Ask an American, agnostic and atheist man pretty much anything

[ozymandias]

are you racist?

No. Are you?

[goblin]

no

i am sorry i dont know why i wrote that.

[graveyardofempires]

why arent you racist?

[goblin]

^ good question. i am not racist because i am a goblin. we do not have races. but i hate them gay little elves though.

[graveyardofempires]

^
ok

[ozymandias]

no

i am sorry i dont know why i wrote that.

It's a fair question.

[ozymandias]

why arent you racist?

Personally, I'm not racist, because I would rather judge a man on the color of his character, than the color of his skin. The color of his skin is not a very accurate predictor of character. Racism is a form of stereotyping -- only what you are stereotyping is not some self selected quality, but an involuntary one.

[Alchemist]

Anyone mind if I turn the tables for a second? What are people's opinions on murdering apostates? This article recently showed up on one of my RSS feeds:
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Since according to you morals aren't universal, then you don't have the right to judge what is wrong and what is right. It's all relative. So if in their culture killing apostates is the right thing to do ...then it is the right to do ...and you should accept that...if you don't ...then you are a confused hypocrite.

[ozymandias]

Since according to you morals aren't universal, then you don't have the right to judge what is wrong and what is right. It's all relative. So if in their culture killing apostates is the right thing to do ...then it is the right to do ...and you should accept that...if you don't ...then you are a confused hypocrite.

Not true at all. Morals can be defined without the need for an absolute reference point. My morals are defined off of not infringing upon the rights of others. All humans have the right to choose their own religion -- or lack of religion, and it is infringing upon their rights to impose upon them, through the threat of violence, a religion.

It's surprising to me that you need to have this explained to you this seems to be a fairly obvious fact.

[shehazadi]

What evidence do you have that God does not exist? What do you think of the billions who follow God?

[ozymandias]

What evidence do you have that God does not exist?

Exactly as much as the believers have that one does exist -- none. I simply see no evidence to believe, so I don't. The extraordinary claims that one does exist would require extraordinary evidence to justify. What once required a god to explain, such as storms, death, earthquakes, and volcanoes can be explained without a god -- so I don't have one.

What do you think of the billions who follow God?

I have a hard time generalizing, especially on that scale. I have met faithful that were good, honest people, who were very intelligent, but still believed in a god. On the other hand, I have met rationalists that were every bit as good, and smart, without a god. I have seen horrible things done in the name of religion, and I have seen wonderful things done in the name of religion.

I find it near impossible to judge the billions who believe based simply on the fact that they believe. Look at this forum, and you can see what I mean. There are kindly, educated people on both sides of the issue -- and there are despicable people as well, who are full of hate and fear for the non-believers.

Believers come in all varieties.

[al-arab]

What is this? A American insulting Islam?

You americans are evil imperialists. You attack Iraq and did not show any respect, killing civilians, destroying our ancient culture. You are a disgrace to the world. Now you do the same in Afghanistan and you wonder why we hate america? You just wanted Iraqi oil.

[nigga]

^ very well said al arab.


ozymandias, i want to ask you about the masonic/satanic agenda of you and your jewish collaborators.

[ozymandias]

What is this?

An attempt for me to knock down stereotypes Americans hold of you, and you hold of Americans.

A American insulting Islam?

That is by no means my intention, however it appears that some people are offended by my existence, or the fact that I do not believe what they believe.

Please accept my apologies if that is the case. I am not intending to offend, and hope you are willing to look past that and come to know me, and that I mean well.

You americans are evil imperialists. You attack Iraq and did not show any respect, killing civilians, destroying our ancient culture. You are a disgrace to the world.

I'm sorry you feel that way, and would like to have you get to know me, so you can see that not all Americans fit your stereotype.

Now you do the same in Afghanistan and you wonder why we hate america?

Nope. I don't wonder. I am fairly confident that the Middle East hates us because of poor political decisions, as well as fear and hate mongering by our respective news sources.

Ideally, since we are talking to each other, and there is no media or government with an agenda putting spin on our conversations, we can come to learn about each other.

You just wanted Iraqi oil.

That may be true for some of the politicians, but the common person just wanted peace and safety. The US government might have had a motive involving oil, but even they knew that would not be enough to convince the common citizen, and they tried to spin it into a War on Terror -- fighting extremists that were going to stop at nothing to harm Americans. While this is true (to some extent), they needed to drum up support by painting Islam in a negative picture -- and it worked.

Shamefully many Americans fell for the spin -- which is only causing the more violent in your faith to lash back. I am trying to break that cycle, in some small way. I want to learn about you, and who you really are, so I don't HAVE to accept the news and government reports as my only interaction with a culture on the other side of the world.

I hope, as well, that by getting to know me, you I can have an impact as well - and show you that there are many Americans that do not fit your stereotype, and are not the evil you accuse us of being.

[ozymandias]

^ very well said al arab.


ozymandias, i want to ask you about the masonic/satanic agenda of you and your jewish collaborators.

You may ask anything you want, but unfortunately, I do not have any Jewish collaborators -- unless one of the forum members that messaged me and asked me to either post here initially, or to return are Jewish. I assume that they are not, but I am not sure.

As for a masonic agenda, if there is one, I am more in the dark about it than you, as I have never seen any realistic evidence that it exists.

As for a satanic agenda, I don't believe in Satan any more than I believe in any other supernatural being. I no more support the satanic agenda than I do the Islamic one, the Christian one, the Hindi one, or the Buddhist one -- not at all.

Once again, feel free to ask anything, but I confess to being in the dark on this topic and cannot really answer much about it.