Racism In Shi'ism

[Dreamer]

tell me oh abu huraryra who accepts all that is in the "sahih" collections as unalterable truth
what say u abt this disgusting hadith which makes slurs on Hz Aisha (hate to break it 2 u but I dont hate her as u might think)

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3425:

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Salim, the freed slave of Abu Hadhaifa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i. e. the daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Salim has attained (puberty) as men attain, and he understands what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, perceive that something (rankles) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said to her: Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the rankling) which Abu Hudhaifa feels in his heart will disappear. She returned and said: So I suckled him, and what (was there) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa disappeared.

[Dreamer]

u actually believe that the prophets wife did that?????

[Dreamer]

Let me make it very clear here.
Besides the Prophet(pbuh), no one else matters. His family is great, and is held in high esteem by all Muslims. All politics that came after his death have no relevance to Islam as a religion in general.

Muyawiah (ra) was also related to the Prophet(pbuh). Fighting occurred between relatives all the time in those days. Keep in mind that all this infighting was occurring before the Prophet's(pbuh) arrival and declaration. How did you think these people were going to get out of their ways so quickly?

Hussain(ra) took up arms against Yazid because he believed him to be an oppressor. I believe Hussain(ra) was right to oppose Yazid, but he was told many times not go to Karbala, yet he still chose to do so. Prophet(pbuh) would not have gone.

Besides the Prophet(pbuh) there is no one else who is infallible. After the Prophet(pbuh) there is no one else. No one is equal to the Prophet(pbuh) in purity. The family is held in high esteem, and dua is made for them after prayers nearly all the time. However, they are family just like any other family. Blood means nothing and should not be given importance to. A bad person descended from the Prophet(pbuh) is still a bad person. No exceptions.

how do you knw prophet wld not have gone? do u claim 2 Knw better than Imam Hussain???? When there is a corrupt ruler he must be deposed... u cant have drunkards ruling muslims

[Abu Hurayrah]

The imams were followers of Islam any report that they contradicted islam is false even if thats in al kafee... shia do not have "sahih" hadith... a hadith is 2 be judged by its content if it goes against islam then its false

What is Islaam? Why do you post 1 line in each post? Keep this thread organized please.

This is in fact saying that in Shi'ism there is no source or management, or a science of Hadith! Don't jump around and bring up new topics, (which are even discussed in earlier discussions). Open a new topic about it if it makes you happy.

What source do you take your shi'ism from ? Hadith ? Or you just buy it on the See Buy Fly store ? Offcourse it is Hadith. So why would a sound and trusworthy narration be rejected on the basis of matn ?

Maybe it contradicts the Qur'aan?

If it does, the the Qur'aan was put together and written on paper by the Sahaba, how can you shi'as read a book which was written en memorized by Naasibi apostates?

And that is not even the point, Let us talk about the Hadith, and why the shi'as are ashamed for these words of the infallible imams. Where is the prove that the Imams did not say this? There is prove that they did,

[Dreamer]

if any narration contradicts quran throw it away.... u who follow muawiyya wldnt knw that

[Dreamer]

since u accept sahih hadith 1st answer that "hadith" abt prophets wife....

[Dreamer]

show where shia believe in the term SAHIH with regards 2 their books...

[unknownprince]

Its also about Qind, which is Qandahar.

What is the shia understanding of Hadith ? If you don't like something about your holy imam, just ignore it? Is that the understanding?

Get real.

Kandaharis are way more superior to them. This is why I believe we are the Chosen Bani Israelies who converted to Islam

[Dreamer]

Kandaharis are way more superior to them. This is why I believe we are the Chosen Bani Israelies who converted to Islam

despite the fact we are not semetic? lol

[unknownprince]

The thing is most of the Shia hadith that Abu Hurairah mentioned are completely against the teachings of Islam.

So the contradiciton can pretty much falsify the whole book of hadith they have.

[Dreamer]

^ if it goes againts the book of God shia do not believe it.... there is no concept of sahih hadith.... same can not be said for most sunni understanding of hadith.... yet they accept by their own definition then the hadith that i posted with regards to Hz Aisha ? how disgusting

[unknownprince]

despite the fact we are not semetic? lol

well, there is a lot of evidence both oral and cultural that support it, like putting stones on the graves, jews do that to, like the covering that is used over the groom and bride during a wedding, Jews do that to. There is too many to list. I will make a list later, and start a new thread. Our physical features are very similar to the Jews too (im talking about original Jews who you can still find today)

[unknownprince]

our culture is too unique to that region. No one else shares anything with us except Khudahafiz and jaan which really means nothing at all. I used to think we were from the Scythians, but I am rethinking that because even that does not explain why we have such a unique culture.

[Dreamer]

well, there is a lot of evidence both oral and cultural that support it, like putting stones on the graves, jews do that to, like the covering that is used over the groom and bride during a wedding, Jews do that to. There is too many to list. I will make a list later, and start a new thread. Our physical features are very similar to the Jews too (im talking about original Jews who you can still find today)

oral and cultural??? lol u mean that myth propogated in mughal times???? lol.... we are not semetic... we were zoroastrian before Islam.... Herodatus mentions a ppl similar 2 pashtuns.... the temple had not fallen at that time hence no diaspora ... all ppls have some similarity does not mean they are ethnically the same

[unknownprince]

sticking to the original topic, there are many hadiths that are questionable, and those mentioned in the OP are def false!!!Prophet did not preach this.
So what else could be false???