The Immorality of Child Abuse

[unknownprince]

Thank you.

this thread is an article which talks about the link between atheism (a lack of religion) and pedophilia. Atheists discuss what they want here. However, the article here is actually a well researched article that provides for a good read.

It is an article. If people have a problem with it, they should constructively debate it. Extensive research is shown here.

By the way could you please merge this http://www.pashtunforums.com/religio...le-porn-24430/

with this thread.

You can also add the other two threads I posted in this section to this one. There is a lot of research that links atheism to immorality. This is a fact.

Thanks

[Soldat_Amir]

Stoke-on-Trent Muslim sexual abuse cleric jailed

Mohammed Hanif Khan was "treated like a god" by boys in his care
Continue reading the main story Related Stories

• Imam guilty of sex abuse of boys
• Accused imam 'helped unruly boys'
• Imam 'assaulted boy in classroom'

A Muslim cleric who sexually assaulted two boys at a mosque in Stoke-on-Trent has been sentenced to 16 years in jail.
Mohammed Hanif Khan, 42, had denied charges of rape, attempted rape and sexual activity with a child.
A jury at Nottingham Crown Court found Khan, of Owler Lane, Sheffield, guilty of two counts of rape and one of sexual activity with a child.
The offences took place at the mosque on Capper Street between July and October 2009.
Khan, who was sentenced at Nottingham Crown Court, was told he will serve a minimum term of eight years.
'Like the Queen'
He had been the UK's first full-time Islamic minister at Dovegate Prison, near Uttoxeter.
During sentencing judge Mrs Justice Dobbs revealed he had resigned from this post over allegations he sexually harassed three female members of staff.
That showed Khan was a serious risk to the public, she said.
Justice Dobbs told Khan: "You were the imam and not only were you the boys' teacher you were the boys' guide.
Continue reading the main story “Start Quote

You were taken into the hearts of the community and treated like a god”

End Quote Mrs Justice Dobbs
"You were taken into the hearts of the community and treated like a god.
"One of the boys described you as being so big you were like the Queen.
"Your actions have had a significant effect on the community. The boys have been reviled by the community for bringing shame on the community."
'Suicidal thoughts'
Khan will be on the sex offenders' register for life and subject to a sex offenders' protection order.
During the trial prosecutor Tariq Bin Shakoor told the court one of the boys was often singled out by Khan after evening prayers.
The other boy was assaulted when he was an overnight guest at Khan's house, the jury heard.
Following the verdict on 1 February the family of one of Khan's victims said the boy isolated himself from friends and family and even wanted to end his life.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-12780538

[Elsii]

A person who likes pedophile porn is an athiest to begin with.

[graveyardofempires]

unknown you know ,only Pashtun and muslim bashing is allowd.

also we do not want to offend people who offend our whole nation on daily basis.
after all the agenda is to deislamise the pashtuns cuz that will lead to progression.

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Ok , so it proves that unknownprince and graveyardsofempires are BIG TROLLS, so DONT CARE what they said.

[Insaaf_انصاف]

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09-17-2011 :

By admin khan :

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Checkmate, Unknownprince (and his many other accounts) have been banned.

Reason:
Deteriorating forum quality with garbage posts this morning, and attacking members with racial slurs. Long story short, attacking a staff member isn't ever accepted. He was warned, but clearly he did not respect our warning. If anyone have any questions, feel free to privately contact us. "


SO NOW
Dont care what they are saying, they are TROLLS LOL

[Alchemist]

Good find chap...

I don't know why daJamzoo is getting her <EDITED> in a knot.
If this was about old men in afghanistan marrying little girls she would be writing the opposite. Instead her argument is - don't offend people who offend Allah. This is all a part of her assimiliation programming in a western world. Here homosexuality is the same as heterosexuality. And homosexuals have feelings too!

This article is a blow to the arguments of atheists on this forum who have been saying all the while that atheists do not lack morals.
Now the priests of atheists, scientists and doctors, are writing "manifestos" that declare their ammorality.
And what does Soldout khamir threaten us with? The marriage of Aisha (radiallahanha)? You don't have any moral grounds to say anything about that marriage when your own atheism deems the marriage "consequentially" appropriate! In another 10 years pedophilia will be accepted in this society just like homosexuality is. NAMBLA (North American man boy love association) has been around for decades!

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Once again will the maulanas of this forum speak to the issue of pedophilia amongst the pashtun community, which as has been reiterated many times, is not an athiest community?

Perhaps unknownprince you assume the Amir is a stupid man who will accept your arguments that bachaa bazi is a northern Afghan phenomena, we all know that is simply not true

Can you also sPeak to how repressed sexuality in our part of the world leads to homosexual behaviour (prison syndrome)?

By no means am i indicating that athiest or secular societies are completely moral, i am asking for the same ridicolous assumptions and generalizations to be equally applied

Also alchemist, the difference between pedophilia and homosexuals is very clear, as clear as night and day. The latter is based on consent by two adults whereas the former is predatory as the child is clearly incapable of understanding the consequences of his/her decision

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Yahoo! Canada News

Toronto imam faces sex assault charges
CBC - Wed, 17 Aug, 2011

[کیش]

The Atheists are getting insecure.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Nah homie we dont need to threaten people for their views, or launch character assaults because we re threatened by the beliefs of others

[JAMALUDEEN]

Once again will the maulanas of this forum speak to the issue of pedophilia amongst the pashtun community, which as has been reiterated many times, is not an athiest community?

Perhaps unknownprince you assume the Amir is a stupid man who will accept your arguments that bachaa bazi is a northern Afghan phenomena, we all know that is simply not true

Can you also sPeak to how repressed sexuality in our part of the world leads to homosexual behaviour (prison syndrome)?

By no means am i indicating that athiest or secular societies are completely moral, i am asking for the same ridicolous assumptions and generalizations to be equally applied

Also alchemist, the difference between pedophilia and homosexuals is very clear, as clear as night and day. The latter is based on consent by two adults whereas the former is predatory as the child is clearly incapable of understanding the consequences of his/her decision

Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse

An interesting report.. on homosexuality linking it with pedophilia...proving the amir wrong..

MALE HOMOSEXUALS COMMIT A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF CHILD SEX ABUSE CASES

Homosexual apologists admit that some homosexuals sexually molest children, but they deny that homosexuals are more likely to commit such offenses. After all, they argue, the majority of child molestation cases are heterosexual in nature. While this is correct in terms of absolute numbers, this argument ignores the fact that homosexuals comprise only a very small percentage of the population.

The evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls. To demonstrate this it is necessary to connect several statistics related to the problem of child sex abuse: 1) men are almost always the perpetrator; 2) up to one-third or more of child sex abuse cases are committed against boys; 3) less than three percent of the population are homosexuals. Thus, a tiny percentage of the population (homosexual men), commit one-third or more of the cases of child sexual molestation.
Men Account for Almost All Sexual Abuse of Children Cases

· An essay on adult sex offenders in the book Sexual Offending Against Children reported:"It is widely believed that the vast majority of sexual abuse is perpetrated by males and that female sex offenders only account for a tiny proportion of offences. Indeed, with 3,000 adult male sex offenders in prison in England and Wales at any one time, the corresponding figure for female sex offenders is 12!"[1]

· Kee MacFarlane, et al., writing in Sexual Abuse of Young Children: Evaluation and Treatment report:"The large majority of sexual perpetrators appear to be males (Herman and Hirschman, 1981; Lindholm and Willey, 1983)."[2]

· A report by the American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children states: "In both clinical and non-clinical samples, the vast majority of offenders are male."[3]

· A study in the Journal of Sex Research states that "pedophilia does not exist, or is extremely rare, in women."[4]

A Significant Percentage of Child Sexual Abuse Victims are Boys

· According to the Journal of Child Psychiatry: "It was commonly believed fifteen years ago that girls were abused in excess of boys in a ratio of about 9 to 1, but contemporary studies now indicate that the ratio of girls to boys abused has narrowed remarkably. . . . The majority of community studies suggest a . . . ratio . . . in the order of 2 to 4 girls to 1 boy."[5] Another study found that "some authors now believe that boys may be sexually abused as commonly as girls (Groth, 1978; O'Brien, 1980)."[6]

· A study of 457 male sex offenders against children in Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy found that "approximately one-third of these sexual offenders directed their sexual activity against males."[7]
Sexual Abuse of Boys is Underreported

The actual percentage of child sexual abuse victims who are boys very likely exceeds the above estimates. Many researchers echo the view of the Journal of Child Psychiatry study, which refers to the "under-reporting of the incidence and prevalence of sexual abuse in boys."[8]

· Dr. Robert Johnson, in Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, reports: "The vast majority of cases of male sexual molestation is not reported. As a result, these young men keep both the incidents and their feelings to themselves."[9]

· The Department of Justice report on child sexual exploitation explains why the percentage of boy victims is underestimated: "Adolescent boy victims are highly likely to deny certain types of sexual activity. . . . They are embarrassed and ashamed of their behavior and rightfully believe that society will not understand their victimization. . . . No matter what the investigator does, most adolescent boys will deny they were victims."[10]

· The Journal of Child Psychiatry adds: "Boys are usually encultured into an ethos where self-reliance, independence and sexual prowess are valued, while showing hurt or homosexuality are denigrated. . . . This may lead to powerful repression or deletion of the experience, with failure to report."[11]
Homosexuals Comprise Less than 3 Percent of the Population

· Relying upon three large data sets: the General Social Survey, the National Health and Social Life Survey, and the U.S. census, a recent study in Demography estimates the number of exclusive male homosexuals in the general population at 2.5 percent, and the number of exclusive lesbians at 1.4 percent.[12]

· A study of the sexual behavior of men in the United States based on the National Survey of Men (a nationally representative sample comprised of 3,321 men aged twenty to thirty-nine, published in Family Planning Perspectives), found that "2 percent of sexually active men aged twenty to thirty-nine . . . had had any same-gender sexual activity during the last ten years. Approximately 1 percent of the men (1.3 percent among whites and 0.2 percent among blacks) reported having had exclusively homosexual activity.[13]

· J. Gordon Muir, writing in The Wall Street Journal, discusses a number of studies that have found that homosexuals comprise between 1 to 3 percent of the population.[14]

· In a survey of studies on homosexuals in different populations, the Archives of Sexual Behavior reported a random sample of Hawaii State residents interviewed by telephone. The study found "just about 3 percent of males and 1.2 percent of females as having engaged in same-sex or bisexual activity."[15] However, this relatively higher number is attributed to the fact that the study was not limited to exclusive homosexuals, but included all those who at some time in their lives engaged in same-sex activities.[16]
Homosexual Pedophiles are Vastly Overrepresented in Child Sex Abuse Cases

Homosexual pedophiles sexually molest children at a far greater rate compared to the percentage of homosexuals in the general population. A study in the Journal of Sex Research found, as we have noted above, that "approximately one-third of [child sex offenders] had victimized boys and two-thirds had victimized girls." The authors then make a prescient observation: "Interestingly, this ratio differs substantially from the ratio of gynephiles (men who erotically prefer physically mature females) to androphiles (men who erotically prefer physically mature males), which is at least 20 to 1."[17]

[Insaaf_انصاف]

Once again ,
People, please report these threads because :


People, Go Check the thread " Ban notifications " thread
And you WILL SEE , how graveyard and unknownprince are TROLLLS



09-17-2011 :

By admin khan :

"
Member:
Checkmate, Unknownprince (and his many other accounts) have been banned.

Reason:
Deteriorating forum quality with garbage posts this morning, and attacking members with racial slurs. Long story short, attacking a staff member isn't ever accepted. He was warned, but clearly he did not respect our warning. If anyone have any questions, feel free to privately contact us. "



Dont care what they are saying, they are TROLLS LOL

[Alchemist]

Once again will the maulanas of this forum speak to the issue of pedophilia amongst the pashtun community, which as has been reiterated many times, is not an athiest community?

Perhaps unknownprince you assume the Amir is a stupid man who will accept your arguments that bachaa bazi is a northern Afghan phenomena, we all know that is simply not true

The bacha baz are also atheists.

Surely the Amir is not implying that the bacha baz are God conscious people that pray fives a day, give charity and obey Allah?

Can you also sPeak to how repressed sexuality in our part of the world leads to homosexual behaviour (prison syndrome)?

is there gay parade in mecca? Is there church street in Afghanistan?

By no means am i indicating that athiest or secular societies are completely moral, i am asking for the same ridicolous assumptions and generalizations to be equally applied

Also alchemist, the difference between pedophilia and homosexuals is very clear, as clear as night and day. The latter is based on consent by two adults whereas the former is predatory as the child is clearly incapable of understanding the consequences of his/her decision

What consequences?


No srsly...what consequences?

According to the atheist professor consequences are good if you think they are good, and bad if you feel that they are bad. If the child thinks they are good than they are good. How are the consequences different from a child to an adult?

[Insaaf_انصاف]

Stop trolling, unknownprince , we all know that you are graveyard, jamaludeen, alchemist etc...

"Checkmate, Unknownprince (and his many other accounts) have been banned. "

By Admin khan , in ban notifications, 09-17-11