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  • #16
    What will happen if a rafidi lay on his back in the bath house or scrub feet with earthenware?

    ما يورث البرص
    عَنْ أَبِى عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ كَانَ أَمِيرُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ يَقُولُ ألا لا يَسْتَلْقِيَنَّ أَحَدُكُمْ فِى الْحَمَّامِ فَإِنَّهُ يُذِيبُ شَحْمَ الْكُلْيَتَيْنِ وَلا يَدْلُكَنَّ رِجْلَيْهِ بِالْخَزَفِ فَإِنَّهُ يُورِثُ الْجُذَامَ (الكافي6/500).

    On authority of Abu Abdullah, he said: Amirul-Mu'mineen used to say: let not any of you lay on his back in the bath (house) for that would melt the fat of the kidneys, nor let any of you scrub his feet with earthenware (sort of rocks) for that causes leprosy. (Al-Kafi 6/500)





    What is the cause of leprosy?

    الشبع يورث البرص
    عَنْ أَبِى عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ الْأَكْلُ عَلَى الشِّبَعِ يُورِثُ الْبَرَصَ (الكافي6/269).

    On authority of Abu Abdullah, he said: Eating to fill causes leprosy. (Al-Kafi 6/269)






    Is it allowed for a rafidi to eat in Egyptian vessels?

    الاغتسال بإناء من فخار مصر يجعلك ديوثا
    عَنْ أَبِى الْحَسَنِ الرِّضَا قَالَ سَمِعْتُهُ يَقُولُ وَ ذَكَرَ مِصْرَ فَقَالَ قَالَ النَّبِىُّ ص لَا تَأْكُلُوا فِى فَخَّارِهَا وَ لَا تَغْسِلُوا رُءُوسَكُمْ بِطِينِهَا فَإِنَّهُ يَذْهَبُ بِالْغَيْرَةِ وَ يُورِثُ الدِّيَاثَةَ» (الكافي6/386 و501).

    On the authority of Aba Hasan Al-Redha, said I heard him saying when Egypt was mentioned, he said: The prophet said, never eat in her (Egypt) earthenware (vessels) nor clean your heads with its mud, for verily it removes jealousy (of a man for his woman) and make you Daiyus (man who don't mind his women having illicit relations with other men) (Al-Kafi 6/386,501)






    What causes Tuberculosis?

    لزوم الحمام يورث السل
    عن أبي الحسن الرضا قال « وَإِيَّاكَ أَنْ تُدْمِنَهُ فَإِنَّ إِدْمَانَهُ يُورِثُ السِّلَّ» (الكافي6/497).

    Frequenting Bath-House Causes Tuberculosis
    On authority of Abul-Hasan al-Ridha, he said: Be aware to get addicted to it, for its addiction causes tuberculosis. (Al-Kafi 6/497)






    Healthy teeth?

    استعمال السواك في الحمام يورث مرض الأسنان
    وَ يُكْرَهُ السِّوَاكُ فِى الْحَمَّامِ لِأَنَّهُ يُورِثُ وَبَاءَ الْأَسْنَانِ (من‏لايحضره‏الفقيه1/53).

    "And it is dislike using siwak (cleaning stick for teeth) in toilets because it causes teeth epidemic. (Mein La Yahzarhu Al-Faqih 1/53)





    Benefits of carrots

    أكل الجزر يسخن الكليتين ويقيم الذكر
    هكذا حكاها الكيني عن أبي عبد الله (الكافي6/372) يسخن الكليتين ويقيم الذكر ويعين على الجماع.

    Eating Carrots heats your kidneys, erects your penis and helps in intercourse.(Al-Kafi 6/372)







    Side effects of watermelon

    أكل البطيخ يورث الفالج
    عَنِ الرِّضَا ع قَالَ الْبِطِّيخُ عَلَى الرِّيقِ يُورِثُ الْفَالِجَ نَعُوذُ بِاللَّهِ مِنْهُ (الكافي6/361).

    Eating Watermelon Causes Hemiplegia:
    On authority of al-Ridha, he said: Eating watermelon (prior to any meal) causes hemiplegia, we seek refuge in Allah from that. (Al-Kafi 6/361)






    Drinking water at night.

    شرب الماء من الليل يورث الماء الأصفر
    عن أبي عبد الله قال « وشرب الماء من قيام بالليل يورث الماء الأصفر» (الكافي6/383).

    Drinking Water - while standing - at night causes infliction with Yellow Liquid:
    On authority of Abu Abdullah, he said: Also, drinking water while standing - at night - causes infliction with the yellow liquid. (Al-Kafi 6/383)





    Conversation during intercourse.

    الكلام أثناء الجماع يورث الخرس
    عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ سِنَانٍ قَالَ قَالَ أَبُو عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع اتَّقُوا الْكَلَامَ عِنْدَ مُلْتَقَى الْخِتَانَيْنِ فَإِنَّهُ يُورِثُ الْخَرَسَ» (الكافي5/498).

    Conversation during intercourse causes dumbness:
    On authority of Abdullah Bin Senan said: Abu Abdullah (as) said, fear conversation during rendezvous (meeting) of private parts, for verily it causes dumbness. (Al-Kafi 5/498)






    Looking at female organ

    النظر إلى فرج المرأة يورث العمى
    وكَرِهَ النَّظَرَ إِلَى فُرُوجِ النِّسَاءِ وَ قَالَ يُورِثُ الْعَمَى وَ كَرِهَ الْكَلَامَ عِنْدَ الْجِمَاعِ وَ قَالَ يُورِثُ الْخَرَسَ (من لا يحضره الفقيه3/556).

    Looking at the vulva of a woman causes blindness:
    He disliked looking at the vulva of a woman and said it causes blindness and disliked conversation during intercourse and said it causes dumbness (Mein La Yahzarhu Al-Faqih 3/556)


    Also confirmed by ayatullah shirazi

    http://www.shirazi.org.uk/sex.htm

    Do not speak while lovemaking, for if a child were conceived, he would not be immune from being dumb.

    One should not look into his wife’s vagina for this brings about blindness (in the child).






    Benefits of Sprout

    كلوا السداب لتخرج عقولكم من السرداب
    رووا عن أبي الحسن أنه قال « كلوا السداب فإنه يزيد في العقل» (الكافي6/367) (والسداب هو الفيجن).

    Chapter Regarding Sprout (As-Sadaab)
    It was narrated on the authority abul-Hasan that he said: Sprout increases intelligence. (Al-Kafi 6/367)






    Medical benefits of eating mud

    أكل التراب شفاء من كل داء
    عن أبي الحسن قال « كُلُّ طِينٍ حَرَامٌ مِثْلُ الْمَيْتَةِ وَ الدَّمِ وَ لَحْمِ الْخِنْزِيرِ إلا طِينَ قَبْرِ الْحُسَيْنِ فَإِنَّ فِيهِ شِفَاءً مِنْ كُلِّ دَاءٍ وَ لَكِنْ لا يُكْثَرُ مِنْهُ وَ فِيهِ أَمَانٌ مِنْ كُلِّ خَوْفٍ» (الكافي3/378).

    Eating mud cure from every illness:
    On authority of Abu Abdullah, he said: Every mud is haram (to eat) in likeness to dead and the meat of pig except the mud over the grave of Hussein, for verily in it there is cure for every illness but should not take it excessively and (also) in it there is security from fear (Al-Kafi 3/378)






    Black Shoe Yellow shoe.

    "Narrated to us my father (ra) saying: Narrated Ahmad bin Idris saying: Narrated to me Muhammad bin Ahmad, from Musa bin Omar, from Abdallah bin Jablah, from Hanan bin Sudair who said: I entered on Abu Abdallah (as) wearing a black shoe, and he said: Why are you wearing a black shoe? Did you not know there are three characteristics in it? The narrator said: I said, what are they, may I be your ransom? He (as) said: It weakens your vision, loosens your penis and brings you depression. On top of that, it is part of the arrogant apparel. Wear the yellow shoes, for in it is three characteristics. The narrator said: I said, what are they? He (as) said: It sharpens the vision, strengthens the penis and puts away the depression, and furthermore, it is part of the Prophets [as] apparel".
    (al-Khisaal: Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi, Chapter of the Three, Vol 1, narration 50, p.99)





    Rafidi men with female organ

    "Narrated Muhammad, from Ahmad bin Muhammad, from Ali bin al-Hakam, from Abdul-Rahman al-'Azramy, from Abu Abdullah [as] said: Amirul-Mu'mineen (Ali) [as] said: There are servant (men) of Allah who carry in their loins uteruses like those of women. (Abu Abdullah) Said: He was asked: Then Why they don't get pregnant? He (Ali) said: Because it is (placed) upside down. They also have glands in their anuses like that of the camel, if erupted they erupt with it, and if it cooled down, they cool down with it."
    (al-Kafi (fil Furoo'): al-Kulainy, Book of Nikaah, Chapter: Who Let Others Sexually Molest Him, vol.5, p.549, narration 3.)
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Qrratugai View Post
      ^ I believe in discussions and debates. What that means is, you *quote* him verbatim -- don't tell us what he says or what he means or what he believes. Quite him exactly and give us evidence that he said that.

      THEN, you explain to us *why, in your opinion*, he is misinterpreting something. And if you're gonna use certain scholars to back YOUR views up, not only will you need convincing arguments but evidence from the Quran and hadiths -- and you'll have to explain to us why the commentaries you picked and chose are superior to others and/or why we need to believe them over everyone else.

      You'll also have to understand a major fact that's important for discussing and studying religions: Everything is about interpretation, particularly who's doing the interpretation. Why should we trust Interpreter A's interpretation over Interpreter B's?

      You gotta keep these things in mind. If you're willing to do at leas this much, along with not passing judgments and making baseless conclusions and learning the etiquette of debates, I am willing to debate why Shiism is perfectly Islamic or why it makes sense and why nothing is wrong with it even from an Islamic perspective.

      Deal?
      Read what I have posted.
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      • #18
        how to develop big buttocks in women.

        From top Rafidi site for books and hadeeths
        http://www.rafed.net/books/hadith/wa...1/v20.html#258

        محمد بن يعقوب ، عن محمد بن يحيى ، عن محمد بن الحسين ، عن محمد بن قبيصة ، عن عبدالله النيسابوري ، عن هارون بن موسى ، عن أبي مسلم ، عن أبي العلاء الشامي ، عن سفيان الثوري ، عن أبي زياد ، عن الحسن بن علي ( عليه السلام ) قال : قال رسول الله ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) : أطعموا حبالاكم اللبان ، فإن الصبي إذا غذي في بطن أمه باللبان اشتد قلبه وزيد عقله ، فإن يك ذكرا كان شجاعا ، وإن ولدت أنثى عظمت عجيزتها فتحظى عند زوجها .

        Narrated) Muhammad b. Yahya, from Muhammad b. al-Husain, from Muhammad b. Qubaisah, from Abdullah al-Nisapori, from Haron b. Muslim, from Abu Musa, from Abul-'Alaa' al-Shami, from Sufian al-Thawri, from Abu Ziad, from al-Hasan b. Ali [as]: The Messenger Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam said:

        "Feed your pregnant women the gum, for the infant if fed while in his mother's womb with gum, his heart will be stronger and his intelligence increases. Should the (infant) be a boy, he will be brave, and if it was a girl, she will have a big buttocks and subsequently be favord by her husband."



        وعن عدة من أصحابنا ، عن سهل بن زياد ، عن محمد بن علي ، عن محمد بن سنان ، عن الرضا ( عليه السلام ) قال : أطعموا حبالاكم ذكر اللبان ، فإن يكن في بطنها غلام خرج ذكي القلب عالما شجاعا ، وإن تكن جارية حسن خلقها وخلقتها وعظمت عجيزتها وحظيت عند زوجها .

        Several of our fellows (reported) from Sahl b. Ziyad, from Muhammad b. Ali, from Muhammad b. Sinan, from al-Ridha [as]: "Feed your pregnant women gum, for if what she has in her womb a boy, he shall have a sound heart, a scholar, and a brave (man). And if what she has is a girl, she shall become well mannered, and her buttocks will be great, and will have a preference with her husband."
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Kandahary
          Shias think they are right just like how we think we are right.
          so what's stopping you from joining them, just because they say they are right doesn't make it so

          do you think its ok for them to attribute divinity to their imams

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          • #20
            Most important Shi'ite book available online: http://www.islamic-laws.com/pdf/Al-Kafi.pdf
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            • #21
              I have a question here, I don't have a problem with Sangar to post anything he wishes. But he is clearly mocking Shi'a people.

              What happened to his gang who were backing up their boy when he was getting a taste of his own medicine? This is exactly what I was trying to demonstrate that these people mock others by slandering them, yet when it is done to them they cry foul.

              I am glad that it did not take too long for what I was trying to accomplish to materialize.

              What is with this double standard?
              Last edited by MeemWawMeemNoon; 06-09-2010, 09:39 PM.
              Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

              [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

              [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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              • #22
                Second most important book of the shi'ites: http://www.zainab.org/commonpages/eb...ahj-blagha.pdf
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                • #23
                  Shi'ite tafsir of Qur'an: http://www.shiasource.com/al-mizan/
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by osho View Post
                    I always try not to indulge in such kind of sectarian discussions but cant control my nerves when some friends try to wipe out millions of shias from the map of the religion of Islam by showing few videos.

                    My main interest is to expose the extremists who are the real enemies of Muslims and Pashtuns.I am not a shia but yes I am against extremists and terrorists and shias at least are peaceful and not suicide bombers.

                    Just by showing few videos they declare the majority of the population of Iraq, Iran and a sizable population in all Muslim countries as mushriks and non Muslims.

                    [U] firstly i haven't declared any one a mshrik, don't attempt to put words in to my mouth. the people in these videos are misleading hundreds of people if not the entire population



                    This is the usual tactic of wahabis propagandists to spread hatered, violence and ill feelings in the name of religion. 1400 years of Islamic history could not make shias non Muslims and these friends by showing few videos make them infidels.

                    All these videos are individual speeches. Most of the expressions are metaphorical
                    whats so metaphorical about calling husain [ra] Allah, i fail to understand

                    or historic events which we dont have proofs to prove or otherwise. Some talk of miracles and some may be exaggerated but are emotional statements. I have listened to all and found nothing substantial where they say that they dont believe in Allah or the Prophet,
                    '' husain you are Allah'' nauzubillah, ''fatimmah you are a khaliq'' nauzubillah, they believe in Allah all right




                    the 2 fundamental pre requisites for being a Muslim.

                    again watch the videos

                    The problem of wahabis is that they take things literally and use religion as a propaganda for political gains as in this case the Arabs propaganda against shias.
                    regards

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                    • #25
                      Story of Sodomy written using Qur'anic verses

                      By Yousuf al-bahrani
                      [ الكشكول / ج 3 – ص 83 ] Al-Kashkool Vol.3 page 83




                      In literature about Abu Nuwas that while he was passing by the door of library he saw a beautiful boy so he said: “blessed be Allâh, the Best of creators.”
                      Surah 23:14

                      The boy said: “For the like of this let the workers work.”
                      Surah 37:61

                      Abu Nuwas said: “We wish to eat thereof, that we may satisfy our hearts and know that thou hast spoken truth to us, and that thereof we may be witnesses.”
                      Surah 5:113

                      The boy said: “You will not attain unto piety until you spend of that which you love.”
                      Surah 3:92

                      Abu Nuwas said: “So appoint a meeting between us and you, which neither we nor thou shall fail to keep, at a convenient place.”
                      Surah 20:58

                      The boy said: “Your appointed meeting is the day of the festival, and let the people assemble when the sun has risen (forenoon).”
                      Surah 20:59


                      So Abu Nuwas waited till Friday and when he came he saw the boy playing with children.

                      So Abu Nuwas said: “And who fulfill their covenant when they make it.”
                      Surah 2:177

                      So the boy walked along with Abu Nuwas into a hidden room.

                      Abu Nuwas felt ashamed to ask the boy to sleep.

                      Abu Nuwas said: “Those who remember Allâh (always, and in prayers) standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides.”
                      Surah 3:191

                      The boy said: “Embark therein, in the Name of Allâh will be its moving course and its resting anchorage.”
                      Surah 11:41

                      So Abu Nuwas mounted upon the kid and hurt him !!!!!!

                      So the boy said: “Verily! Kings, when they enter a town (country), they despoil it, and make the most honourable amongst its people low.”
                      Surah 27:34

                      And close to them there was an old man listening to the speech of the kid and Abu Nuwas and seeing what they were doing. So directing his speech to Abu Nuwas he said:

                      “Then eat thereof and feed therewith the poor unfortunate.”
                      Surah 22:28

                      The boy replied: “Allâh burdens not a person beyond his scope.”
                      Surah 2:286

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by GoPashtunGo
                        What is the main problem with Shia?
                        their worship of their 12 imams.
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                        • #27
                          Sangar have a break have a kit kat

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by AnGaaR View Post
                              Sangar have a break have a kit kat

                              LOL! Thanks. But its time for fajr here. I'm off to bed.

                              Enjoy reading.

                              Wasalaam
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                              • #30
                                I dont want to say shia's are kafir or anyone else.. its everyone's own belief

                                but whenever i come across these kinda discussions i only recite this surah





                                Thats all...

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