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  • #31
    Originally posted by Khostai View Post
    Girls and younger women of my family that live in europe don't wear head scarfs only the older generation like my mother and uants they do cover there head but not like in the picture more like most Afghan women do....
    Where in Europe ?

    And you can't generalise while you talk about your family and friends.
    High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
      Where in Europe ?
      Belgium I think.

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      • #33
        We agree with that people who has less to do with islam,will ever hold to islamic laws,that is the thing he misunderstood.

        And we don't mind this.

        But when he speaks of the believers he can't argue with his family.
        He as a user here,we have known him for hatred toward islam,we have no knowledge how his family thinks about islam.

        A saying says : that the apple does not land far away from the tree,lets await his reply.
        High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by al-arab
          That is very sad development. Is it from free will or forced in the west because of very stupid laws against Muslim and anti-islam law?

          You should tell them as fellow Muslim and as a man how they should dress to not bring harm to family and get into dangers. Many violent things happen against Muslims in the West.

          Is it because of discrimination?

          No they have chosen it for them self, my family doesn't make that big a deal of it, if they wear modest clothes they don't mind it.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
            Where in Europe ?

            And you can't generalise while you talk about your family and friends.
            I am not generelazing a full room whith 800 peopel where something like 400 of them are women and you see only 1 or 2 girls whith a headscarf is not something that you can say of Pashtun women are wearing proper hijab....

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
              We agree with that people who has less to do with islam,will ever hold to islamic laws,that is the thing he misunderstood.

              And we don't mind this.

              But when he speaks of the believers he can't argue with his family.
              He as a user here,we have known him for hatred toward islam,we have no knowledge how his family thinks about islam.

              A saying says : that the apple does not land far away from the tree,lets await his reply.
              I have only hatred to dum imbecile peopel like you who grolifies death, torture, suiciede bombing. I don't have any problem whith Islam, it's just I am not not pro taliban an barabrism that you like so much that's why you think I am agianst it....

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              • #37
                I live in the Netherlands, but have family from Italy, to Switzerland and even Sweden. More than maybe 100 of them I know personal, another hundred maybe by face. No one in my family I have ever seen from all these countries wear a headscarf. Non. not even grandmother or so. I might have like 20 family members in D.C. and they are probably more American then Americans. And yeah here in Europe, at least the Netherlands Afghan and pashtun woman dont wear headscarfs, its more like an arab thing, and no one here wants to associate themselves with arabs. Or berbers like here in holland, everyone hates them. Just wanted to say.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by shadowgoverner
                  da se bakwas kay?
                  not everyone is like your family
                  I know you american muslims are a bit more extreme and stuff, but seriously come to an Afghan wedding here in Western Europe, mostly man and women together, no scarfs, and its not only my family. BTW have you ever walked in Kabul, especially the modern parts? Some women wear even hotter clothes than in the west, with a scarf that cover 10% of their hair.
                  Last edited by KingOfAriana; 05-08-2012, 01:43 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by al-arab
                    Keep stupid racist post away from this. I have been to Europe also and nobody hates Arabs or Muslims only people with hatred in their hearts. Most Muslims are close frineds despite being Arab, Berber or different nations. I am sure our European resident Muslims can tell more about this than me.

                    I have distant family in Spain and Denmark and I cannot recognize your picture.

                    And why should people hate Arabs? We have not done anything evil to anyone nor attacked a non-Arab country in many, many years. You should stop generalizing. We are peaceful people who have suffered much and have a lot of problems ourselves. We only defend ourselves from invadors and people who will harm us as proper Muslims.

                    Please do not spread false hatred.
                    Everyone hates arabs, westerners, blacks and even your fellow muslims. You yourself are very racist people, just look how you threat immigrants in arab countries, you eat as much as you want, build the highest buildings in the world, while your own muslim brothers in somalia die, or leave alone somalie, your own arab brothers in iraq (well iraqis are not really arabs, more like sudanese, like only by culture) but also arab countries like palestine( dont get me wrong, I am 100% pro israel), so you guys are the most arrogant, racist and egoistic *******s this world knows. Thats why everyone hates you, btw you also destroyed my country with your jihadist ideas and your brother osama.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by shadowgoverner
                      dont talk ****
                      i understand you are young and bumb but you should watch out when you talk about muslim Afghans.

                      maybe in your family they dont wear headscarves,no wonder they didnt even teach you islam or hwo to be Afghan or pashto.

                      keep quite ,listen and learn.
                      You shut up. I am kunari and kandahari, so dont say that i am not pashtun or Afghan and yes they have. I dont know from which hole you hailed but not everyone in Afghanistan looks like this:


                      lets hope Afghanistan returns to the way it was before arabs and pakis:

                      ‫كابول - كابل - افغانستان قبل kabul Ariana afghanistan before:1979‬‎ - YouTube
                      and dont get me wrong, i am not a communist but even after all that war people didnt wear hijab, watch:
                      Najibullah Parade : President of Afghanistan - YouTube
                      Last edited by KingOfAriana; 05-08-2012, 01:59 PM.

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                      • #41

                        As they say in Dari, " yaa ney ney, yaa dey dey.."
                        Half of you are in 16th century and the other half in 23rd. Why can't afghans be moderate thinkers?? You can't communicate with each other if you don't take care of that gap in between and if you can't communicate then there is no peace. You can blame others all you want but that right there is the root of all our problems. No one will stop messing with us out of their own goodness unless we stop killing each other. let each other be. We have bigger issues to worry about. Okay, I need fresh air.

                        I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                        non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by al-arab
                          Brother do not waste energy with him I think he is double profile or the thing troll (user who provokes to stir trouble up with propaganda and lies)

                          Just see his messages and username. It is very clear his intentions.

                          Just his discription of his family etc. can one only laugh. 100 percent pro-zionist, noone wears hijaab in Afghanistan etc. nonsense.
                          I have never said everyone in my family is pro-israel. I am. But I mean I have to because I am bani Israel. And no iraqis are not arab, they became arabized, only peninsulan people are real arabs, though there were also many migrations from east africa to yemen for example. But still, iraqis are not arabs.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post

                            As they say in Dari, " yaa ney ney, yaa dey dey.."
                            What does that mean ?

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by shadowgoverner
                              chup
                              kalakhamey podarey.
                              koley roz Afghana ra bad meygey,besharam.
                              kujai tu ba afghan memana k iqa khezak mezani??
                              Shut up or I will get someone to pick you up and smash you on the floor while I watch you spit out chunks of your lungs before you die.

                              I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                              non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by al-arab
                                KingsofAriana:

                                Written 1 week ago:

                                "I agree with most of the pashtunwali, only I dont know if I am a muslim or not. I mean i dont pray, havent read the quran, neither been to a mosque, but when we go to a trip, i still kiss it and I believe it is the right religion. I think it was isteqmat or so, trust in god, and thats what I have, so yeah. Pashtunwali4ever. "

                                Later in this thread he talks about what the noble Qur'an says and do not.

                                "Give me the verse where it explicitly states that a WOMAN MUST COVER HER HAIR OR FACE , if you cant it just proves that it is just a bull**** myth."

                                He makes no sense at all and gives bad talk of Pashtun's. He is probably not even Pashtun with such many lies/propaganda and non-Muslim/non-Pashtun behaviour.
                                Pashtuns are nothing and with that I repeat nothing like arabs. The only thing we have in common is islam, you are mostly wahabis and pashtuns can be sunnis, sufis, very few shias, soe very modern, some more like you wahabis, but in general less violent and extremist than you arabs. We pashtuns/afghans dont eat the same you do, we dont speak the same language, we dont dress like you, we dont behave like you and we dont have the same attitudes like you. So how can you judge who I am?

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