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  • #31
    Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
    once again your ego is inflating to bigger and bigger proportions... read the rabbinc defination of what a jew is... one can only be classed a jew if the mother is a jew... hence male jews who marry out wld be a disaster for them as their kids aint jewish...
    again u have no proof other than my cousin said he is a decenmdent... news flash.... SO DOES EVERY1 ELSE WHO WANTS 2 SHOW THAT THEY ARE SOMEHOW SPECIAL.... and dont even begin talking abt succesion esp whn u hardly have a grasp of knowledge on topics such as the events of saqifa, the hadith of the 12 emirs and gahdir kawm! Fact is there are probably decendents but it isnt u or ur cousin!
    Its a bit like those Bollywood actors and punjabies who claim they are of pashtun decent when in fact they are not
    you didn't go to see the doctor did you

    listen you fool if you have a grandfather(or an older ancestor) who is a jew and the rest isn't it's still a faqt that you are a descendant of a jew even if your not (considered) a jew or most of your family aren't jews

    you talk so high and mighty but your knowledge is internet based
    you have only reed the shia side read the sunni side as well

    i have never claimed that i a'm an descendant of the prophet
    my cousins have a family tree as proof of being descendant of the prophet
    i have told you this before

    i know that dilip kumar/yusuf khan and kader khan are real pashtuns don't know about the rest
    Last edited by Guest; 10-26-2010, 04:42 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by abdul View Post
      you didn't go to see the doctor did you

      listen you fool if you have a grandfather(or an older ancestor) who is a jew and the rest isn't it's still a faqt that you are a descendant of a jew even if your not (considered) a jew or most of your family aren't jews

      you talk so high and mighty but your knowledge is internet based
      you have only reed the shia side read the sunni side as well

      i have never claimed that i a'm an descendant of the prophet
      my cousins have a family tree as proof of being descendant of the prophet
      i have told you this before

      i know that dilip kumar/yusuf khan and kader khan are real pashtuns don't know about the rest
      Loool FYI I am a Dr... and I think its u who needs the psychiatric input... sure ur cousin is a decendent because he says he is... sure sure.. if it makes u feel better... same 2 all the other wannabes.... its obvious ur a deluded as ur cousin ... keep dreaming again u dnt knw anything... read the talmund u idiot 2 see who is a and who isnt a jew thats if u even knw what the talmund is!
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
        Loool FYI I am a Dr... and I think its u who needs the psychiatric input... sure ur cousin is a decendent because he says he is... sure sure.. if it makes u feel better... same 2 all the other wannabes.... its obvious ur a deluded as ur cousin ... keep dreaming again u dnt knw anything... read the talmund u idiot 2 see who is a and who isnt a jew thats if u even knw what the talmund is!
        yeah right in you your dreams or maybe a low educated doctor in pakistan or afghanistan

        every time you keep forgeting about the family tree

        having a jewish mother gives you a free pass
        but even if you have no jewish ancestors you still can become a jew
        you speak of the talmud
        have you reed the talmud yourself?
        do you know how big it is?

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        • #34
          ahahahahhaa MORON.... I live in the UK.... sure your cousin is decended from the prophet... gradniose delusions if ever I saw them... lol get the D2 receptor antagonists out!

          PEOPLE CAN FAKE THE FAMILY TREE or are u 2 retarded 2 figure that out??????
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
            ahahahahhaa MORON.... I live in the UK.... sure your cousin is decended from the prophet... gradniose delusions if ever I saw them... lol get the D2 receptor antagonists out!

            PEOPLE CAN FAKE THE FAMILY TREE or are u 2 retarded 2 figure that out??????
            you might be in the uk but your diploma is from pakistan or afghanistan

            not everyone is like you to fake their papers

            Last edited by Guest; 10-27-2010, 06:21 PM.

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            • #36
              Silence from Dr Dreamer
              has greeted the Forum, as of so far...

              Abdul, that's a cute avatar. Is the circle meant to show he's dreaming that he's a line-up of .... lions? tigers? what are they?!

              About descendants of the Prophet [pbuh] traveling up the Silk Road, well there's the example of, to the Shias, Imam Reza, who went from the Abbasid Baghdad court all the way to Khorasan, and beyond maybe. The Caliph Mamun wanted him to accompany him, and that Caliph traveled to Merv, Turkmenistan. Whether Ali al-Ridha went with him that far, I'm not sure.
              But we know he was poisoned by that Caliph by means of grapes in Tus, near modern Mashhad.

              So for sure those descendants traveled quite far from the Ommayad or Abbasid capitals of Damascus and Baghdad.

              Just thought I would throw that in.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by abdul View Post
                you might be in the uk but your diploma is from pakistan or afghanistan

                not everyone is like you to fake their papers

                hahahaha Sorry moron but I was born and raised in the UK and I studied in a London medical school.... Ill leave the faking of family trees to you and your family
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                • #38
                  hey abdul I knw a bengali who says hes a pashtun.... I mean he has the family tree and all shall we believe him 2????? LOOOOOOOOOOL

                  But hey believe what u want... if it makes u sleep easier....
                  Last edited by Dreamer; 10-28-2010, 05:56 PM.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                    hahahaha Sorry moron but I was born and raised in the UK and I studied in a London medical school.... Ill leave the faking of family trees to you and your family
                    your the moron here if you had studied in london you would have known that the jews in india weren't inbreading

                    you would have know that even if one of your ancestors is a jew or an arab then you can be called a descendant of a jew or arab

                    it has been shown by dna that someone in europe can be related to someone in the middle east

                    so if they can be related why not one person of the middle east to another of the middle east

                    what have you studied in london?

                    the eight imam came to khorasan and stayed there for 2 or 4 years
                    if he could why not any other descendant's

                    Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                    hey abdul I knw a bengali who says hes a pashtun.... I mean he has the family tree and all shall we believe him 2????? LOOOOOOOOOOL

                    But hey believe what u want... if it makes u sleep easier....
                    yes if he can proof it
                    and don't say that pashtuns haven't been there
                    look at the lodi dynasty

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                    • #40
                      LOOOOOOL..... oh dude... uve made my day really u have....
                      keep believing
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                      • #41
                        Abdul, may allah guide you! You ruined this thread with your nonsense about your jewish roots.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Catya Sher View Post
                          Silence from Dr Dreamer
                          has greeted the Forum, as of so far...

                          Abdul, that's a cute avatar. Is the circle meant to show he's dreaming that he's a line-up of .... lions? tigers? what are they?!

                          About descendants of the Prophet [pbuh] traveling up the Silk Road, well there's the example of, to the Shias, Imam Reza, who went from the Abbasid Baghdad court all the way to Khorasan, and beyond maybe. The Caliph Mamun wanted him to accompany him, and that Caliph traveled to Merv, Turkmenistan. Whether Ali al-Ridha went with him that far, I'm not sure.
                          But we know he was poisoned by that Caliph by means of grapes in Tus, near modern Mashhad.

                          So for sure those descendants traveled quite far from the Ommayad or Abbasid capitals of Damascus and Baghdad.

                          Just thought I would throw that in.
                          here is the full image
                          the circle is the sniper scope he is aiming for dogs

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
                            Abdul, may allah guide you! You ruined this thread with your nonsense about your jewish roots.
                            read the pashtunwali there you will find laws identical to the old jewish laws
                            and i'm not saying that all pashtuns are related to the jews but a small percentage
                            it would be a lie if i said that none of the pashtuns are related to jews
                            hiding things about history is wrong you should know that brother

                            and if you had reed your own thread you should have seen that it was unknown prince that started about the jewish roots

                            ps your thread is not ruined
                            this topic doesn't need a discussion the you tube files is more than enough to show that there is something wrong about the sufi
                            Last edited by Guest; 10-28-2010, 07:37 PM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by abdul View Post
                              read the pashtunwali there you will find laws identical to the old jewish laws
                              and i'm not saying that all pashtuns are related to the jews but a small percentage
                              it would be a lie if i said that none of the pashtuns are related to jews
                              hiding things about history is wrong you should know that brother

                              and if you had reed your own thread you should have seen that it was unknown prince that started about the jewish roots

                              Pashtunwali is not a written law. Besides, we have many similar customs and our code of ethics is quite similar to the Chechen code of ethics. And the Bedouin tribes of Arabia and the nomadic tribes of North Africa have allot of similarities.

                              In cultural anthropology a mere resemble of ethics and customs does not provide sufficient evidence to prove relationships.

                              It's just wishful thinking and boastfulness among us that makes us believe we are either related to the prophets or we are Aryan superior nation or whatever.

                              This is a useless topic to debate about. It doesn't benefit us at all.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
                                Pashtunwali is not a written law. Besides, we have many similar customs and our code of ethics is quite similar to the Chechen code of ethics. And the Bedouin tribes of Arabia and the nomadic tribes of North Africa have allot of similarities.

                                In cultural anthropology a mere resemble of ethics and customs does not provide sufficient evidence to prove relationships.

                                It's just wishful thinking and boastfulness among us that makes us believe we are either related to the prophets or we are Aryan superior nation or whatever.

                                This is a useless topic to debate about. It doesn't benefit us at all.
                                are you people really this arrogant

                                first of all i don't believe in aryan superiority or any other kind of superiority
                                anyone claiming that are stupid and wants to divide people

                                secondly i want to know why you people think that it is impossible that a small percentage of the pashtun can be related to the prophet or anyone else
                                do you you people think we're some kind of pure race?
                                or don't you people like the idea that there are people from other origins
                                Last edited by Guest; 10-29-2010, 11:22 AM.

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