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  • #31
    Originally posted by Badlun View Post
    can you please prove that what Quran call Ghaib or unseen are physical beings?
    I believe that soul or vital force never dies. After separation of body and soul, the body disappears while the soul remains. Death is just another step towards another life. This is why I am not afraid of death. My death must be celebrated like that of Osho.
    I enjoy discussion with you. Plz keep on.
    Ghayb" is that hidden thing which cannot be perceived by human senses nor can be known through human wisdom. Apart from what Allah has given us knowledge about. Whether something is 'unseen' or whther something has physical attributes are 2 different topics, just because something cannot be seen by us does not mean it doesn't exist in a physical realm. If you want proof of the physical existance of Allah, heaven, satan etc read Surah Al-Ar'af where intricate details about the creation of Adam in a physical heaven and the Devil a physical being. Read Surah Ar-Rahman where similar intimate objects in the unseen are described in fine detail which concludes that these phenomena that you describe as mere figments of the imagination are intact material objects. Infact from a Muslims perspective most of the Quran talks about material objects, so instead of me proving to you that things like judgment day for example is an actual day you should instead prove from the Quran that it's just the normal day to day life that we lead. I'd like to ask from your philosophy of God doesn't exist in a physical form then what is everything created from, where did we come from, evolution? Ask yourself these questions and then look back at the basic teachings that we as Muslims believe in, I'm sure you will find more similarities in Buddhism and Hinduism than Islam, like your friend Mr.Osho. Your an individual that has beliefs of a Hindu yet calls himself a Muslim, and then confident enough to preach a wishy washy philosophy which is neither here nor there..quite peculiar to say the least. From your response it's clear you believe in some sort of reincarnation. I'm not surprised.
    Last edited by Manzareh; 03-20-2015, 10:40 PM.
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    *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

    Originally posted by Karachi
    like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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    • #32
      Seeing how Farkhunda was accused and killed by a shamless mullah, I think the best step would be to get rid of mullah, put them all in jail, or gas them like hitler gassed the jews.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Khostai View Post
        Seeing how Farkhunda was accused and killed by a shamless mullah, I think the best step would be to get rid of mullah, put them all in jail, or gas them like hitler gassed the jews.
        what is a mullah?
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        *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

        Originally posted by Karachi
        like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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        • #34
          ".....Mullah (/ˈmʌlə, ˈmʊlə, ˈmuːlə/; Arabic: ملا‎, Turkish: Molla) is derived from the Quranic term Mawla. However, due to the ambiguous and varied use of the term in the Quran, some publishers have described its usage as a religious title as unquranic.[1] Nonetheless it still sometimes used to refer to a Muslim man or woman, educated in Islamic theology and sacred law. The title, given to some Islamic clergy, is derived from the Arabic word مَوْلَى mawlā, meaning "vicar," "master" and "guardian." In large parts of the Muslim world, particularly Iran, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Afghanistan, Eastern Arabia, Turkey and the Balkans, Central Asia, the Horn of Africa and South Asia, it is the name commonly given to local Islamic clerics or mosque leaders.[2]....."


          So you want to abolish Mullahs, meaning no Mosque leaders, no religious scholars, no teachers etc so where will people learn Islam from? Google? not practical, everyone will be like headless chickens running around and making their own Islam taking teachings from mullahs of other religions like badlun and co. Its in the interest of enemies of Islam to scapegoat Mullahs for obvious reasons.
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          *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

          Originally posted by Karachi
          like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
            ".....Mullah (/ˈmʌlə, ˈmʊlə, ˈmuːlə/; Arabic: ملا‎, Turkish: Molla) is derived from the Quranic term Mawla. However, due to the ambiguous and varied use of the term in the Quran, some publishers have described its usage as a religious title as unquranic.[1] Nonetheless it still sometimes used to refer to a Muslim man or woman, educated in Islamic theology and sacred law. The title, given to some Islamic clergy, is derived from the Arabic word مَوْلَى mawlā, meaning "vicar," "master" and "guardian." In large parts of the Muslim world, particularly Iran, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Afghanistan, Eastern Arabia, Turkey and the Balkans, Central Asia, the Horn of Africa and South Asia, it is the name commonly given to local Islamic clerics or mosque leaders.[2]....."


            So you want to abolish Mullahs, meaning no Mosque leaders, no religious scholars, no teachers etc so where will people learn Islam from? Google? not practical, everyone will be like headless chickens running around and making their own Islam taking teachings from mullahs of other religions like badlun and co. Its in the interest of enemies of Islam to scapegoat Mullahs for obvious reasons.
            You are the enemy of Islam by supporting evil besewd people to represent Islam and muslims. You should be eliminated, you are a cancer to the muslims and Afghan society.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Khostai View Post
              You are the enemy of Islam by supporting evil besewd people to represent Islam and muslims. You should be eliminated, you are a cancer to the muslims and Afghan society.

              You want to eliminate people that teach Islam, Islamic scholars, Mosque leaders etc then where will people learn Islam from?? cancer afghan society blah blah, its a simple question no need to go off topic.
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              *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

              Originally posted by Karachi
              like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                You are the enemy of Islam by supporting evil besewd people to represent Islam and muslims. You should be eliminated, you are a cancer to the muslims and Afghan society.



                This is coming from a communist who were colluding with the Russians to commit genocide of Afghans for praying munz and not letting their daughters wear skirts.

                Go back to Moscow, Khostovsky.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Manzareh View Post


                  So you want to abolish Mullahs, meaning no Mosque leaders, no religious scholars, no teachers etc so where will people learn Islam from? Google? not practical, everyone will be like headless chickens running around and making their own Islam taking teachings from mullahs of other religions like badlun and co. Its in the interest of enemies of Islam to scapegoat Mullahs for obvious reasons.
                  I like this approach. This is secularism. Mullah in mosque is not a problem. Mullah should govern our religious rites, prayers etc but should not run the economy, politics, society and culture. This is separation of spiritual and mundane. Mullah for spiritual and other professionals for their own areas. Mullah should not run the parliament or the court or treasury. That is not his job.

                  Law should control the headless chicken not a Mullah. Mullah can give moral or spiritual lessons or sermons but he should have no power to implement moral edicts. this is the function of state.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                    I like this approach. This is secularism. Mullah in mosque is not a problem. Mullah should govern our religious rites, prayers etc but should not run the economy, politics, society and culture. This is separation of spiritual and mundane. Mullah for spiritual and other professionals for their own areas. Mullah should not run the parliament or the court or treasury. That is not his job.

                    Law should control the headless chicken not a Mullah. Mullah can give moral or spiritual lessons or sermons but he should have no power to implement moral edicts. this is the function of state.
                    Spiritually and practical life are synonymous in Islam. It doesn't make sense as a Muslim to pick and choose half of Islam (just the spiritual side) and abolish what God says about the practical life, what's the point obeying what you want and purposefully ignoring his laws, morals etc. therefore a mullah is not restricted to giving speeches in Parliament or having a view outside of spiritual aspects. I do believe the title of mullah needs better regulating, nowadays everyone calls them self a mullah, I believe it needs to be a better official qualification.
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                    *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                    Originally posted by Karachi
                    like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                    • #40
                      Calm down everyone.

                      When I said devil, what I meant was the White man and when I said Satanic influences, I meant Western culture.

                      The physical devil is the European and waswasah is the process of Westernization.
                      [COLOR=red][B]I am Mleccha, slayer of Aryan swine.[/B]
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                      [COLOR=red][COLOR=#000000]Pakistanis immigrate to the Gulf or to the West for a better life but Afghans immigrate to Pakistan for a better life, what does that tell you?[/COLOR]
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                      [COLOR=green][B]Afghanis who hate Pakistan are namak haram parasites.[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=red]

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Black Pakistani View Post
                        Calm down everyone.

                        When I said devil, what I meant was the White man and when I said Satanic influences, I meant Western culture.

                        The physical devil is the European and waswasah is the process of Westernization.
                        yeah stop listening to black music which is controlled by the white man. keeping you blacks mentally enslaved into a ghetto culture and glorifying the corruption in the suburbs.
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                        *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                        Originally posted by Karachi
                        like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                          yeah stop listening to black music which is controlled by the white man. keeping you blacks mentally enslaved into a ghetto culture and glorifying the corruption in the suburbs.
                          I don't listen to hip hop or rap or any Western music for that matter.
                          [COLOR=red][B]I am Mleccha, slayer of Aryan swine.[/B]
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                          [COLOR=red][COLOR=#000000]Pakistanis immigrate to the Gulf or to the West for a better life but Afghans immigrate to Pakistan for a better life, what does that tell you?[/COLOR]
                          [/COLOR]
                          [COLOR=green][B]Afghanis who hate Pakistan are namak haram parasites.[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=red]

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