christianity...?

[faye]

or is it all just an illusion?

[SUMMERLOVE]

Do cows eat grass?

[faye]

in my manifestation, yes they do. in yours?

[SUMMERLOVE]

In mine they put their left leg in their right leg out and shake it all about. Then I again I do live on earth unlike you.

[faye]

really? how boring, you poor chappie. my dimension is fabo. pop over, be my guest.

[SUMMERLOVE]

I dont fancy sitting under a bridge somewhere in Darwin drinking cheap cider and picking up cigarette butts. I stay in my dimension for now, feel free not to pop round anytime soon.

[faye]

darling, are you still picking up ciggy butts?
in my reality darwin is too darned hot. a tipi in nimbin is cool. bring your own headress.

[SUMMERLOVE]

I'll think I'll pass, I'm toilet training the piglets.

[faye]

nice....i envy you.

[Afghanistan2010]

each to his own.
my creator is not a grumpy snob who looks down upon creation nor curses

Of course,God ( Allah ) does not curse and ruin people except for that they have ruined themselves and took upon themselves the curse of Allah.

Allah the most high says :

6:4
And no sign comes to them from the signs of their Lord except that they turn away therefrom.

6:5

For they had denied the truth when it came to them, but there is going to reach them the news of what they used to ridicule.

6:6

Have they not seen how many generations We destroyed before them which We had established upon the earth as We have not established you? And We sent [rain from] the sky upon them in showers and made rivers flow beneath them; then We destroyed them for their sins and brought forth after them a generation of others.

6:7

And even if We had sent down to you, [O Muhammad], a written scripture on a page and they touched it with their hands, the disbelievers would say, "This is not but obvious magic."

6:8

And they say, "Why was there not sent down to him an angel?" But if We had sent down an angel, the matter would have been decided; then they would not be reprieved.

6:9

And if We had made him an angel, We would have made him [appear as] a man, and We would have covered them with that in which they cover themselves.

6:10

And already were messengers ridiculed before you, but those who mocked them were enveloped by that which they used to ridicule.

6:11

Say, "Travel through the land; then observe how was the end of the deniers."

6:12

Say, "To whom belongs whatever is in the heavens and earth?" Say, "To Allah ." He has decreed upon Himself mercy. He will surely assemble you for the Day of Resurrection, about which there is no doubt. Those who will lose themselves [that Day] do not believe.

6:13

And to Him belongs that which reposes by night and by day, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing.

6:14

Say, "Is it other than Allah I should take as a protector, Creator of the heavens and the earth, while it is He who feeds and is not fed?" Say, [O Muhammad], "Indeed, I have been commanded to be the first [among you] who submit [to Allah ] and [was commanded], 'Do not ever be of the polytheists.' "

[Afghanistan2010]

wants it to be afraid of it's originator.
the creator i believe in is everywhere, is everything..all the time;-)

What is meant being afraid or to fear Allah the most high,in islam it means being conscious about Allah the most high and his borders which he has set up.
And Allah says: “It is only those who have knowledge among Allah's servants who fear Him.” [ Sûrah Fâtir : 28]

Ibn Mas`ûd explained what it means to fear Allah as He ought to be feared by saying: “It means that He is to be obeyed not disobeyed, remembered not forgotten, and shown gratitude not ingratitude.”

And indeed the fear or being afraid of Allah means : As if you love someone and you fear that he might be angry by doing certain things.


How can God be everything and everywhere,when he created the time,the space,how he can be that which is created , how can he remain God when he is in need of food,dies,be a human,or be an animal, is God not the most high and the most powerful and the most knowledgeable how can God lower himself,when he is the King of the Kings,and how can one be God when he resembles something else,but God is uncreated he is the living the most forgiving,the most merciful and nothing resembles him.

Allah says in the Quran : that those who don't believe say : Why are not the angels sent down to us, or why do we not see our Lord?" Indeed they think too highly of themselves, and are scornful with great pride. S. 25:20-21

[faye]

what i don't understand, is why you can't explain your beliefs in your own words. you must have been learning your religion since young but you need quotes from the qu'ran or youtubes to explain what you believe.
i think some of you young folk have been growing up online and actually have lost the use of your own brain or haven't used it in the first place.
one has to contemplate, not just copy or quote, so you know yourself and your beliefs from personal actualisation and realisation.

[Afghanistan2010]

I have read these verses and i have the understanding that they are the shortest expressions for the widest meanings.

I did not got my understanding from someone,i got my understanding from the Quran and the authentic sayings of the Prophet (pbuh) and the meaning of these very verses by those who were present with the Prophet (pbuh) and the knowledge that the scholars gathered to share it with us with easy understanding.

[faye]

after that failed lobotomy lol, there aint much you can teach me.

[Afghanistan2010]

hitting on shattered drums,doesn't make any sense
and this resembles you,we could speak for weeks to you it will change nothing.