The Mu'tazilah, Founders of the Islamic Golden Age

[RevolutionThroughReason]

It's weak faith when you don't belief the mentioning of how God created Adam.

I'm sure the apple tastes good.

That's what you've been brainwashed to think because you're weak in faith in how you understand the Qur'an

Apples are Halal; you should really abandoning this Christian-like attitude to Islam.

[faye]

God is a trickster. Creates humans with all those weaknesses and tendencies, including the desire to break rules, then sticks the juicy fruit there and says' do not touch',. Lol, what a rascal, eh?

[Daruish]

Wait a second. Who said that that non-Arabs did not contribute? The fact still remains that the we the Arabs contributed the most.

The oldest Arabic scripture, Kufic, was invented in modern day Iraq. So yes, the modern day Iraqis (being the ancestors of the ancient Semetic civilizations and Arabs) can claim it more than anyone else.

And cities you mean those in current day Iraq since that was were the al-khilafa al-abbasiyyah was based for 500 years.

And the text that were translated from Greek to Arabic and latter European languages were originally copied from the ancient Babylonians and Mesopotamians since the Greeks got most of their ideas from there like the Persians and most other civilizations due to Mesopotamia/Babylonia having an much older culture. Science and math especially.

I think brother badmash-kehl found an excellent article that stated how the Persians copied the ancient Semetic civilizations in Iraq and later claimed it as their own.

You were all camel riding nomads, what you knew about culture and science?
Ze shir e Shotor o Gosht e Sosmaar
Arab ra ba jahe Rasedast kaar
Ke Takht e Kayan konad arezo
Tuff o bar to hay charkh e gardon tuff
From camel milk and meat of snake...Arab has dare to hope for throne of Persia...spit on you o world spit. Fardawsi 1000 years ago.

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

That's what you've been brainwashed to think because you're weak in faith in how you understand the Qur'an

Apples are Halal; you should really abandoning this Christian-like attitude to Islam.

I thought we believed in wheat, not apple?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

They way people like Kais portray Allah, makes him seem like this guy who likes playing mind games with people just to torment them.

This is why Mutaziliyeen took a different approach; Because No Just Being would do that.

[کیش]

That's what you've been brainwashed to think because you're weak in faith in how you understand the Qur'an

Apples are Halal; you should really abandoning this Christian-like attitude to Islam.

Nothing christian about what is written in the Quran,


*"And O Adam! Dwell you and your wife in Paradise, and eat thereof as you both wish, but approach not this tree otherwise you both will be of the Zalimun (unjust and wrong-doers)."*
(* سورة الأعراف *, Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #19)

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

You were all camel riding nomads, what you knew about culture and science?
Ze shir e Shotor o Gosht e Sosmaar
Arab ra ba jahe Rasedast kaar
Ke Takht e Kayan konad arezo
Tuff o bar to hay charkh e gardon tuff
From camel milk and meat of snake...Arab has dare to hope for throne of Persia...spit on you o world spit. Fardawsi 1000 years ago.

Arabs are far better than you.

Atleast they have made profits from their oil and their women don't dye their hair blonde.

[کیش]

God is a trickster. Creates humans with all those weaknesses and tendencies, including the desire to break rules, then sticks the juicy fruit there and says' do not touch',. Lol, what a rascal, eh?

God is a tester. Watching how his slaves act and react to situations. If they follow his words, or if they try to find meanings to what they read, and compare with what they see with their eyes.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

You were all camel riding nomads, what you knew about culture and science?
Ze shir e Shotor o Gosht e Sosmaar
Arab ra ba jahe Rasedast kaar
Ke Takht e Kayan konad arezo
Tuff o bar to hay charkh e gardon tuff
From camel milk and meat of snake...Arab has dare to hope for throne of Persia...spit on you o world spit. Fardawsi 1000 years ago.

Dariush; Arabs, persians , Turks and everyone else contributed a lot; Go search the Abbasid Dynasty, everyone from persian to Arabs, were there, and it wasn't Persians teaching the Arabs, Arabs taught Persians, Persians taught Arabs. A Mutual exchange of Knowledge.


Before Islam the Persians used to have sex with their own sisters, not cousins, BUT sisters; It is better to ride Camels and eat snakes than do that.

This isn't an attack on Persians; but an attack on arrogance. Humble yourself.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Arabs are far better than you.

Atleast they have made profits from their oil and their women don't dye their hair blonde.

some Arab women do dye their hair blond lol.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

God is a tester. Watching how his slaves act and react to situations. If they follow his words, or if they try to find meanings to what they read, and compare with what they see with their eyes.

So according to you, God plays mind games with people.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Nothing christian about what is written in the Quran,


*"And O Adam! Dwell you and your wife in Paradise, and eat thereof as you both wish, but approach not this tree otherwise you both will be of the Zalimun (unjust and wrong-doers)."*
(* سورة الأعراف *, Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #19)

But something very Christian about the context that you understand the verse. remember God created the archetypes in Heaven before they came to Earth

[کیش]

So according to you, God plays mind games with people.

look how chalak you are by putting different words to my statements.

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

some Arab women do dye their hair blond lol.

In these times, even my cousin's Pakistani ex did.

But its sort of like a cultural practice amongst Persians.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Just as a reminder to Darius on why he should have some humility

I agree with you Dariush; .....Al-Arab is a piece of trash Arab-Nationalist dirt bag, who tries to hide his inflated Arab ego by acting like he's a pious Muslim.

BUT that doesn't mean you should do the same and act just like him with big ego.

Like I ssaid I don't want to attack Persians, everyone has flaws, Pashtuns, Tajiks/Persians, Hazaras and Arabs.

But if you think the "Aryans" had higher civilization than the Arabs before Islam you're mistaken. ALLOW me to humble you.

Zoroastrian religion in the Sasanian society also led to the rise of next-of-kin marriage (khevtuk-das).[2] Men were allowed to marry their daughters, sisters, and mother. It was "not merely tolerated, but indeed regarded as acts of piety and great merit, and even efficacious against the demonic forces."[1] The religious leaders of the time promoted marriage within the family, claiming it imitated the creation. Moreover, priests claimed that incestuous marriage "produced stronger males, more virtuous females, and higher quality and quantity of children, and it protected the purity of the race and propagated it."[2] This was met by much resistance, led to more conversions from Zoroastrians to Christianity, and is thought to have led to the downfall of the Zoroastrian religion.