To accept Islam

[Dust]

Is believing that Allah is One and Muhammad is His messenger enough? Or is there more?

[Dust]

Please elaborate.

[Haider Bangash 2.0]

Is believing that Allah is One and Muhammad is His messenger enough? Or is there more?

Technically speaking, yes. That's all you need.

[Dust]

@jasmine

That is understood. I plan on following it in letter and in spirit. Do I have to be part of any group or sect, that is what I am asking?

[Dust]

^I like your answer.

Which sect would you recommend, is there a sect that teaches tolerance? I believe that real spiritual progress can only be made with tolerance.

[Fahd]

yes u must first say from ur heart
ashahdo ana la elah ella allah wa anna mohhemed rasul allah
then u must learn how to pray and evry thing ......
about sunni shiite .....
muslim was sunni no one was shiite or this **** they all talking about this day's
shiite doing things more bad than could be muslims
they in**** propht mohammed friends
Companions
abu bakur - omer bn alkhtab ...... aisha propht wife and .......
how the hell they could be muslims ???
ahamdi
LOL those are relly prinewishe more than any one in this earth
who made this said he's propht and al maseeh and aldajal ???
hahaha
can u belive this minds ????

sunni have groups
hanafi
shafei
maliki
hanbali
those are the most 4 impotmant and famous of all other groups
the diffrent in this groups about how they understand this things and they take all things from quran then hadith
hope u understand me

[Dust]

yes u must first say from ur heart
ashahdo ana la elah ella allah wa anna mohhemed rasul allah
then u must learn how to pray and evry thing ......
about sunni shiite .....
muslim was sunni no one was shiite or this **** they all talking about this day's
shiite doing things more bad than could be muslims
they in**** propht mohammed friends
Companions
abu bakur - omer bn alkhtab ...... aisha propht wife and .......
how the hell they could be muslims ???
ahamdi
LOL those are relly prinewishe more than any one in this earth
who made this said he's propht and al maseeh and aldajal ???
hahaha
can u belive this minds ????

sunni have groups
hanafi
shafei
maliki
hanbali
those are the most 4 impotmant and famous of all other groups
the diffrent in this groups about how they understand this things and they take all things from quran then hadith
hope u understand me

It's hard to fully comprehend what you say, but I do get the gist of it.

So, in other words, you must accept a sect, correct?

[Dust]

Dust do you have any other questions?

Well, I believe that you must belong to a sect or a group. Islam is a very rich concept; and, for there to be an absence of organization is totally absurd. It would render Islam nullified.

I believe that there must be authority, hence a sect or a group.

Most of the people on this forum are so intolerant towards one another. There must be a group that is tolerant due to its organizational structure.

The search continues, until then we'll just keep inquiring.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Well, I believe that you must belong to a sect or a group. Islam is a very rich concept; and, for there to be an absence of organization is totally absurd. It would render Islam nullified.

I believe that there must be authority, hence a sect or a group.

Most of the people on this forum are so intolerant towards one another. There must be a group that is tolerant due to its organizational structure.

The search continues, until then we'll just keep inquiring.

Instead of using a random forum with a bunch of random people with no qualification what so ever on Islam, why dont you go and contact proper Islamic institutions where scholars can give you answers. Today you can email practically anybody.

You said earlier in another thread that you are a scholar yourself. And that you have thoroughly studied Quran.

yet you ask questions like the one you aksed in the beginning of this thread.

Sects are not created to have a system of authority or organization.

Sects have emerged after later generations of Muslims became arrogant and claimed to know better than the early generations. As a result you have people who are mixing Zoroastrianism, Aristotelian metaphysics, Hinduism, Bhuddism, Mills Utilitarianism etc into Islam claiming they are wise and knowledgeable and moderate. And reject clear and unquestionable quranic verses that contradict their innovations.

[Dust]

The innate quality of a scholar is that he asks questions.

You seem to know the answer to everything, so why are you bothered by questions?

Now with respect to what you are trying to communicate:

Sects are not created to have a system of authority or organization.

Sects have emerged after later generations of Muslims became arrogant and claimed to know better than the early generations. As a result you have people who are mixing Zoroastrianism, Aristotelian metaphysics, Hinduism, Bhuddism, Mills Utilitarianism etc into Islam claiming they are wise and knowledgeable and moderate. And reject clear and unquestionable quranic verses that contradict their innovations.

Instead of putting all of your ideas in a blender and expect me to decipher what you have said, be more coherent and articulate your ideas. Otherwise, it seems to me that you have no clue yourself of what you are saying.

So, let us try this again:

What group within Islam best represents the depth of Islam, and on the same token is able to protect the beliefs of others, the reasons for which Muslims fought to establish their ideological rights in the first place?

[abubaker]

yqadhi@gmail.com

rather then asking laymen why don't you send him an email, scholar to scholar.

[abubaker]

The only group that has liberated Islam is Ahmadis. They have won the 1st nobel prize for Islam and they constructed 3 mosques where I live. Funny how its a Bengali imam who is in charge not even there own people. They are also demonized for no reason.

but ya,to be a Muslim, you have to recite a sentence.

by denying and prohibiting jihad

[Haider Bangash 2.0]

Well, I believe that you must belong to a sect or a group. Islam is a very rich concept; and, for there to be an absence of organization is totally absurd. It would render Islam nullified.

I believe that there must be authority, hence a sect or a group.

Most of the people on this forum are so intolerant towards one another. There must be a group that is tolerant due to its organizational structure.

The search continues, until then we'll just keep inquiring.

Al-Islam.org by the Ahlul Bayt DILP - Home I personally would recommend you to visit this site, and click on "Explore Shi'a Sunni" or you can also click on the "Explore Islam" tab. This is a great site with great resources in different languages.
And you can also visit this site Islam and Muslims: to learn more about Sunni Islam from their perspective.
I posted two links to remain objective.

After doing the research, I am sure you can select a group for yourself.

[Fahd]

It's hard to fully comprehend what you say, but I do get the gist of it.

So, in other words, you must accept a sect, correct?

0ops i knw ma english bad :P
about the accept a sect
if u go with what quran said and hadith said
u will be sunni
that's mean yes .

others are wrong in some big things and mybe that make them kafer and they don't know

[Dust]

The only group that has liberated Islam is Ahmadis. They have won the 1st nobel prize for Islam and they constructed 3 mosques where I live. Funny how its a Bengali imam who is in charge not even there own people. They are also demonized for no reason.

but ya,to be a Muslim, you have to recite a sentence.

Are you talking about Abdus Salam? He was an Ahmadi? What do you mean by liberated?

Need to research on Ahmadis.