Mawlid or Milad (an Nabi)

[Afghanistan2010]

asSalamu `alaykum

Wrora, this is sincere advice. Please humble yourself. If you want to acquire a deep understanding of Islam, go and seek it with an open and sincere heart from those who have a chain of transmission to the Prophet sallaLlahu `alayhi wa sallam in sacred knowledge. Pa khudai di mi kasam wi, internet forums and youtube videos and such will do nothing other than make you one-sided and eventually either stubborn, confused or burned-out. Just think about it, acquiring knowledge in such a manner is so against the methodology of the Sunnah and the traditional approach that no wonder it is so devoid of barakah and leads to only more confusion. So please, and I only speak from my mistakes and experience, have a sense of accountability when typing because this is the religion of Allah and not of any scholar or group. Please don't take offense, this is as much of a reminder for myself as it is for everyone else.

As for the mawlid, there are GIANTS, and I can't do justice to the word giants, on both sides of the issue. And I'm not talking about contemporary scholars. Therefore, one should stick with whichever position one finds stronger and leave it at that. Insults and criticism are not needed.

From what I've observed, I assume that you are a follower of the noble Deoband tradition. Here is an article by Shaykh Taha Karaan (Allah preserve him) who graduated from Darul Uloom, Deoband and resides in South Africa currently and follows Shafi`i fiqh. He is an open supporter of the mawlid.

The Celebration of Mawlid in Light of the Shafi’i School
http://www.shafiifiqh.com/the-celebr...80%99i-school/

In this clip, Shaykh Taha explains the mawlid from around 9 minutes although the whole clip is very beneficial.
http://www.shafiifiqh.com/audiovideo/stahamadhhab/4.mp3

This is to show the validity of differing with regards to this matter and not to prove which opinion is stronger.

And Allah knows best.

Why some people accept and some unaccept the celebration of the prophet (pbuh )? What is your opinion?

Praise be to Allaah.
There is nothing in the Qur’aan to say that we should celebrate the Mawlid or birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The Prophet himself (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do this or command anyone to do it, either during his lifetime or after his death. Indeed, he told them not to exaggerate about him as the Christians had exaggerated about Jesus (upon whom be peace). He said: “Do not exaggerate about me as the Christians exaggerated about the son of Maryam. I am only a slave, so say, ‘The slave of Allaah and His Messenger.’” (Reported by al-Bukhaari). What has been reported is that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) made the day of his birth a day of worship, which is different to celebration. He was asked about fasting on Mondays, and he said: “That is the day on which I was born and the day on which I was entrusted with the Mission or when I was first given Revelation.” (Reported by Muslim, al-Nisaa’i and Abu Dawood).
Moreover, we know that the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) were the people who loved the Prophet most. Was it reported that Abu Bakr, who was the closest of people to him and the one who loved him the most, celebrated the birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? Was it reported that ‘Umar, who ruled for twelve years, or ‘Uthmaan, did this? Was it reported that ‘Ali, his relative and foster son, did this? Was it reported that any of the Sahaabah did this? No, by Allaah! Is it because they were not aware of its importance, or did they not truly love the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? No one would say such a thing except one who has gone astray and is leading others astray.
Did any of the imaams – Abu Haneefah, Maalik, al-Shaafi’i, Ahmad, al-Hasan al-Basri, Ibn Seereen – do this or command others to do it or say that it was good? By Allaah, no! It was not even mentioned during the first and best three centuries. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said in a saheeh hadeeth: “The best of mankind are my generation (or my century), then those who come after them, then those who come after them. Then there will come a people who will not care if their testimony comes before their oath or vice versa (i.e., they will not take such matter seriously).” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, Muslim and al-Tirmidhi). The celebration of the Prophet’s birthday appeared many centuries later, when many of the features of true religion had vanished and bid’ah had become widespread.
Thus this celebration became a sign of one’s love for the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? But can it be possible that the Sahaabah, the imaams and the people of the best three centuries were unaware of it, and it was only those who came later who were aware of its importance?! What the Qur’aan tells us is that love of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is demonstrated by following the guidance he brought. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Say (O Muhammad): ‘If you (really) love Allaah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Say: ‘Obey Allaah and the Messenger.’ But if they turn away, then Allaah does not like the disbelievers.” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:31-32]
The first aayah explains that love is just a claim, but the proof of sincerity is following what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) brought. The second aayah reaffirms the importance and necessity of obeying Allaah and His Messenger. Hence Allaah ended the aayah with a very stern warning in which those who refuse to obey are described as kaafirs, and Allah does not love the disbelievers. We ask Allaah to keep us safe from that. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us of the danger of not obeying him, and the danger of adding to what he brought. The celebration of Mawlid or his birthday is indeed an addition to what he brought – as all the scholars agree. He said: “The best of speech is the Book of Allaah, and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. The most evil of things are those which are newly-invented (in religion), and every innovation is a going astray.” (Reported by Muslim and al-Nisaa’i).
We ask Allaah to protect us from bid’ah and to bless us by helping us to follow. Allaah knows best. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad.

Islam Q&A

[Gulbabo]

you have to be specific when you mention the word 'celebration'..... no one plays music and dances or buys gift for each other on our Prophet's birthday. getting together to ead dorood and salamz, or other nasheeds should n't be considered celebration. his birth was/is a joyous occasion for all of us!

going overboard with it is of course not allowed.

[Talib Jan]

As you said lets not talk about the contemporary scholars and lets go back to the original source that are our standards. Let's talk about Sahaba kiraam.
Can you show me a single hadees or any other statement in which it is said Sahaba kiraam R.A used to celebrate this day ?

Ok, yes I agree let's go back. As the salaf us-salih (righteous predecessors) used to say, what is more important than the words of the Prophet sallaLlahu `alayhi wa sallam is the meaning of the words of the Prophet sallaLlahu `alayhi wa sallam. It is easy for us to pick up a book of hadith and look through it and say "hey there aren't any ahadith which say that the Prophet and Sahabah celebrated mawlid?!?!" Sorry but that's not how fiqh works; I suggest a study of usul ul-fiqh (priniciples/foundations of fiqh) to get an understanding of how and why there's a difference in this issue and differing in general. This is what scholars who have spent their lives, from cradle to grave, such as al-Hafiz ibn Hajar al-Haytami, `Allamah Jalaluddin as-Suyuti, Hafiz ibn Kathir and many others (Allah have mercy on them) in order to understand the meaning of the Shari`ah and how it functions; there is a system in place and it is not as simple as hadith searching. SubhanAllah, I understand that you may not agree and that's fine, but when one criticizes giants such as these whose knowledge and understanding of Islam (which includes hadith) scholars from all schools attest to, it really shows the level of our understanding. We are skipping the inheritors of the Prophet sallaLlahu `alayhi wa sallam to try to get to him. I really don't understand the logic.

And to clarify, mawlid does not mean that one goes the whole year without celebrating the Prophet's sallaLlahu `alayhi wa sallam birth and then all of a sudden on the 12th of Rabi` al-Awwal people show up to eat halwa. No one agrees with that. Actually several masjids in my area don't even celebrate on the exact day but rather increase their celebration in this month. And by celebration what is meant is the recitation of the Qur'an, narrating of the seerah and birth of the Prophet sallaLlahu `alayhi wa sallam from hadith, poetry in praise of the Prophet sallaLlahu `alayhi wa sallam, reviving the love and Sunnah in our lives, etc. It is a month when one charges their battery for Rasulullah sallaLlahu `alayhi wa sallam, something desperately needed in our time.

Why some people accept and some unaccept the celebration of the prophet (pbuh )? What is your opinion?

My opinion is worth nothing when great scholars have already spoken on the issue. The reason why some accept and some reject is due to the actual celebration and what it entails. The fatwa you posted is from a salafi site which you can feel free to follow but know that it takes a literalistic approach and does not take into consideration the great scholars who have approved the mawlid.


Again, there's a known difference. Let's accept it and move on.



And Allah knows best.

[Afghanistan2010]

Ok, yes I agree let's go back. As the salaf us-salih (righteous predecessors) used to say, what is more important than the words of the Prophet sallaLlahu `alayhi wa sallam is the meaning of the words of the Prophet sallaLlahu `alayhi wa sallam. It is easy for us to pick up a book of hadith and look through it and say "hey there aren't any ahadith which say that the Prophet and Sahabah celebrated mawlid?!?!" Sorry but that's not how fiqh works; I suggest a study of usul ul-fiqh (priniciples/foundations of fiqh) to get an understanding of how and why there's a difference in this issue and differing in general. This is what scholars who have spent their lives, from cradle to grave, such as al-Hafiz ibn Hajar al-Haytami, `Allamah Jalaluddin as-Suyuti, Hafiz ibn Kathir and many others (Allah have mercy on them) in order to understand the meaning of the Shari`ah and how it functions; there is a system in place and it is not as simple as hadith searching. SubhanAllah, I understand that you may not agree and that's fine, but when one criticizes giants such as these whose knowledge and understanding of Islam (which includes hadith) scholars from all schools attest to, it really shows the level of our understanding. We are skipping the inheritors of the Prophet sallaLlahu `alayhi wa sallam to try to get to him. I really don't understand the logic.

And to clarify, mawlid does not mean that one goes the whole year without celebrating the Prophet's sallaLlahu `alayhi wa sallam birth and then all of a sudden on the 12th of Rabi` al-Awwal people show up to eat halwa. No one agrees with that. Actually several masjids in my area don't even celebrate on the exact day but rather increase their celebration in this month. And by celebration what is meant is the recitation of the Qur'an, narrating of the seerah and birth of the Prophet sallaLlahu `alayhi wa sallam from hadith, poetry in praise of the Prophet sallaLlahu `alayhi wa sallam, reviving the love and Sunnah in our lives, etc. It is a month when one charges their battery for Rasulullah sallaLlahu `alayhi wa sallam, something desperately needed in our time.

You assumed just because i widely agree with the Darul Uloom Deoband,i would also agree with all the people who learned there or teached there,they are human as you and i and they too do many errors,
for example the tablighi claim also to be part of the students of Darul Uloom,but yet i do not accept them nor their work as being part of the sunnah,who am i ? , nobody,but even the scholars reffered to their works.

You claim that As Syouti (rah) gave fatawaas on Mawlid,yet he must show evidence to give such a fatawaa,fiqh if it funtions as you mentioned,then ever scholar would give fatawaas like machines and give their own opinion on certain issues,that would lead to the destruction of islam.

To give fatawaa you have to proof it by Sunnah and Quran and on the tradition of the salaf as salihin especially the tabieen.

They can only give their opinion if they have a hadith or quranic verse,with the opinion of the sahaba ikraam (rad) and the tabe'ien.

Again, there's a known difference. Let's accept it and move on.

There is difference,but one should not stick to the opinion of a single person,like some sufis do they keep the saying of their peer above the saying of the Prophet (pbuh).

If it was something proved and good it would have been made publicly like the two Eid's.

[torkham]

BTW - this muslim country uae where I work had a 'dry day' yesterday. 'dry' - this means no alcohol was allowed to be served in alcohol serving venues (hotel based clubs and bars). so when it is mawlid no alcohol, other days, it is happy hour all hours.

[Alchemist]

History of the Mawlid The Mawlid in Makkah According to Muslim Historians-Celebration of the Birthplace of the Prophet

Makkah, the Mother of cities, may Allah bless and honour her, is the leader of other Islamic cities in the celebration of Mawlid as in other things. In his book Akhbar Makka, Vol. 2, p. 160, the 3rd-century historian of Makkah, al-Azraqi, mentions as one of the many places in Makkah in which the performance of salah is desirable (mustahabb), the house where the Prophet was born (Mawlid al-Nabi). According to him, the house had previously been turned into a mosque by the mother of the caliphs Musa al-Hadi and Harun ar-Rashid.
The Qur'anic scholar al-Naqqash (266-351) mentions the birthplace of the Prophet as a place where du'a by noon on Mondays is answered. He is quoted in al-Fasi's Shifa' al-gharam Vol. 1, p. 199, and others.

Earliest Mentions of the Public Mawlid

The oldest source that mentions a public commemoration of the Mawlid is in Ibn Jubayr's (540-614) Rihal ("Travels"), p. 114-115:
"This blessed place [the house of the Prophet] is opened, and all men enter it to derive blessing from it (mutabarrikin bihi), on every Monday of the month of Rabi' al-Awwal; for on that day and in that month was born the Prophet."
The 7th-century historians Abul 'Abbas al-'Azafi and his son Abul Qasim al-'Azafi wrote in their unpublished Kitab ad-durr al-munazzam:
"Pious pilgrims and prominent travellers testified that, on the day of the mawlid in Makkah, no activities are undertaken, and nothing is sold or bought, except by the people who are busy visiting his noble birthplace, and rush to it. On this day the Ka'ba is opened and visited."
Ibn Battuta's Account of the Mawlid
The famous 8th-century historian Ibn Battuta relates in his Rihla, Vol. 1, p. 309 and 347, that on every Friday, after the salah, and on the birthday of the Prophet, the door of Ka`ba is opened by the head of the Banu Shayba, the doorkeepers of the Ka'ba, and that on the Mawlid, the Shafi'i qadi (head judge) of Makkah, Najmuddin Muhammad Ibn al-Imam Muhyiddin al-Tabari, distributes food to the shurafa' (descendants of the Prophet and to all the other people of Makkah.

The beginning of the celebration of the Meelad Shareef in its present form lies with the ruler of Irbil, Sultan Muzaffar whose full name is Abu Said Kukabri Ibn Zain al-Din Ali Ibn Baktagin, who is counted among the great Sultans and generous leaders. Ibn Kathir (alaihir rahmah) writes about Sultan Muzaffar as follows: "Sultan Muzaffar used to arrange the celebration of the Meelad Shareef with due honour, glory, dignity and grandeur. In this connection, he used to organise a magnificent festival. He was a pure-hearted, brave and wise Alim and a just ruler. May Allah shower His Mercy on him and grant him an exalted status.
Sheikh Abu al-Khattab Ibn Dhiyah also wrote a book for him on the Meelad Shareef entitled 'al-Tanwir fi Mawlid al-Bashir al-Nadhir (Enlightenment on the Birthday of the Bearer of Good News, the Warner). For this book Sultan Muzaffar awarded him a gift of one thousand dinars. Sultan Muzaffar remained the ruler until his death, which occurred in 630 A.H. in the city of 'Akka when he had the Europeans under seige.
Sibt Ibn al-Jauzi (alaihir rahmah) wrote in Mir'at al-Zaman that eminent pious Ulama and illustrious Sufis used to attend the Meelad Shareef ceremony held by the Sultan, who used to honour them with robes of distinction and royal favour. Every year his expenditure on the Meelad Shareef amounted to three hundred thousand dinars. For those coming from outside (the city) he had a special guest house commissioned, where people from all walks of life used to come from different places and without any discrimination of status.
Three 10th-Century Accounts of Mawlid-
The following description consolidates eyewitness accounts by three 10th-century authorities: the historian Ibn Huhayra from his al-Jami' al-latif fi fasl makka wa ahliha; al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar al-Haytami from his Kitab al-mawlid ash-sharif al-mu' azzam, the historian al-Nahrawali from al-i'lam bi-a'lam bayt Allah al-haram. A fourth account by al-Diyarbakri (d. 960) in his Tarikh al-khamis correlates exactly with the following:
Each year on the 12th of Rabi al-Awwal, after the evening prayer, the four qadis of Makkah (representing the four Sunni Schools) and large groups of people including the scholars (fuqaha') and notables (fudala') of Makkah, Shaykhs, zawiya teachers and their students, magistrates (ru'asa'), and scholars (muta' ammameen) leave the mosque and set out collectively for a visit to the birthplace of the Prophet Salla Allahu Ta'ala alayhi wa Sallam, shouting out dhikr and tahlil (la ilaha illa Allah).
The houses on the route are illuminated with numerous lanterns and large candles, and a great many people are out and about. They all wear special clothes and they take their children with them. Having reached the birthplace, inside a special sermon for the occasion of the birthday of the Prophet Salla Allahu Ta'ala alayhi wa Sallam is delivered, mentioning the miracles (karamat) that took place on that occasion. Hereafter, the invocation for the Sultan (i.e. the Caliph), the Amir of Makkah, and the Shafi`i qadi is performed and all pray humbly.
Shortly before the night prayer, the whole party returns from the birthplace of the Prophet Salla Allahu Ta'ala alayhi wa Sallam to the Great Mosque, which is almost overcrowded, and all sit down in rows at the foot of the Maqam Ibrahim. In the Mosque, a preacher first mentions the tahmid (praise) and the tahlil, and once again the invocation for the Sultan, the Amir, and the Shafi'i qadi is performed. After this the call for the night prayer is made, and after the prayer the crowd disperses.

Abu Qatada al-Ansari narrates in Sahih Muslim, Kitab al-siyam, that the Prophet was asked about the fast of Monday, and he answered: "That is the day that I was born and that is the day I received the prophecy



Kitab al-Madkhal by Ibn al-Hajj (1:261):

"It is an obligation that on every Monday of Rabi` ul- Awwal we increase our worship to thank Allah for what He gave us as a great favor -- the favor of sending us His beloved Prophet to direct us to Islam and to peace... The Prophet, when answering someone questioning him about fasting on Mondays, mentioned: On that day I was born. Therefore that day gives honor to that month, because that is the day of the Prophet... and he said: I am the master of the children of Adam and I say that without pride... and he said: Adam and whoever is descended from him are under my flag on the day of Judgment. These hadiths were transmitted by the Shaikhayn [Bukhari and Muslim]. And Muslim quotes in his Sahih, the Prophet said, On that day, Monday, I was born and on that day the first message was sent to me."

To express happiness for the Prophet coming to us is an obligation given by Allah through Qur'an, as Allah said in Qur'an: "Of the favor and mercy of Allah let them rejoice" (10:58).

"Allah and His angels are praying on (and praising) the Prophet; O believers! pray on (and praise) him and send him utmost greetings" (33:56).

Expressing happiness and celebrating the Prophet on his birthday causes even unbelievers, by Allah's favor and mercy, to gain some benefit. This is mentioned in Sahih Bukhari. Bukhari said in his hadith that every Monday, Abu Lahab in his grave is released from punishment because he freed his handmaid Thuwayba when she brought him the news of the Prophet's birth.
This hadith is mentioned in Bukhari in the book of Nikah, and Ibn Kathir mentions it in his books Sirat al-Nabi Vol.1, p. 124, Mawlid al-Nabi p. 21, and al-Bidaya p. 272-273. The hafiz Shamsuddin Muhammad ibn Nasiruddin ad-Dimashqi wrote on this the following verses in his book Mawrid as-sadi fi Mawlid al-Hadi : "If this, a kafir who was condemned to hell eternally with "Perish his hands" [sura 111], is said to enjoy a respite every Monday because he rejoiced in Ahmad: what then do you think of the servant who, all his life, was happy with Ahmad, and died saying, "One"?"

The Prophet was happy with good poetry since it is reported in Bukhari's al-Adab al-mufrad and elsewhere that he said: "There is wisdom in poetry." Thus the Prophet's uncle al-`Abbas composed poetry praising the birth of the Prophet, in which are found the following lines:
When you were born, the earth was shining, and the firmament barely contained your light, and we can pierce through, thanks to that radiance and light and path of guidance.

This text is found in Suyuti's Husn al-maqsid p. 5 and in Ibn Kathir's Mawlid p. 30 as well as Ibn Hajar's Fath al-Bari .

Ibn Kathir mentions the fact that according to the Sahaba, the Prophet praised his own name and recited poetry about himself in the middle of the battle of Hunayn in order to encourage the companions and scare the enemies. That day he said: "I am the Prophet! This is no lie. I am the son of `Abd al-Muttalib!"

The Prophet was therefore happy with those who praised him because it is Allah's order, and he gave them from what Allah was providing him. If we get together and do something in order to approach the Prophet, we are doing something to approach Allah, and approaching the Prophet will make Allah happy with us.

Singing and Recitation of Poetry:

It is established that the Prophet instructed `A'isha to let two ladies sing on the day of `Eid. He said to Abu Bakr: "Let them sing, because for every nation there is a holiday, and this is our holiday" [Agreed upon]. Ibn Qayyim in Madarij al-salikin comments that the Prophet also gave permission to sing in wedding celebrations, and allowed poetry to be recited to him. He heard Anas and the Companions praising him and reciting poems while digging before the famous battle of the Trench (Khandaq), as they said: "We are the ones who gave bay`a to Muhammad for jihad as long as we are living."

Ibn Qayyim also mentions `Abdullah ibn Rawaha's long poem praising the Prophet as the latter entered Mecca , after which, the Prophet prayed for him. He prayed that Allah support Hassan ibn Thabit, with the holy spirit as long as he would support the Prophet with his poetry. Similarly the Prophet rewarded Ka`b ibn Zuhayr's poem of praise with a robe. The Prophet asked Aswad bin Sarih to make poems praising Allah, and he asked someone else to recite the poem of praise of 100 verses which Umayya ibn Abi al- Salt had composed. Ibn Qayyim continues, "`A'isha always recited poems praising him and he was happy with her."

This Umayya ibn Abi al-Salt is a poet of Jahiliyya who died in Damascus before Islam. He was a pious man who had relinquished the use of wine and the worship of idols, as related by Dhahabi in Siyar a`lam al-nubala' (2:23).

Part of the funeral eulogy Hassan ibn Thabit recited for the Prophet states:

I say, and none can find fault with me But one lost to all sense: I shall never cease to praise him. It may be for so doing I shall be for ever in Paradise With the Chosen One for whose support in that I hope. And to attain to that day I devote all my efforts.(1)

Singing and Recitation of Qur'an:

As Ibn al-Qayyim says in his book, "Allah gave permission to his Prophet to recite the Qur'an in a melodious way. Abu Musa al- Ash`ari one time was reciting the Qur'an in a melodious voice and the Prophet was listening to him. After he finished, the Prophet congratulated him on reciting in a melodious way and said, "You have a good voice." And he said about Abu Musa al-Ash`ari that Allah gave him a "mizmar" (flute or horn) from Dawud's mizmars. Then Abu Musa said, "O Messenger of Allah, if I had known that you were listening to me, I would have recited it in a much more melodious and beautiful voice such as you have never heard before."

Ibn Qayyim continues, "The Prophet said, "Decorate the Qur'an with your voices," and "Who does not sing the Qur'an is not from us." Ibn Qayyim comments: "To take pleasure in a good voice is acceptable, as is taking pleasure in a nice scenery, such as mountains or nature, or from a nice smell, or from good food, as long as it is conforming to Shari`a. If listening to a good voice is haram, then taking pleasure in all these other things is also haram."

The Prophet Allowed Drum-Playing For A Good Intention:

Ibn `Abbad the Muhaddith gave the following fatwa in his "Letters." He starts with the hadith, "One lady came to the Prophet when he was returning from one of his battles and she said, "Ya Rasulallah, I have made an oath that if Allah sends you back safe, I would play this drum near you." The Prophet said, "Fulfill your oath." The hadith is found in Abu Dawud, Tirmidhi, and Ahmad.

Ibn `Abbad continues, "There is no doubt that the playing of a drum is a kind of entertainment, even though the Prophet ordered her to fulfill her oath. He did that because her intention was to honor him for returning safely, and her intention was a good intention, not with the intention of a sin or of wasting time. Therefore, if anyone celebrates the time of the birth of the Prophet in a good way, with a good intention, by reading Sira and praising him, it is accepted."

Speaking of the greatness of the day of Jum`a (Friday), the Prophet said in his hadith: "On that day [i.e. Jum`a], Allah created Adam." This means that the day of Friday is emphasized because Allah created Adam on that day. That day is emphasized because it saw the creation of the prophet and father of all human beings. What about the day when the greatest of prophets and best of human beings was created? The Prophet said: "Truly Allah made me the Seal of prophets while Adam was between water and clay." This hadith is related by Ahmad in the Musnad, Bayhaqi in Dala'il al-Nubuwwa and others, and is sound and established as authent

Imam Qastallani said in his commentary on Bukhari: "In his book on Jana'iz (Funerals), Bukhari named an entire chapter "Dying on Monday." In it there is the hadith of `A'isha relating her father's (Abu Bakr al-Siddiq) question: "On which day did the Prophet die?" She replied: "Monday." He asked: "What day are we today?" She said, "O my father, this is Monday." Then he raised his hands and said: "I beg you, O Allah, to let me die on Monday in order to coincide with the Prophet's day of passing."

Imam Qastallani continues, "Why did Abu Bakr ask for his death to be on Monday? So that his death would coincide with the day of the Prophet's passing, in order to receive the baraka of that day... Does anyone object to Abu Bakr's asking to pass away on that day for the sake of baraka? Now, why are people objecting to celebrating or emphasizing the day of the Prophet 's birth in order to get baraka?"

Majma` Fatawa Ibn Taymiyya , Vol. 23, p. 163 and his Iqtida' al-sirat al-mustaqim , p. 294-295, Section entitled: "The innovated festivities of time and place" (ma uhditha min al-a`yad al-zamaniyya wa al-makaniyya):

And similarly what some people innovate by analogy with the Christians who celebrate the birth of Jesus, or out of love for the Prophet and to exalt him, and Allah may reward them for this love and effort, not on the fact that it is an innovation... To celebrate and to honor the birth of the Prophet and to take it as an honored season, as some of the people are doing, is good and in it there is a great reward, because of their good intentions in honoring the Prophet.

[Afghanistan2010]

1.This text is not from you.

2.It talks about the first monday of Rabial Awwal like the jews about the Sabbat.

3.It speaks about Ibn Kathir that he praised someone who is called Sultan Muzaffar which was the Sultan of Irbil,in the North of Iraq that he was the first who started the Mawlid,which is flawed,it is falsely attributed to him,rather it were the Fatamids shiites of Egyp who were the first who started this bidah.

further there is no mentioning of ibn kathir (rah) regarding mawlid in his lenghty work of Seerah of the Prophet (pbuh)
They also falsely attributed a Book to the great Hafiz Ibn Kathir (rh)
which is here :

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Refutation is here :

Then what ibn Katheer mentions in the section on the Prophetic biography in his ‘Bidaayah wan
Nihaayah’, and in his lengthy ‘Seerah’ and in the sections of ‘Ikhtisaar Seerah ar-Rasool’, and in his
stand alone treatise on the Mawlid published with the tahqeeq of Salaah ad-Deen al-Manjad, and in
his revision to the Mawlid of his shaykh Kamaal ad-Deen Abee Ma’aalee Muhammad bin Alee al-
Ansaaree contained in the section detailing ‘Dalaa’il an-Nubuwwah’ in his ‘Bidaayah wan Nihaayah’
– he does not present anything in these concerning the celebration of the Mawlid of the Prophet
(sallallaahu `alaihi wasallam) and neither of the evil practices that have occurred amongst the later
generations with respect to the Mawlid. Therefore as long as the matter is like this then we cannot

accept the claim of the author of that article.

if we go further to quote the Hafidh Ibn Kathir (rah) as following :

Al-Haafiz Ibn Katheer said in al-Bidaayah wa’l-Nihaayah (13/137), in his biography of Abu Sa’eed Kazkaboori: “He used to observe the Mawlid in Rabee’ al-Awwal and hold a huge celebration on that occasion… some of those who were present at the feast of al-Muzaffar on some occasions of the Mawlid said that he used to offer in the feast five thousand grilled heads of sheep, ten thousand chickens and one hundred thousand large dishes, and thirty trays of sweets… he would let the Sufis sing from Zuhr until Fajr, and he himself would dance with them.”

Below the full detailed explanation.
http://www.hoor-al-ayn.com/articles/...lid%20Book.pdf

[Afghanistan2010]

The Ulema of Deoband :

Quote:


“The celebration of the mawlid is an innovation in religion. Neither was it the practice of the Prophet صلى الله عليه و سلم nor did the companions or tabi’een celebrate this occasion.


“Allamah Anwar Shah Al-Kashmiri has said,
وأحدثه صوفي في عهد سلطان إربل سنة ( 600 ) ، ولم يكن له أصل من الشريعة الغراء
العرف الشذي شرح سنن الترمذي - (2 / 82 مؤسسة ضحى للنشر والتوزيع)


“A sufi innovated it in the era of Sultan Irbil around the year 600 A.H, and it does not have any basis in our pure Shariah.”

Scholars state that the first person to introduce the innovation (bid'a) of celebrating the Milad was the ruler of Irbil, Muzaffar ad-Din ibn Zain al-Din. This was six centuries after the period of prophet hood.


Allaamah Muizzuddin Hasan Khwaarzimi states in his book, Al-Qawl al Mu’tamad,

“The Ruler of Irbal, King Muzaffar Abu Saeed Kaukari, was an irreligious and prodigal king. He ordered the scholars of his time to act according to their opinions and discard the practice of following any school of law. A group of learned men inclined towards him. He (this king) organized Mawlood sessions during the month of Rabi al Awwal. He was the first king ever to introduce this practice.”
A ‘scholar’ by the name of Abul Khattab Umar bin Hasan bin Dihya Al Andalusi supported and assisted the king in this innovation.

Allamah Ibn Kathir (May Allah Ta'ala have mercy on him) has reported on the authority of As-Sabt about this person,
قال السبط: وقد كان كابن عنين في ثلب المسلمين والوقيعة فيهم، ويتزيد في كلامه فترك الناس الرواية عنه وكذبوه
(البداية والنهاية - 13 / 169دار إحياء التراث العربي)
“Ibn Unain (Ibn Dihya) used to insult the Muslims and vilify them. He would make additions in his report and exaggerate. The people stopped narrating traditions from him and falsified him.” (Al-Bidaya wa al-Nihaya, 3/144-146)


Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani (May Allah Ta'ala have mercy on him) has commented on him,

وكان ظاهري المذهب كثير الوقيعة في الأئمة وفي السلف من العلماء خبيث اللسان أحمق شديد الكبر قليل النظر في أمور الدين متهاونا
(لسان الميزان - 4 / 296مؤسسة الأعلمي للمطبوعات – بيروت)


“He was a follower of the Zahiri school of thought and often slandered the scholars and the scholars of the past. He possessed an evil tongue and was stupid, self-conceited, lacked insight in religious matters, and looked down upon religion.” (Lisan al-Mizan, 4/296)”


What you and mujib and the other posted Addition :



They even attribute it to Ibn Hajar al Asqalani (rh) another lie.

[Talib Jan]

You assumed just because i widely agree with the Darul Uloom Deoband,i would also agree with all the people who learned there or teached there,they are human as you and i and they too do many errors,
for example the tablighi claim also to be part of the students of Darul Uloom,but yet i do not accept them nor their work as being part of the sunnah,who am i ? , nobody,but even the scholars reffered to their works.

You claim that As Syouti (rah) gave fatawaas on Mawlid,yet he must show evidence to give such a fatawaa,fiqh if it funtions as you mentioned,then ever scholar would give fatawaas like machines and give their own opinion on certain issues,that would lead to the destruction of islam.

To give fatawaa you have to proof it by Sunnah and Quran and on the tradition of the salaf as salihin especially the tabieen.

They can only give their opinion if they have a hadith or quranic verse,with the opinion of the sahaba ikraam (rad) and the tabe'ien.

There is difference,but one should not stick to the opinion of a single person,like some sufis do they keep the saying of their peer above the saying of the Prophet (pbuh).

If it was something proved and good it would have been made publicly like the two Eid's.

Yes, I am sorry for assuming that you followed the Deobandi school and its scholars. Again my intention was not to prove one side but to show that there's a difference and it should be respected. As for the opinion of Imam Suyuti (ra) it is well-known and probably one of the most famous on this issue. He has written on small treatise on the issue which can be found here:

http://www.maktabah.org/index.php/co...id-suyuti.html

I really don't like going back and forth on forums so insha'Allah I'll leave it here with this last fatwa:

http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-stud...ah-bin-bayyah/

May Allah reward you for your pure and sincere intention on holding firm to the Qur'an and Sunnah. Ameen.

BTW - this muslim country uae where I work had a 'dry day' yesterday. 'dry' - this means no alcohol was allowed to be served in alcohol serving venues (hotel based clubs and bars). so when it is mawlid no alcohol, other days, it is happy hour all hours.

Wow, how unfortunate. Maybe this day will serve as a realization for some and will be a means for them to stop this evil act insha'Allah.

[Alchemist]

The Ulema of Deoband :

Quote:


“The celebration of the mawlid is an innovation in religion. Neither was it the practice of the Prophet صلى الله عليه و سلم nor did the companions or tabi’een celebrate this occasion.


“Allamah Anwar Shah Al-Kashmiri has said,
وأحدثه صوفي في عهد سلطان إربل سنة ( 600 ) ، ولم يكن له أصل من الشريعة الغراء
العرف الشذي شرح سنن الترمذي - (2 / 82 مؤسسة ضحى للنشر والتوزيع)


“A sufi innovated it in the era of Sultan Irbil around the year 600 A.H, and it does not have any basis in our pure Shariah.”

Scholars state that the first person to introduce the innovation (bid'a) of celebrating the Milad was the ruler of Irbil, Muzaffar ad-Din ibn Zain al-Din. This was six centuries after the period of prophet hood.


Allaamah Muizzuddin Hasan Khwaarzimi states in his book, Al-Qawl al Mu’tamad,

“The Ruler of Irbal, King Muzaffar Abu Saeed Kaukari, was an irreligious and prodigal king. He ordered the scholars of his time to act according to their opinions and discard the practice of following any school of law. A group of learned men inclined towards him. He (this king) organized Mawlood sessions during the month of Rabi al Awwal. He was the first king ever to introduce this practice.”
A ‘scholar’ by the name of Abul Khattab Umar bin Hasan bin Dihya Al Andalusi supported and assisted the king in this innovation.

Allamah Ibn Kathir (May Allah Ta'ala have mercy on him) has reported on the authority of As-Sabt about this person,
قال السبط: وقد كان كابن عنين في ثلب المسلمين والوقيعة فيهم، ويتزيد في كلامه فترك الناس الرواية عنه وكذبوه
(البداية والنهاية - 13 / 169دار إحياء التراث العربي)
“Ibn Unain (Ibn Dihya) used to insult the Muslims and vilify them. He would make additions in his report and exaggerate. The people stopped narrating traditions from him and falsified him.” (Al-Bidaya wa al-Nihaya, 3/144-146)


Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani (May Allah Ta'ala have mercy on him) has commented on him,

وكان ظاهري المذهب كثير الوقيعة في الأئمة وفي السلف من العلماء خبيث اللسان أحمق شديد الكبر قليل النظر في أمور الدين متهاونا
(لسان الميزان - 4 / 296مؤسسة الأعلمي للمطبوعات – بيروت)


“He was a follower of the Zahiri school of thought and often slandered the scholars and the scholars of the past. He possessed an evil tongue and was stupid, self-conceited, lacked insight in religious matters, and looked down upon religion.” (Lisan al-Mizan, 4/296)”


What you and mujib and the other posted Addition :



They even attribute it to Ibn Hajar al Asqalani (rh) another lie.

The arabic text that you have copy posted says that in regards to the question of Ibh Hajr...

Ibn Hajr says that is an innovation. And then in the third line he says goes on to say " Inahu kant Bid3atan hasana" ... It was a "Hasan" good innovation.


It's a shame you cant read arabic. And yet you quote something thinking it supports your point but it actually contradicts your point. LOL
Just because it was innovation doesn't mean it was a bad innovation...lots of innovations were introduced into islam after the holy Prophet peace be upon him completed his mission....not all bidah's are haram... and ibn hajr goes on to say that it was a GOOD innovation....but who ever you quoted only translates the first 2 lines and negates the third...this is called 'intellectual deception".

What is highlighted in the text in red says that he spent 300,000 dinars and slaughtered so many chickens and so forth...


Your refutation is of your own making...you are no alim your self. Nice try.

[Afghanistan2010]

The arabic text that you have copy posted says that in regards to the question of Ibh Hajr...

Ibn Hajr says that is an innovation. And then in the third line he says goes on to say " Inahu kant Bid3atan hasana" ... It was a "Hasan" good innovation.


It's a shame you cant read arabic. And yet you quote something thinking it supports your point but it actually contradicts your point. LOL
Just because it was innovation doesn't mean it was a bad innovation...lots of innovations were introduced into islam after the holy Prophet peace be upon him completed his mission....not all bidah's are haram... and ibn hajr goes on to say that it was a GOOD innovation....but who ever you quoted only translates the first 2 lines and negates the third...this is called 'intellectual deception".

What is highlighted in the text in red says that he spent 300,000 dinars and slaughtered so many chickens and so forth...


Your refutation is of your own making...you are no alim your self. Nice try.

Do you fail to read english : I said : what you,mujib and the other guy posted is here it was conclusion what you also said and not what supports my position:

so shut up,i may a layman when it comes to arabic but this i understood.

There is no good innovation after the time of Sahaba Ikram (radiallahanhum),could you please show me a single "GOOD" innovation after the Prophet (pbuh) and his companions (rad).

Sadely he was not beheaded by the iraqi resistance in northern iraq which are today.

[emkhan]

In Islam there are only to EEdain but when you ask the barelvi type people they call this day also an EED day. They claim it to be the third Eed day in Islam. Is it not a biddah. If it was the third eed and so important why did the prophet and his companions not celebrate it though they celebrated the other two Eedain with full enthusiasm.

and do you know who celebrate this day, grave worshippers, barelvits and those who do not have knowledge of Islam and those who claim be the lovers of prophet Muhammad peace be upon him but at the other hand they are drunk, corrupts, take bribes, don't care about the islamic values, don't know what their prophet was sent for, what is the purpose of their life. They just love dance and halwa and khwaaga and sharbat, and rice and ghwakha and eat and drink and gap shap and no salah and no zakah and no haj and don't know even the meaning of the kalima tayyeba.
These type of people claim to be the biggest lovers of prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and consider other Muslims as kafir and munafiqeen.
I think every Muslim should celebrate every day of his life with his beautiful teachings and not with dancing and eating and drinking and calling other munafiqeen and kuffar and considering their own selves to be the biggest Muslims on this planet.

[Alchemist]

^ pfft...

First of all emkhan..
You are the least knowledgeable person on this forum when it comes to Islam.
Pushing blank axioms like "there are only to eedain" blah blah...
You wouldn't know that the holy prophet peace be upon even declared Friday to be a day of Eid. Yes, every friday is a day of Eid!
Now you didn't know that, so your argument of "why did the prophet and his companions" blah blah...is negated as a "fallacy of argument from ignorance".
You are no saint or son of any saint either so please stop making the assertion that "these people are drunk so ..."blah blah...

And 2010,
You quote an Alim you revere who has categorized a bidah as hassan and now you are refuting that Alim on the premise that only those who were companions of the Prophet could make a hassan bidah.
Yet no where in the Qur'an does Allah say that the Sahaba are the only ones who are allowed to make hassan bidah and what followed would be categorically be an evil innovation. This is something you are coming up with from your own nafs!

As a matter of fact NOT EVEN the companions of the Holy Prophet peace be upon him are allowed to add or subtract ANYTHING from what the holy Prophet peace be upon him....which is what by definition "Bidah" means! So your premise is actually wrong...if mawlid is wrong then so is every bidah introduced by any of the khulafa after the Holy Prophet peace be upon him!
If you can make a compromise for Bidah introduced by Sahaba then you have to explain why their bidah is hassan....it can't just be assumed that because they had a special aura or divinely chosen for being born in the same generation as the Prophet, peace be upon him.
Unless you can express what the conditions for your special categorization is, then your argument is merely "wishful thinking". No different then what you are arguing against!

Try again.

[Afghanistan2010]

^ pfft...

First of all emkhan..
You are the least knowledgeable person on this forum when it comes to Islam.
Pushing blank axioms like "there are only to eedain" blah blah...
You wouldn't know that the holy prophet peace be upon even declared Friday to be a day of Eid. Yes, every friday is a day of Eid!
Now you didn't know that, so your argument of "why did the prophet and his companions" blah blah...is negated as a "fallacy of argument from ignorance".
You are no saint or son of any saint either so please stop making the assertion that "these people are drunk so ..."blah blah...

So how can one become a saint ? are they the chosen ones ? lol...
The People of Medina were celebrating more than one feast,the Prophet (pbuh) said (meaning) : From this day you have only two feasts,these are the Eidain (the two eids).

And 2010,
You quote an Alim you revere who has categorized a bidah as hassan and now you are refuting that Alim on the premise that only those who were companions of the Prophet could make a hassan bidah.
Yet no where in the Qur'an does Allah say that the Sahaba are the only ones who are allowed to make hassan bidah and what followed would be categorically be an evil innovation. This is something you are coming up with from your own nafs!

As a matter of fact NOT EVEN the companions of the Holy Prophet peace be upon him are allowed to add or subtract ANYTHING from what the holy Prophet peace be upon him....which is what by definition "Bidah" means! So your premise is actually wrong...if mawlid is wrong then so is every bidah introduced by any of the khulafa after the Holy Prophet peace be upon him!
If you can make a compromise for Bidah introduced by Sahaba then you have to explain why their bidah is hassan....it can't just be assumed that because they had a special aura or divinely chosen for being born in the same generation as the Prophet, peace be upon him.
Unless you can express what the conditions for your special categorization is, then your argument is merely "wishful thinking". No different then what you are arguing against!

Try again.

See,you failed to educate yourself in islam,indeed you support such things to bring destruction and difference to islam and weaken the ahlus sunnah by this.

But let me show you alittel more truth while you attribute it to my nafs,that innovation were only allowed by the companions (rd) aswell,now i will show you that it is the saying of the messenger of Allah ( peace and blessing of Allah be upon him).



Nice article by Dr.Ali Gomaa:

Dr. Ali Gomaa
Legislation of adhan and iqama
Allah legislated the adhan [call to prayer] to inform the people that the time for prayer has begun, and to call them to pray while the iqama [call to commence prayer] is made so they stand up and arrange the rows in preparation for prayer.
During the time of the Prophet [pbuh] and his two Companions, Abu Bakr al-Siddiq and `Umar ibn al-Khattab (may Allah be pleased with them both), a single adhan and iqama were legislated for each prescribed prayer and the Friday prayer.

Time of legislation
The adhan was prescribed in the first year after the Prophet’s migration to Medina. This was reported by ‘Abdullah ibn Zayd and `Umar ibn al-Khattab who both testified to have seen the adhan in a dream. This was narrated by al-Tirmidhi, ibn Khuzayma and ibn Hibban who declared it authentic.
`Uthman ibn `Affan (may Allah be pleased with him) introduced the second call for the Friday prayer
When the number of Muslims increased during his reign, `Uthman found it necessary to add a second adhan to the Friday prayer. Because the adhan was legitimate to begin with, there was no harm in adding a second adhan to the Friday prayer at a time when the people needed it. In the same vein, Bilal (may Allah be pleased with him) offered a non-obligatory prayer after each ablution even though no supererogatory prayers were specifically legislated in its regard.

The Companions approved of Sayyidina `Uthman’s introduction of the second adhan
`Uthman (may Allah be pleased with him) did not deviate from the rest of the community when he introduced the second adhan for the Friday prayer. The Companions during his lifetime approved of it and, after him, the practice continued from the time of ‘Ali ibn Abu Talib’s caliphate until today.
Al-Sa`ib ibn Yazid (may Allah be pleased with him) said: “During the lifetime of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), Abu Bakr and `Umar (may Allah be pleased with them), the adhan for Friday Prayer was called after the imam had taken his seat on the pulpit. But, when Muslims increased in number during the time of `Uthman (may Allah be pleased with him), he introduced a third adhan; it was called at al-Zawraa` [a place in the market of Medina]” [Reported by al-Bukhari]. Bukhari called this a third adhan because he referred to the iqama as the second adhan.
Al-Bukhari compiled another version of the hadith narrated by al-Zuhri who said: “I heard al-Sa`ib ibn Yazeed (may Allah be pleased with him) say, ‘During the lifetime of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), Abu Bakr and Umar (may Allah be pleased with them both) the adhan for Friday prayer was called after the imam had taken his seat on the pulpit. But, when Muslims increased in number during the caliphate of `Uthman (may Allah be pleased with him), he ordered a third adhan to be made for the Friday prayer; it was called at al-Zawraa` and the practice was thus established.”

Scholarly opinion
Ibn Hajar al-’Asqalani said in Fath al-Bari (2/394): “It is apparent that at that time, people in all countries followed the practice of `Uthman since he was a Caliph whose orders were to be obeyed … Everything that was not practiced at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is considered bid’a [innovation] some of which are good and others are not. It is evident from what was mentioned earlier, that `Uthman added the second adhan to the Friday prayer to warn the people that its time had entered in analogy to the rest of the prayers, keeping its original adhan that was called when the imam took his seat on the pulpit. The purpose of adding the second adhan to the Friday prayer was inferred from the original aim of adhan (inform people that the time for prayer had entered) and it does not abrogate it.”

A Sunnah from `Uthman (r)
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “Those of you who will outlive me will see many controversies, so follow my sunnah and that of the rightly-guided Caliphs” [ibn Hibban and al-Hakim].
`Uthman (may Allah be pleased with him) is one of the rightly-guided Caliphs. Since the time of the companions until present there has been an unspoken consensus on the admissibility of the second adhan of the Friday prayer. Whoever contests or denies it, challenges the consensus [of the community] and the rituals of Islam that scholars approved of over the course of centuries. Moreover, whoever claims that it is an innovation of misguidance, contests the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) expressed in mass transmitted hadiths stating that Allah will not make the Muslim community agree on a misguidance.
And Allah Almighty knows best.

[emkhan]

^ pfft...

First of all emkhan..
You are the least knowledgeable person on this forum when it comes to Islam.
Pushing blank axioms like "there are only to eedain" blah blah...
You wouldn't know that the holy prophet peace be upon even declared Friday to be a day of Eid. Yes, every friday is a day of Eid!
Now you didn't know that, so your argument of "why did the prophet and his companions" blah blah...is negated as a "fallacy of argument from ignorance".
You are no saint or son of any saint either so please stop making the assertion that "these people are drunk so ..."blah blah...

.

You call me whatever names I don't mind, and I am not a scholar lol. I have not been to any madrassah, even none in my family been to any madrassah. I am from a very simple family background. but this is a very simple and common thing to understand. but none of you answered my simple question that which of the Sahabas' has celebrated this day ? The answer is none.
So why should we ? Sahaba kiraam did everything Rasoolullah told them to do. This should have been the biggest day in Islamic holy days, how can sahaba kiraam miss this day ? First I considered you a good scholar of Islam on pf but not now because you are a barelvit. and it is not so bad to be barelvits but you hide yourself, you hide your school of thought. That is munafiqat.
You better tell us your school of thought, your teachers, your madrassah from where you got your knowledge and all that. You seem to be a confused guy.