Did Allah make Quranic descriptions stupid on purpose?

[Karachi]

Hasn't he already admitted it?

I think he still claims to be an ex-Muslim, when it's pretty obvious he's a Hindu, but if he claimed that he was still Muslim he's been doing an awful job of pretending.

Lol, why would i be a hindu you moron, there are plenty of muslims like me, you only have to open your eyes, the number is growing, we r everywhere. As a human, there is nothing wrong with having doubts and questioning stuff, even if it has to be your religion, why should i be a blind follower of something, tell me? Especially idiotic stuff like this , the description of paradise, looks like some 5 year old wrote this stuff, not the almighty creator

[Karachi]

Maybe you're right, but there are born Muslims who act like him, and then to impress white people they start acting autistic ....all of them are Indian-Paki-Bangladeshi.

Even Afghan Ex Muslims generally don't go around acting autistic except that Nema Sadat guy.

Lol again idiot, how is this impressing white people, there r no whites on the forum. And there were plenty of afghans here earlier, who openly disagreed with Islam

[maneatinglizard]

Lol, why would i be a hindu you moron, there are plenty of muslims like me, you only have to open your eyes, the number is growing, we r everywhere. As a human, there is nothing wrong with having doubts and questioning stuff, even if it has to be your religion, why should i be a blind follower of something, tell me? Especially idiotic stuff like this , the description of paradise, looks like some 5 year old wrote this stuff, not the almighty creator

It's obvious from the way you write that you were not raised a Muslim. People leave Islam, but they don't call their parents animals after doing so. And why should anyone believe you when you've already admitted to lying about your background? Multiple times?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Lol again idiot, how is this impressing white people, there r no whites on the forum. And there were plenty of afghans here earlier, who openly disagreed with Islam

There are whites that watch the forum, you can print screen pics of the forum and do what they call "virtue signaling" to a white audience. This is the internet, many ways to go around impressing whites without them being on this forum.

You're colonized,, it's in your nature, you live for their approval.

[khushal]

There is No difference between ex-muslims and liberal or moderatie muslims. They're all the same.

Doesn't Islam promote moderation and balance rather than excess and extravagance.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Doesn't Islam promote moderation and balance rather than excess and extravagance.

Islam is moderation. Therefore one cannot be moderately Muslim. Because that implies that Islam is inherently extreme and thus some Muslims are moderate while others are not.

[Firdousi]

"Moderate" and "extremist" are Western labels to differentiate between "Pro-Western Muslims willing to accept Western supremacy" and "Non Pro-Western Muslims who refuse Western influence in their countries". From a pure Western perspective you dont have to be violent to be an "extremist Muslim": if you reject Western liberalism you become ipso facto an "extremist".

From an Islamic perspective whoever says "la ilahi il Allah" is a Muslim. Some Muslims take their faith more seriously than others but at the end of the day both are still Muslims. Period.

[Nertj]

Lol, why would i be a hindu you moron, there are plenty of muslims like me, you only have to open your eyes, the number is growing, we r everywhere. As a human, there is nothing wrong with having doubts and questioning stuff, even if it has to be your religion, why should i be a blind follower of something, tell me? Especially idiotic stuff like this , the description of paradise, looks like some 5 year old wrote this stuff, not the almighty creator

Who gives a **** what you follow or dont?
Go eat your daal, Apu.

Lol

[khushal]

Islam is moderation. Therefore one cannot be moderately Muslim. Because that implies that Islam is inherently extreme and thus some Muslims are moderate while others are not.

What are you saying?

Islam is moderation so muslims that follow moderation are not muslims.

and then you say:

Muslims that follow moderation implies Islam as inherently extreme.

That is a contradiction.

[khushal]

"Moderate" and "extremist" are Western labels to differentiate between "Pro-Western Muslims willing to accept Western supremacy" and "Non Pro-Western Muslims who refuse Western influence in their countries". From a pure Western perspective you dont have to be violent to be an "extremist Muslim": if you reject Western liberalism you become ipso facto an "extremist".

From an Islamic perspective whoever says "la ilahi il Allah" is a Muslim. Some Muslims take their faith more seriously than others but at the end of the day both are still Muslims. Period.

By Western labels, moderates are defined as the ones that keep their religion at home and extremists are the ones that take it beyond their home. They played this tactic with their Christians as well while at the same time it is OK for homosexuals to dangle their homosexuality everywhere which is why homosexuals are widely accepted as some "holymen." Today politicians tell their constituents that Russia is evil because they have made laws against homosexuals while in the 80's Russia was evil because it was "Godless."

See how the tactics are playing out and this poll just came in:
American Muslims growing more liberal, survey shows - CNN.com

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

What are you saying?

Islam is moderation so muslims that follow moderation are not muslims.

and then you say:

Muslims that follow moderation implies Islam as inherently extreme.

That is a contradiction.

That's not contradiction. Islam as a religion is the moderate approach as opposed to other religions and ways of life.


Other people are seen as somehow misguided or extreme from an Islamic perspective and therefore our Sharia is the moderate middle path approach.

It is therefore stupid and nonsensical to claim that one is following Islam moderately.

Only a stupid person or a zindeeq would suggest that Islam is extreme and therefore you have to practice it moderately.

[maneatinglizard]

By Western labels, moderates are defined as the ones that keep their religion at home and extremists are the ones that take it beyond their home. They played this tactic with their Christians as well while at the same time it is OK for homosexuals to dangle their homosexuality everywhere which is why homosexuals are widely accepted as some "holymen." Today politicians tell their constituents that Russia is evil because they have made laws against homosexuals while in the 80's Russia was evil because it was "Godless."

See how the tactics are playing out and this poll just came in:
American Muslims growing more liberal, survey shows - CNN.com

Most of the changes in that study were within the margin of error, so they don't mean much.

The increased acceptance of homosexuality is significant, and surprising, as is how many are "proud to be an American." I wonder what the question about homosexuality actually was.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Media tends to misbrand and skew things.

I think being homosexual, that is having the inborn sexual preference of the same sex, is not a sin, but engaging in homosexual acts is a sin. I think homoexuals don't "choose" to be gay, but they have a disorder arising from something physiological.

I accept that there wll be homosexuals in the world and that they shouldn't be attacked for having this disorder, but I don't believe that their lifestyle choices need to be ratified by society or given sanction.

Am I liberal, Am I conservative? No, I'm following what I believe Islam always taught. We don't condemn people for having desires, we don't penalize people for having a disorder, but we dont sanction acting on desires like these.

[Karachi]

That's not contradiction. Islam as a religion is the moderate approach as opposed to other religions and ways of life.


Other people are seen as somehow misguided or extreme from an Islamic perspective and therefore our Sharia is the moderate middle path approach.

It is therefore stupid and nonsensical to claim that one is following Islam moderately.

Only a stupid person or a zindeeq would suggest that Islam is extreme and therefore you have to practice it moderately.

How the hell is Sharia moderate? Sharia and Islam have never been moderate, the ultimate goal of islam is to dominate and make the whole world muslim, even by force, that is not moderation, almost nothing in Quran and hadith is moderate. Islam is extreme beyond words in every way

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

if the world is extremely deviant, then dominating and force would be moderation.