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  • NOI are a bunch of clowns. They Killed brother Malcolm X. Read his autobiography, Hakim.

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    • Originally posted by کیش View Post
      That doesn't even make sense.
      It does, you think how you're taught to see the Qur'an is what the Qur'an is; but the way i understand it, if God created Nature and the Qur'an how can they be in conflict? The overwhelming evidence shows that evolution happened, that isn't a hypothesis, first there was the hypothesis THEN the evidence to support it. That must mean the Qur'an must be saying something different than what you understand of it.
      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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      • Guys if you haven't figured it out yet, Hakim just says a bunch of nonsense to troll the forum. He's even admitted this before. Don't try to engage in a serious debate with him, he's clowning you guys.

        Just a heads up.
        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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        • Originally posted by کیش View Post
          NOI are a bunch of clowns. They Killed brother Malcolm X. Read his autobiography, Hakim.
          Yes, but they are 1000x better than skinheads.
          Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

          Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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          • The Quran is quite clear. Your suppose to follow the words of it, like it was mentioned. You have what it looks like weak faith if your believe in nature than what was communicated from god to the Messenger.

            Evolution is a hypothesis about creation; if God didn't mention it, then I don't believe in it. If the Lord says it is true, then that is only when I will believe in it.

            Evolution is the apple that tempted Eve then Adam.

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            • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
              Guys if you haven't figured it out yet, Hakim just says a bunch of nonsense to troll the forum. He's even admitted this before. Don't try to engage in a serious debate with him, he's clowning you guys.

              Just a heads up.
              The careful observer needs not to be warned.

              One can clearly see what I am doing here.

              For example, I thanked both yours and Kaish's posts when you were arguing with each other.
              That is what I do and have been doing throughout my life. I like to start and maintain fights between people, but only sometimes.

              Other times I am serious.

              Anyway, I thought we were allied?
              Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

              Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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              • I am not "arguing" with Mahmoud, just having a friendly conversation with another brother.

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                • Originally posted by کیش View Post
                  I am not "arguing" with Mahmoud, just having a friendly conversation with another brother.
                  On this forum, it is arguing.

                  I favor you for now, you are Urguni by descent like me.
                  Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

                  Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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                  • Originally posted by حکیم خان اورګونی View Post
                    The careful observer needs not to be warned.

                    One can clearly see what I am doing here.

                    For example, I thanked both yours and Kaish's posts when you were arguing with each other.
                    That is what I do and have been doing throughout my life. I like to start and maintain fights between people, but only sometimes.

                    Other times I am serious.

                    Anyway, I thought we were allied?
                    we are., that's why I don't come down as hard on you as I do with some other members on here
                    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                    • Originally posted by کیش View Post
                      I am not "arguing" with Mahmoud, just having a friendly conversation with another brother.
                      yeah by trying to use the uneducated Mullah tactic of "scaring" people into conformity. it doesn't work on me though
                      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                      • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                        we are., that's why I don't come down as hard on you as I do with some other members on here
                        I take back what I wrote in my last post.
                        Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

                        Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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                        • Originally posted by کیش View Post
                          The Quran is quite clear. Your suppose to follow the words of it, like it was mentioned. You have what it looks like weak faith if your believe in nature than what was communicated from god to the Messenger.

                          Evolution is a hypothesis about creation; if God didn't mention it, then I don't believe in it. If the Lord says it is true, then that is only when I will believe in it.

                          Evolution is the apple that tempted Eve then Adam.


                          That's the thing though, you can't "follow" the words about how God created things, those aren't orders.

                          and don't pull this "weak faith" card on me; ....for you to suggest that somehow Nature exists beyond God demonstrates that somehow you think Nature would contradict God, which means you're ignoring God's position as Creator. That would characterize weak faith, not my position.

                          The whole "evolution is what tempted eve" is just an uneducated Mullah scare tactic; which by the way is NOT stated in the Qur'an that's YOUR OWN spin, reinforcing what said earlier and contradicting your own advice.
                          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                          • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                            yeah by trying to use the uneducated Mullah tactic of "scaring" people into conformity. it doesn't work on me though
                            If the Mullah tactic is promoting what was communicated from Allah to Muhammad (PBUH), then I am guilty of that.

                            I am saying you are tempted by the juicy apple that the lord ordered Adam and Eve not to eat. Ibliss did a heck of a job if he got Adam to bite it even after getting lecture by the lord personally.

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                            • There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                              Sayyid Qutb

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                              • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                                That's the thing though, you can't "follow" the words about how God created things, those aren't orders.

                                and don't pull this "weak faith" card on me; ....for you to suggest that somehow Nature exists beyond God demonstrates that somehow you think Nature would contradict God, which means you're ignoring God's position as Creator. That would characterize weak faith, not my position.

                                The whole "evolution is what tempted eve" is just an uneducated Mullah scare tactic; which by the way is NOT stated in the Qur'an that's YOUR OWN spin, reinforcing what said earlier and contradicting your own advice.
                                It's weak faith when you don't belief the mentioning of how God created Adam.

                                I'm sure the apple tastes good.

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