The Israeli Sufi

[badmash_khel]

lol
you guys are some hippie graveworshippers i dont need to respect rumi or banjan.

walley toba webasem?wali rumi se khudey dey ka payghambar?

der besharma insan ye, yaw musalman ta waye "graveworshipper".
Have you read the Hadith which says to falsely call someone kafir makes you the kafir. why so careless with your mouth? learn to control it.

Toba zeka obasa che yaw musulman pesai de Tomat welagawa, khijalat war da.

khudai de hidayat darki.

[badmash_khel]

to his buddy shams

Say Like this.If anyone wonders how Jesus raised the dead,
Don't try to explain the miracle.
Kiss me on the lips.
Like this. Like this."
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"I asked for a kiss you gave me six. Whose pupil were you to become such a master? Full of kindness, generosity... You are not of this world."
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"The minute I heard my first love story
I started looking for you,
not knowing how blind that I was

Lovers don't finally meet somewhere
They're in each other all along."

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"Come, come again, whoever you are, come!
Heathen, fire worshipper or idolatrous, come!
(OSHO HERE HE IS CALLING YOU)
Come even if you broke your penitence a hundred times,
Ours is the portal of hope, come as you are."

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"By love, dead are made to live
By love, the sovereign is made a slave.
For Lovers the faith and religion is God"
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Typical ignorant interpretation. I pity the fools

I bet shadow thinks the part where he says "Lovers don't finally meet somewhere
They're in each other all along." refers to sexual intercourse. Such are the minds which are filled with filth.

[faye]

are you sure he wasn't talking of god as his lover. not all of that looks like your claim.
his buddy was a boy?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

yes rumi was deep into bacha bazi

Just like the Taliban

[faye]

lol
you guys are some hippie graveworshippers i dont need to respect rumi or banjan.

walley toba webasem?wali rumi se khudey dey ka payghambar?

hippies don't worship graves. i don't know that they worship anything. i certainly don't.
stop with the hysteria.

[badmash_khel]

did i strike a sufi nerve?

i wasnt thinking that but it seems you were.

OK shodowgai

If you have read the poetry of Rahman Baba (ra) you will know that he praises Rumi, so why the hell was Rahman Baba praising a bachabaz (god forbid)?

What proof do you have of his so called bachabazi?

a few misintereped poems is not gonna cut it. Do you have any historical proof that he was involved in such activity. Would a bachabaz be a respected hafiz of the Quran, a Qadhi, and an authority in Islam?

Read about him from authentic sources and those salafi and wahabi propaganda which aims to divide the muslims into sects.

[faye]

hippi in the sense of weirdos not the original ones.

don't use hippie as weirdo. in general, the straight living people are the weird ones. the ones who do things like vote for george bush.
using hippie in that connotation is like using ba***rd, child out of wedlock, as a negative insult.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

no it was outlawd in the time of taliban or have you red too many khalid husseini books.

You read too many Saudi Arabian books.

[faye]

interesting how mass is such a thin veneer.
revo, do you think mass will disappear when they create more powerful magnification?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

no

and you say you're from Kunar? ask people who he is, his Shrine is in Kunar

[Mujib]

Mawlana Rumi (ra) was one of the great friends of Allah (awliya). Allah Most High says that He declares war on those who show enmity to a friend (wali) of His.

One who does not understand a thing should keep quiet and not earn themselves sin through their tongues.

[Afghanistan2010]

Jalaludin Rumi (rah) was not wrong as the people accuse him of some doings,the islamic emirate has praised him,but Allah knows best who is waliullah.

[Blue Flower]

This thread started very nicely but it became ordinary after that, one point i want to make is that Ibn Arabi [R -A] IS considered as Shaikh in tasawuf , Rumi [R -A] also came to his shrine and spend much time reading his works and benifited from him . There are no basic versions of Sufism all stress in God's love.

When u say grave worship do u consider angels worshipped Adam if yes than did God asked them to do Shirk , we know they bowed in respect which is called sajda-e-tazeemi it was not sajda-e-ibadat.

I am not convincing guys which are against tasawuf because how can u convince a dog to drink Zam Zam water beacause he will lick it in the same way he licks , those who see graves being worshipped even dogs donot pee on their graves.

[Afghanistan2010]

If any human bow downs to another human,he has comitted shirk.

quote end.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

nobody cares about worshiping graves in kunar so you FAILED.

I never said they did; Grave Worship is merely a pejorative Wahhabists invented.

so why do they build Shrines for Saints

making a post mindlessly claiming victory for yourself isn't an answer.