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  • #61
    Actually no, you are failing to realize what the verse is saying.

    Hadhrat Muhammad (saw) actual name is: Muhammad ibn Abdullah. This was confirmed in the Hudaybiyya Treaty.

    Ahmad and all the other names were never used for him.
    Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

    [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

    [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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    • #62
      ^ Ahmad, Akram, Mustafa, Nabi and like this many names were used for him. Now that you don't accept this it's your problem. Whatever floats your boat.

      For a change dance on this song not around the Islamic issues. You've failed once again. You have not been able to prove me wrong. I asked you to bring other members who have always favored you in your discussions or refute the Ahadith or the Quran's verse concerning the name Ahmad specially this one
      إِنَّ لِي أَسْمَاءً: أَنَا مُحَمَّدٌ، وَأَنَا أَحْمَدُ، وَأَنَا الْمَاحِي الَّذِي يَمْحُو اللهُ بِهِ الْكُفْرَ،وَأَنَا الْحَاشِرُ الَّذِي يُحْشَرُ النَّاسُ عَلَى قَدَمَيَّ، وَأَنَا الْعَاقِب

      Translation with Tafseer:

      (I have names. I am Muhammad and Ahmad. I am Al-Mahi through whom Allah will eliminate disbelief. I am Al-Hashir who will be the first to be resurrected, with the people being resurrected Hereafter. I am also Al-`Aqib (i.e., there will be no Prophet after me). Sahi Bukhari

      . You failed so naach meri bulbul.




      This was my last discussion with you on this topic nor do I expect you to comment or ask anything. May Allah (SWT) guide you otherwise you rott in hell with Mirza Ghul.

      Bye
      Last edited by Guest; 08-13-2010, 09:11 PM.

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      • #63
        Your discussion has always been your last one.

        If you have patience I will go deep into the verse. A proper tafseer. If you wish.

        The two names that were used for the Prophet (saw) consistently was Muhammad and Abu Qasem. No other name was used for him.

        Now, imagine if Hadhrat Muhammad (saw) claimed that he is the prophet that Hadhrat Isa (as) mentioned. People will say that your name is Muhammad not Ahmad. Hence, this verse is referring to another prophet by the name of Ahmad.

        If you don't accept Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) as this prophet, then you still have to wait for another prophet with the name Ahmad. This will also kill your idea of finality of prophethood.
        Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

        [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

        [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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        • #64
          Okay. I have had enough.
          Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

          A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

          For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


          The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

          -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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