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  • #31
    Originally posted by ذو الفقار View Post
    Dude, instead of expending so much effort on attacking me personally just quote the Hadith that says Jesus will pray behind the Mahdi. Kapiche
    Here’s the Hadith, Qadiani:

    Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported:

    I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: A section of my people will not cease fighting for the Truth and will prevail till the Day of Resurrection. He said: Jesus son of Mary would then descend and their (Muslims') commander would invite him to come and lead them in prayer, but he would say: No, some amongst you are commanders over some (amongst you). This is the honour from Allah for this Ummah.
    Source: Hadith - The Book of Faith - Sahih Muslim - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

    This is a waste of time, as Kaish said, because we all know you’re going to use some hackneyed Qadiani apologetics to explain away the obvious meaning of the Hadith that Muslims have known and accepted for a millennium.

    This is only an issue for your kind because your imposter prophet (excuse me “saint” lol) needed to explain away the obvious meanings of many of Rasulullah’s (صلى الله عليه وسلم) prophecies so he could usurp their meanings for himself.

    And as I’ve already said multiple times to you, Ghulam Ahmad is our enemy in both creed and ethnicity. We hate that loser British slave, and will never accept him or his idiot followers. So stop trying to foster a rapport with us. You came here a liar, just like your predecessor, and like him you underestimated how easily we’d sense your Qadiani stench.

    The very idea of a self-hating Persian-wannabe dawoos like Ghulam Ahmad having any sort of stature in Islam is literally anathema to the religion. Get that through your thick skull already.

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    • #32
      Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported:

      I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: A section of my people will not cease fighting for the Truth and will prevail till the Day of Resurrection. He said: Jesus son of Mary would then descend and their (Muslims') commander would invite him to come and lead them in prayer, but he would say: No, some amongst you are commanders over some (amongst you). This is the honour from Allah for this Ummah.

      The above Hadith doesn't mention the name Mahdi at all.

      Other Ahadith make clear that Jesus will pray behind that Imam only once, because the Iqama will have been called, as mentioned in the Hadith reported in Ibn Maja:

      هُمْ يَوْمَئِذٍ قَلِيلٌ وَجُلُّهُمْ بِبَيْتِ الْمَقْدِسِ وَإِمَامُهُمْ رَجُلٌ صَالِحٌ فَبَيْنَمَا إِمَامُهُمْ قَدْ تَقَدَّمَ يُصَلِّي بِهِمُ الصُّبْحَ إِذْ نَزَلَ عَلَيْهِمْ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ الصُّبْحَ فَرَجَعَ ذَلِكَ الإِمَامُ يَنْكُصُ يَمْشِي الْقَهْقَرَى لِيَتَقَدَّمَ عِيسَى يُصَلِّي بِالنَّاسِ فَيَضَعُ عِيسَى يَدَهُ بَيْنَ كَتِفَيْهِ ثُمَّ يَقُولُ لَهُ تَقَدَّمْ فَصَلِّ فَإِنَّهَا لَكَ أُقِيمَتْ ‏.‏ فَيُصَلِّي بِهِمْ إِمَامُهُمْ

      On that day they will be few, and most of them will be in Baitul-Maqdis (Jerusalem), and their leader will be a righteous man. When their leader has stepped forward to lead them in subh prayer, 'Eisa bin Maryam will come down to them. Their leader will step backwards so that 'Eisa can come forward and lead the people in prayer, but 'Eisa will place his hand between his shoulders and say to him: "Go forward and pray, for the Iqamah was given for you."

      After this exception, Eisa bin Maryam will himself lead the prayers.
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      • #33
        Thanks for posting the hadiths. But you said, in other posts, that Isa Bin Maryam (peace be upon him) is dead and won't descend.

        Is Mirza Masroor Ahmed your Caliph?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by کیش View Post
          Thanks for posting the hadiths. But you said, in other posts, that Isa Bin Maryam (peace be upon him) is dead and won't descend.
          He is deceased as per the verdict of the Holy Qur'aan.
          I believe he will descend, but the reality of his descent, meaning the modality, requires explanation.

          Is Mirza Masroor Ahmed your Caliph?
          No
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          • #35
            Originally posted by ذو الفقار View Post


            He is deceased as per the verdict of the Holy Qur'aan.
            I believe he will descend, but the reality of his descent, meaning the modality, requires explanation.



            No
            Do you believe in the journey of Isra and Miraj? It involves the Prophet (peace be upon him) ascending and eventually descending back to Earth. Does it require explanation? Astragforullah.

            Quranist Muslims think it's a fabrication. They are also a heretic sect as they do not believe in the hadiths.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by کیش View Post
              Do you believe in the journey of Isra and Miraj? It involves the Prophet (peace be upon him) ascending and eventually descending back to Earth. Does it require explanation? Astragforullah.

              I believe in Israa and Mi'raaj, but it not with this corporal body. I believe it was a spiritual ascension. I've written extensively on that subject here

              رَبَّ جِبْرِيلَ وَمِيكَائِيلَ وَإِسْرَافِيلَ أَعِذْنِي مِنْ حَرِّ النَّارِ وَعَذَابِ الْقَبْرِ: Mi'raj: A Physical or Spiritual Ascension?

              I'm not a Qur'anist since I believe in Sunna and Hadith, but I reject any solitary Hadith which contradicts Qur'an and well-known Sunna.
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