a refrigerator is built. he brought the manuals and distributed them amongst all the villagers and before you knew it, no one was even bothering to stop that flood anymore..because some idiot (that would be you by the way) had confused wisdom with knowledge and according to him, no matter how tough life gets, education is education..and if there is an refrigerator out there that actually exists, then the villagers have the right to know all about it...

i am going to go and read my book now.

[JAMALUDEEN]

adult knowledge and education in school? perhaps you have knowledge and wisdom confused for each other. let me try something else for your.

once upon a time there used to be a village called pashtun forums. in pashtun forums they had no electricity so no one had ever seen or heard of a refrigerator. (porn/bestiality)... then one day a man( khomeni looking maseed) came to pashtun forums and started talking about how once a long time ago he had this really yummy thing called an ice cappuccino (atheism). all the while this was happening there was this horrible flood (ignorance, poverty and crap like that..) that had been going on for years and years due to a dam(the war) that had erupted a long time ago and no matter how much the villagers tried to stop it, it would simply not stop. then one day one of the villagers (unknownprince) decided to go off and find manuals on how a refrigerator is built. he brought the manuals and distributed them amongst all the villagers and before you knew it, no one was even bothering to stop that flood anymore..because some idiot (that would be you by the way) had confused wisdom with knowledge and according to him, no matter how tough life gets, education is education..and if there is an refrigerator out there that actually exists, then the villagers have the right to know all about it...

i am going to go and read my book now.

This doesn't make sense... lay of the cuppachinos..for a while..and take some fish oil tablets..

Btw, I said Adult Education...and no where have i spoken about wisdom.. you are trying to save a face just like others who have been debating me.

You just like argue for the sake of arguing..and winning a debate.. not for the purpose of learning..and acquiring knowledge....

and no i haven't mistaken knowledge with wisdom... nice try... go read your book "How to debate Jamaludeen"

[Soldat_Amir]

You know what Admin Khana you have warned me on many occasions not to hurt peoples feelings on this section of the forum however it would be very nice of you to also review some of these threads that people post that not only misinforms others but is down right ludacris.

Now, the thread starter is claiming if you dont believe in god you will instantly be led to becoming a pedo.

Now, I could easily refute this by highlighting some Hadiths of Unknown own religion however I will give it a miss because I feel this thread is being used against me and other asthiests to bring up the topic of Ayesha marriage for which I do not want to indulge in because I know people will use it against me.

I will give it a pass I hope Tor Khan can take notice of this sudden trolling by Jamal and Unknown to get members banned by luring them into debates that stir emotional feelings of members.

Deera Manana

[tor_khan]

no he is not. i don't know why any pashtun in his right mind would find this subject appropriate for discussion. just imagine what our members living in afghanistan or pakistan must think of afghans and pashtuns living in abroad. this **** doesn't concern us in general as much as some other topics do so i would really appreciate it if unknownprince stopped flooding this forum with his research on porn and bestiality or rather kept that sort of information to himself. i highly doubt that people come here to read about stuff like that.
as soon as he starts posting, this platform becomes a ****ing zoo.

Thank you.