Racism In Shi'ism

[Abu Hurayrah]

Shia Hadith
When the Prophet sent ambassadors to Persia and called them to accept Islam, the Persians responded with haughtiness. They rebuffed the “lowly” Arab ambassador and categorically declared that the “great” Persian race could never submit to the “lowly” Arabs. Indeed, racism in Zoroastrian Persia was rampant; the fire-worshipping Persians had the notion that they were racially superior to all other races.

The faith of Shi’ism found many supporters in Persia, and slowly the fire-worshipping ideologies of the Persians was fused into the Shia faith. The racism of the Persians eventually seeped into the Shia canon. The following are some Shia Hadith that blatantly teach racism, all recorded in Al-Kafi, the most reliable of the four Shia books of Hadith.



They are also available on Al-Shia.com, a very authoratative website of the Shia.


These Hadith (shown below) are Sahih according to the Shia, as they are narrated by Ali bin Ibrahim who is considered to be of the utmost reliability according to the Shia. He was one of the most prominent sources in Al-Kafi, the most reliable of the Shia books of Hadith.



We see that the Shia religion is very much against black people, and these Hadith use the term “Zunj” which is a common Arabic word used to refer to all black people. The Arabic of the Hadith can be found on the Al-Shia.com website:

“
باب من كره مناكحته من الاكراد والسودان وغيرهم )1 - علي بن إبراهيم، عن هارون بن مسلم، عن مسعدة بن زياد، عن أبي عبدالله (ع) قال: قال أمير المؤمنين (ع): إياكم ونكاح الزنج فإنه خلق مشوه.(1 - 9562
- علي بن إبراهيم، عن أسماعيل بن محمدالمكي، عن علي بن الحسين، عن عمروبن عثمان، عن الحسين بن خالد، عمن ذكره، عن أبي الربيع الشامي قال: قال لي أبوعبدالله (ع): لاتشتر من 2 - 9563 ) ” أما إنهم سيذكرون ذلك الحظ وسيخرج مع القائم3) فإنهم من الذين قال الله عزوجل: ” ومن الذين قالوا إنا نصارى أخذنا ميثاقهم فنسوا حظا مما ذكروابه(2السودان أحدا فإن كان لابد فمن النوبة( ع) مناعصابة منهم ولاتنكحوا من الاكراد أحدا فإنهم جنس من الجن كشف عنهم الغطاء.(
- عدة من أصحابنا، عن سهل بن زياد، عن موسى بن جعفر، عن عمرو بن سعيد، عن محمد بن عبدالله الهاشمي، عن أحمد بن يوسف، عن علي بن داود الحداد، عن أبي عبدالله (ع) قال: 3 - 9564 ) فإن لهم أرحاما تدل على غيرالوفاء قال: والهند والسند والقندليس فيهم نجيب يعني القندهار.4لاتناكحوا الزنج والخزر(
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) الشوه: قبح الخلقة وهو مصدر من باب تعب ورجل اشوه قبيح المنظر وامرأة شوهاء و الجمع شوه مثل أحمر وحمراء وحمر. وشاهت الوجوه تشوه: قبحت وشوهتها قبحتها. (المصباح)(1
) النوبة - بالضم -: رهط من بلاد الحبش. (القاموس)(2
.14) المائدة: (3
) الزنج بالفتح -: صنف من السودان واحدهم زنجى. والخزر هو ضيق العين وصغرها كانه ينظر بمؤخرها والخزر جيل من الناس. (الصحاح) وفى بعض النسخ [الخوذ]. وهو - بالضم -: صنف من الناس. (*)(4

source: http://www.al-shia.com/html/ara/book...i-5/index.html”

Translation:
1. (Narrated) Ali bin Ibrahim, from Haroon bin Muslim, from Mas’adah bin Ziyad, from Abu Abdullah [as] said: Amirul-Mu’mineen Ali [as] said:

“Beware of marrying the Negroes (Zunj) for they are an ugly creation.” (al-Kafi, fil Furoo’: Book of Nikah, Chapter: Whom Are Disliked for Marriage, Narration 1)

2. (Narrated) Ali bin Ibrahim, from Ismael bin Muhammad al-Makki, from Ali bin al-Husain, from ‘Amr bin Othman, from al-Husain bin Khalid, from whom he entioned from Abu Ar-Rabi’ al-Shami said: Imam Abu Abdullah [as] said:

“Do not [even] buy anyone who is a Negro…never marry anyone of the Kurdish (people) for they are part of the Jinn (demons)…” (al-Kafi, fil Furoo’: Book of Nikah, Chapter: Whom Are Disliked for Marriage, Narration 2)

3. (Narrated) Several of our fellows from Sahl bin Ziyad, from Musa bin Ja’far, from ‘Amr bin Sa’eed, from Muhammad bin Abdillah al-Hashimi, from Ahmad bin Yousuf, from Ali bin Dawood al-Haddaad said: Imam Abu Abdullah [as] said:

“Marry not from the Negroes (Zanj) nor the Khazar, for they have near relatives whom are unfaithful.” (al-Kafi, fil Furoo’: Book of Nikah, Chapter: Whom Are Disliked for Marriage, Narration 3)

He further said:

“India, Sindh and Qindh–not a single one of them [from there] is intelligent.” (al-Kafi, fil Furoo’: Book of Nikah, Chapter: Whom Are Disliked for Marriage, Narration 3)

Qindh/Sindh region Afghanistan(Qandahar)/Pakistan/India

India of course refers to India, Sindh to Pakistan, and Qindh refers to Afghanistan. Khazar refers to the northern areas near the Black Sea. And the Negroes are of course from the West of Persia in Africa.
If we notice, Shi’ism is racist towards everyone other than the Persians. People of every region surrounding Persia are considered inferior, including Africans, Kurds, Afghanis, Pakistanis, and Indians.
The racism is also levied against Arabs and Arab culture. It is written in the Shia book “Tareekh-al-Islam” that when Allah becomes happy, then He talks in Persian, and He only speaks Arabic when He becomes annoyed. (Tareekh-al-Islam, p.163)
Another interesting point is that although the Shia believe in the superiority of the Prophet’s descendants, they only trace it (i.e. the Ahlel Bayt) through the progeny of Hussain. They ignore the progeny of his brother, Hasan. It does not take much thought to realize why this is the case. Hussain married a Persian, and thus his progeny was Persian. Therefore, the Shia found it prudent to abandon the non-Persian progeny of Hasan and instead they only trace their Imamah through the descendants of Hussain.
Ahlus Sunnah Rejects Racism
Whereas the Shia Hadith advocate racism, the Hadith of the mainstream Muslims completely rejects racism. Here are some Hadith considered authentic by the Ahlus Sunnah.
The Prophet said:

“An arab has no superiority over a non-Arab, nor has a non-Arab any superiority over an Arab, nor has a black man any superiority over a white man or a white man over a black man except by the criterion of taqwa (righteous practice). All of you are from Adam, and Adam is from dust.” (As-Sunan)

The Prophet also said:

“Allah does not look at your shapes or your colors but He looks at your hearts (intentions) and your deeds. Creatures are the dependants of Allah and the closest among them to Allah are indeed the most useful to His dependants.”

Assabiyyah (nationalism/tribalism/bigotry) is strictly Haram (forbidden) based on the Hadith of the Ahlus Sunnah.
The Prophet said:

“He is not one us who calls for Assabiyyah or who fights for Assabiyyah or who dies for Assabiyyah.” (Abu Dawood)

The Prophet said about Assabiyyah:

“Leave it. It is rotten.” (Sahih Bukhari & Muslim)

[Dreamer]

1... shias do not have the same view with hadith as sunnis do... if a hadith even in the great al kafee as u put it found to be against islam namely equality of the races... it is to be discarded... compare this 2 hadith in Bukhari which speak of
Sahih al-Bukhari Volume 9, Book 87, Number 163:
Narrated Salim's father:

The Prophet said, "I saw (in a dream) a black woman with unkempt hair going out of Medina and settling in Mahai'a. I interpreted that as (a symbol of) epidemic of Medina being transferred to Mahai'a, namely, Al-Juhfa."

[Dreamer]

also look at the attitude of the ummayad a legacy of the "great" muawiyya to foriegn ppls then come back and talk!

[Abu Hurayrah]

What has history got to do with Creed?

I am not going offtopic, so shouldn't you. The hadith you post is not racist at all. He (s.a.w) did nowhere called the black women something or degraded her, he meant the epidemic, and it was an individual, could have been a wife women for instance, doesn't mean anything.

These are the words of the holy infallible IMAMS of the shia. Their words are nearly as autorative as the Qur'aan. Infact, the Qur'aan the shias read now is not the real Qur'aan. Since the Qur'aan we have now was written by the Sahaba, they are reading a book written by apostates?

It is not an excuse to say, well, we don't believe in the hadith when it doesn't suite the shia. The infallible imams are authoritative in shi'ism, the highest authority.

[Dreamer]

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black woman=epidemic....
as for SHIA hadith again shia do not have anything such as SAHIH as u do.... even if al kafee contains something it is not necssairly accepted!

[Dreamer]

What has history got to do with Creed?

I am not going offtopic, so shouldn't you. The hadith you post is not racist at all. He (s.a.w) did nowhere called the black women something or degraded her, he meant the epidemic, and it was an individual, could have been a wife women for instance, doesn't mean anything.

These are the words of the holy infallible IMAMS of the shia. Their words are nearly as autorative as the Qur'aan. Infact, the Qur'aan the shias read now is not the real Qur'aan. Since the Qur'aan we have now was written by the Sahaba, they are reading a book written by apostates?

It is not an excuse to say, well, we don't believe in the hadith when it doesn't suite the shia. The infallible imams are authoritative in shi'ism, the highest authority.

history??? Muawiyya is a poster child of hard core sunnis... who refuse to believe sahaba did any wrong... despite the fact he fought his caliph ... despite the fact that he established a monarchy and made his drunk b****d son a king who later went on 2 kill the grandson of Rasool and tear of the veil of his granddaughter and clap her in chains....

[Dreamer]

or is that a "shia fairy story?" I suppose Imam Hussains head flew off his shoulders by itself

[Abu Hurayrah]

black woman=epidemic....
as for SHIA hadith again shia do not have anything such as SAHIH as u do.... even if al kafee contains something it is not necssairly accepted!

Black Woman is epedemic? Why? Did he say that? where?

That is thus, rejecting the words of the ''holy imam''. It is in fact very good to reject this, even if the isnaad and chain of the narrations is sound. It is just an implication how wise the ''infallible imams'' where concerning such issues.

And it is also shocking to see shia's window shopping on their sources. If it is a narration cursing Aishah radiallahi anha or other Sahaba, they claim directly that it is sound and acceptable, even tough it is narrated by a Donkey. (I am not joking by the way, in shia ulum al hadith, some narrations are narrated by a donkey).

Don't mix up Karbala and other topic's here. Just keep it on the Hadith I posted from the shia book, al kafi. the words of the infallible imams.

[Dreamer]

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Black Woman is epedemic? Why? Did he say that? where?

That is thus, rejecting the words of the ''holy imam''. It is in fact very good to reject this, even if the isnaad and chain of the narrations is sound. It is just an implication how wise the ''infallible imams'' where concerning such issues.

And it is also shocking to see shia's window shopping on their sources. If it is a narration cursing Aishah radiallahi anha or other Sahaba, they claim directly that it is sound and acceptable, wventough it is narrated by a Donkey. (I am not joking by the way, in shia ulum al hadith, some narrations are narrated by a donkey). .

again no shia hadith are classed as "sahih" u have 2 understand that concept 1st.... a bit difficult for u i suppose since u are trained to accept everything between bukhairs covers....

[Abu Hurayrah]

again no shia hadith are classed as "sahih" u have 2 understand that concept 1st.... a bit difficult for u i suppose since u are trained to accept everything between bukhairs covers....

Buddy, it has nothing to do with sahih or not labeling it ''sahih'' , the isnaad of the hadith is good, and has to be accepted, or option 2. totally ignore it and say, the imam made a mistake and move on.

[Dreamer]

Mu’awiyah, in a famous letter addressed to Ziyad ibn Abih, the then governor of Iraq, wrote:

Be watchful of Iranian Muslims and never treat them as equals of Arabs. Arabs have a right to take in marriage their women, but they have no right to marry Arab women. Arabs are entitled to inherit their legacy, but they cannot inherit from an Arab. As far as possible they are to be given lesser pensions and lowly jobs.

In the presence of an Arab a non-Arab shall not lead the congregation prayer, nor they are to be allowed to stand in the first row of prayer, nor to be entrusted with the job of guarding the frontiers or the post of a qadi

refrences:
Ansab al Ashraf" or "Futuh al-Buldan" by Baladhuri. p.417.
"Tarikh-i Sistan". p82
"Tarikh e Qum". p254-6.

[Dreamer]

Buddy, it has nothing to do with sahih or not labeling it ''sahih'' , the isnaad of the hadith is good, and has to be accepted, or option 2. totally ignore it and say, the imam made a mistake and move on.

chinese whispers... anyone can make an acceptable chain and then ascribe their own words in2 it... simple... this was done in Ummayad times...

[Dreamer]

it is no wonder that Muawiyya was addressed as the ceaser of the Arabs

[Dreamer]

You simply do not get shia understanding of hadith for your bringing your own sunni understanding to it....

[Abu Hurayrah]

Why do you spam again? Let us concentrate on the Hadith, why is it rejected? Because it contradicts your Aql? Al Kafi has to be trusted, and big scholars issued fatwa's on it, praising it. You have to be kidding, jumping from one point to another and hiding behind the word sahih, come on man, let us talk as men.

The quote you post, I don't know what or who Al Baladhuri was, I don't own the book, and if Muawiyah (ra) said that, he has made a mistake.

Oke, lets go on with the Al Kafi and the discrimination of the N i G G E R s by the ''holy imams''.