Cult of Hank

[Damir9000]

This is how he acquires new information

Nice.
Are you lawyer btw?

[Damir9000]

In other words, you're following Islam blindly. Gotcha.

Of course!!!!

The only reason why they are Muslims is because of their parents.

As they grow up, they try to "rationalize" it.

It's called confirmation bias
Confirmation bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Damir9000]

Why cant god do this!?? what doesnt he just do that!!?? why this and why that, i demand god, DEMAND him to be interrogated and questioned. LOL bloody spoilt brats, humble yourselves. Your human brain hasn't the capacity to understand everything or the reasons for why the supreme being has made certain decisions. This life is a test made for us and there is a recompense for those that had 'faith' and believed in the words of the Qur'an and teachings of Muhammed pbuh. You will find out what god has promised to show you when you are dead, your lack of patience cannot rush God to show you in this life (if he does not want to show you), he don't need to rush for anyone. I personally have witnessed miracles from Allah and have seem impossible things turn into possible after a simple sincere supplication.

Because an old arab dude in the desert said so?

humble ourselves? lol

[Shapur]

Of course!!!!

The only reason why they are Muslims is because of their parents.

As they grow up, they try to "rationalize" it.

It's called confirmation bias
Confirmation bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Do you think the same holds true for Atheist parents who might influence their kids?

I certainly agree that majority of people believe in the religion of their parents because of societal pressure and don't question their beliefs.

[Damir9000]

Do you think the same holds true for Atheist parents who might influence their kids?

I certainly agree that majority of people believe in the religion of their parents because of societal pressure and don't question their beliefs.

Well, yes. If they force them to be atheist & send them to atheist madrassa.

But that is almost never the case.

[Shapur]

Well, yes. If they force them to be atheist & send them to atheist madrassa.

But that is almost never the case.

Maybe not force them to be atheist but certainly induce athestic view point into their kids. We all want the best for our kids and have our biases so ofcourse if an Atheist thinks believing in God is absurd, they will want their kids to have the same position.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Of course!!!!

The only reason why they are Muslims is because of their parents.

As they grow up, they try to "rationalize" it.

It's called confirmation bias
Confirmation bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sort of like third world atheists and their silly reasons for abandoning Islam. Projection much?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Well, yes. If they force them to be atheist & send them to atheist madrassa.

But that is almost never the case.

In Former Soviet Union, you don't force Atheism, Atheism forces you.

[Sarbani]

Maybe not force them to be atheist but certainly induce athestic view point into their kids. We all want the best for our kids and have our biases so ofcourse if an Atheist thinks believing in God is absurd, they will want their kids to have the same position.

If people belonging to an organized religion don't teach their children to be followers of that religion and non-religious people don't teach their children to be non-religious, the chances of the child following a religion (Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, etc.) versus the chances of the child following no religion are in HEAVILY favor of following no religion.

[Manzareh]

Because an old arab dude in the desert said so?

humble ourselves? lol

Why did you refer to his race and age? As if to say you are better than an old Arab dude.. Why? Because you are young, or because you are white? Or atleast think you are. Why does racism always come out of you atheists no matter your nationality 'if it ain't white, it ain't right'...

As for your last question, just read the above, that's exactly what I mean.

Also. Why do you post big childish cartoons as your signature, don't you get bored of seeing the same big ass image, atleast change it now and then.

[Manzareh]

Well, yes. If they force them to be atheist & send them to atheist madrassa.

But that is almost never the case.

It's even worse, it's like starving your child from an education. I mean the atheists do not have superb parenting skills if they deprive children about thinking about the origins of the earth. You cannot even come up with a story or a theory how something could come from nothing other than God, LET ALONE 'prove' that there is no God.. So why should your children not be taught of this as even a possibility?? Ignoring them and swaying them away from religion is the atheist madrasah right at home.

[Manzareh]

If people belonging to an organized religion don't teach their children to be followers of that religion and non-religious people don't teach their children to be non-religious, the chances of the child following a religion (Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, etc.) versus the chances of the child following no religion are in HEAVILY favor of following no religion.

Well that's a ridiculous summary for 2 reasons. The first is that it doesn't take a genius to work out the absence of knowledge causes ignorance. Secondly your assimily makes as much sense of saying: "if people that were educated didn't enforce education upon their children then by default everyone would be uneducated" OBLVIOUSLY.. But is it a good thing? Absolutely not.. So what do we do?? We ENFORCE eduction upon them. Saying that, still we are hear not even advocating enforcement of religion upon kids but purely educating them for their own good. And you have a problem with this.

The upbringing you have with ur kids 'is' you organising your own point of view/religion accross to them, no?

[Sarbani]

Well that's a ridiculous summary for 2 reasons. The first is that it doesn't take a genius to work out the absence of knowledge causes ignorance. Secondly your assimily makes as much sense of saying: "if people that were educated didn't enforce education upon their children then by default everyone would be uneducated" OBLVIOUSLY.. But is it a good thing? Absolutely not.. So what do we do?? We ENFORCE eduction upon them. Saying that, still we are hear not even advocating enforcement of religion upon kids but purely educating them for their own good. And you have a problem with this.

The upbringing you have with ur kids 'is' you organising your own point of view/religion accross to them, no?

The point is that Islam isn't a dead religion today solely because of parents brainwashing their children. That is literally the only reason, same for all other organized religions. If everyone was brought up with no religion and were allowed to independently choose their religion as they got older, then Muslims would be almost non-existent very soon.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

[MENTION=17856]Sarbani[/MENTION] address my earlier response please

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

The point is that Islam isn't a dead religion today solely because of parents brainwashing their children. That is literally the only reason, same for all other organized religions. If everyone was brought up with no religion and were allowed to independently choose their religion as they got older, then Muslims would be almost non-existent very soon.

This is an incredibly vacuous argument though; because All cultures , languages and identities that exist today are currently thriving because of parental and/or societal acculturation; what you label as "brainwashing".

You're not born speaking or knowing a language, you're not born claiming you're an Afghan or Pashtun or anything else, Even your model of what you ERRANTLY label "free thinking" inevitably hinges on things you were learned and taught and socialized to accept, you were not born with that information.

Do you suggest we just leave children to become feral? Because if we break it down ANYTHING that we teach children to adapt to societal norms would in effect meet your description of brainwashing.

This demonstrates absurdity of your claim by simple infinite regression. If you accept that socializing children IS NOT brainwashing but a basic human necessity. Then by default Islam also persists on this same notion; it stood the test of time.

Your model lacks precision to really create an effective conclusion it's n effect a form a confirmation; how would we be able to model the variables to isolate a sound conclusion?

[MENTION=1753]Manzareh[/MENTION]