A call on all the Apostate and Disbelieving brothers and sisters!

[AgnosticPashtana]

Permitted by Mohammad, where? I'd like to see that.

Refrain from quoting me out of context. Did Muhammad not kill "Infidels"?

[Wrayun]

Levanaye Zalmaye,

There's a difference between atheists and anarchists......

Never said there wasn't any. Though I don't see why atheists shouldn't be or aren't moral anarchists. This goes back to our other debate about man made morals. You can argue that even Quranic morals are man made, but still, doesn't take away from my initial point. Atheists with morals is just plain stupid. I'm not saying there aren't any, but that's how I see it. They are consciously submitting to societal norms and standards. I mean they can, it's their choice. But its funny that they do.

[Wrayun]

Refrain from quoting me out of context. Did Muhammad not kill "Infidels"?

I'm sorry, didn't you suggest that Mohammad approved of "suicide bombing", which you labeled conveniently "killing infidels" as in some sort of an recreational activity Muslim should participate in? If you didn't mean that, then fine. If you meant that, then you need to prove it.

Mohammad killed infidels and allowed the killing of infidels in self-defense. True. If you mean Mohammad permitted killings of the infidels for epic good timez, then no.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Momin do you believe in the Bible once being the book of God?

The Injeel was and is the word of God. The translation for that would be the Gospel. The plural of injeel is anajeel. Allah says that He revealed the injeel (singular) to Hadhrat Isa (as), not the anajeel (plural). Today, and ever since the Bible was brought in its written form, it has always been refered to as the 'Gospels' for there are four of them, The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. So, if you are referring to this "Bible," then no. This was never the book of God. However, if you are referring to the words that Hadhrat Isa (as) spoke, which are preserved in the Bible, then yes, I do believe them to be the word of God even today for it is the injeel.

By the way, the Bible is the collection of the Jewish and Christian scriptures. There is no such referrence in the Holy Quran, dearest brother.

[AgnosticPashtana]

I'm sorry, didn't you suggest that Mohammad approved of "suicide bombing", which you labeled conveniently "killing infidels" as in some sort of an recreational activity Muslim should participate in? If you didn't mean that, then fine. If you meant that, then you need to prove it.

Mohammad killed infidels and allowed the killing of infidels in self-defense. True. If you mean Mohammad permitted killings of the infidels for epic good timez, then no.

What i meant was Muhammad encouraged killing infidels. Today, suicide bombing is justified since it kills Infidels.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Dearest and most beloved sister (momin is back, by the way so I must restart referring to everyone with love and kindness)

That put a HUGE smile on my face. I can't get if off.

[Wrayun]

What i meant was Muhammad encouraged killing infidels. Today, suicide bombing is justified since it kills Infidels.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha lulz

oh my god.

okay.

[AgnosticPashtana]

Khorasani, your post has nothing to do with the thread. I am new but I can recognize when someone tries to change the topic. Please stay on topic.

Thank you.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Momin, how did you manage to come back? Did you pay off Admin?

No, Admin Khan is a very reasonable person. This website would be dead if you, or your other clowns, were at the helm.

[AgnosticPashtana]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha lulz

oh my god.

okay.

Lulz. Me wanz 2 laff 2.

If you want to discuss this "peaceful" religion of yours, you are free to do so. All I have seen associated with Islam is violence.

Take a look at all 99percent Islamic nations. Take a look at countries that are not that big on Religion. Do the comparison.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

What i meant was Muhammad encouraged killing infidels. Today, suicide bombing is justified since it kills Infidels.

Dear and beloved friend,

Hadhrat Muhammad (saw) never ever encouraged the killings of infidels. The times when "infidels" were met with death at the hands of Muslims were during battles. And, all battles that were fought were in self-defence. If you read the first 13 years of the ministry of our prophet (saw) you would see this beautifully illustrated that he never encourage the killings of "infidels."

[Wrayun]

AgnosticPashtana,

If you want to discuss this "peaceful" religion of yours, you are free to do so. All I have seen associated with Islam is violence.

Does it make it true? If you grew up in some Muslim countries, all you will see associated with the West is debauchery, does it make it true? Fail.

Take a look at all 99percent Islamic nations. Take a look at countries that are not that big on Religion. Do the comparison.

You mean Muslim countries invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, one under false pretext the other in chasing a bedouin super bogyman, killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, raped many prisoners, acted out some kinky fantasies, installed their favorite strongmen to take control of 3rd world poor mans resources?

If you want to have serious discussion, do so. If you are looking for flaming, try Yahoo or Fox news comment sections.

[Haneef]

I ask you to leave your wahabi anthromorphic ways and come back to the true Islam. give up your self righteous arrogant attitude and come back down to everyone else's level, insha`Allah.

[AgnosticPashtana]

I ask you to leave your wahabi anthromorphic ways and come back to the true Islam. give up your self righteous arrogant attitude and come back down to everyone else's level, insha`Allah.

I thought I was the only one who noticed his arrogant and selfish attitude.

[AgnosticPashtana]

AgnosticPashtana,

Does it make it true? If you grew up in some Muslim countries, all you will see associated with the West is debauchery, does it make it true? Fail.

Weak argument. I said, All Religious countries are associated with violence. Take a look at Pakistan, Afghanistan, Palestine, Israel. Let's compare Islamic Republic of Afghanistan to secular Norway or USA.

You mean Muslim countries invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, one under false pretext the other in chasing a bedouin super bogyman, killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, raped many prisoners, acted out some kinky fantasies, installed their favorite strongmen to take control of 3rd world poor mans resources?

Nope. But it was Religious extremists who decided to blow up bombs, kill innocent people, blow a plane in the trade center and I can go on.

If you want to have serious discussion, do so. If you are looking for flaming, try Yahoo or Fox news comment sections.

I am not here for flaming. Please refrain from such assumption. I am an open-minded woman and I hope to learn from you, just as much as I hope you can learn from me.