Split Topic: Apostasy and its Punishment

[ozymandias]

Actually, you were on the verge of leaving Islam, you were questioning Islam. Not me!


Nice try, Murtad Mullah Sangar.

Don't forget he thinks he is a prophet! Him and akbarkhan both seem to think that they, and only they, have the right to dictate what their Allah and Mohammah *really* meant -- and see no reason to back it up with evidence. They think their declaration is enough.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Don't forget he thinks he is a prophet! Him and akbarkhan both seem to think that they, and only they, have the right to dictate what their Allah and Mohammah *really* meant -- and see no reason to back it up with evidence. They think their declaration is enough.

They are hypocrites.

[Badlun]

Originally Posted by Sangar

To tell you something personal about myself. I wasn't really a Muslim 5 years ago. I was more of an agnostic before that.

After I accepted Islam for a while I was with all sorts of people. And I've wasted allot of time with Muslims who were ignorant of their religion. And they did not benefit me. It was only recently that I started to learn allot about Islam. This thanks to finding a community of knowledgeable people who are devout and practicing Muslims.


Lets see sangar original post again. He not only said that he was agnostic but also said that I was not really a Muslim......not only that I was not a Muslim but also that I was not REALLY a Muslim,,,,,with emphasis.....Then he says I ACCEPTED ISLAM AGAIN,,,,,,what doubt remains here that he is not an MURTID...

[Badlun]

All I did is point out that killing of apostates is and fornicators does exist in Shari'ah law and it has been applied for the past 1400 years.

For that I am labeled as someone who preaches terrorism.

This reveals more about you as a person and your motives than me. Since my posts on this forum are open for everyone to read them. They are not censored.

Sangar says that this sharia of killing apostates must be apllied , it does exist in sharia so why not now apply this as he said he was not really a Muslim and accepted Islam again......

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Nice osho!

It is amazing how these people fool innocent people.

Murtad Mullah Sangar, you have a lot of answers to give.

Why should you not be killed?

[MazloomyarMaseed]

These guys produced all kinds of views that one must kill the one who left Islam, In Sangars case, He should be thankful for the Western Society who saved him from the hands of the Twisted Lunatics who would have loved to hang him, not just this, the current location of where hes living, provided him with the peace and space to return back to Islam.

Kind Regards

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Imagine how many people would have come back to Islam if these munafiqeen did not killed them.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Everything is against you Murtad Mullah Sangar.

You truly are shameless. You are among us with a clear tattoo of murtad on your head, yet you have no shame whatsoever because you continue to preach that murtadeen should be killed.

[Muslimah]

^ Yes, but we are accepting to those who leave Islam, because we know when they get their head on straight, they come running back to the truth.

So, thank goodness we didn't kill you.

This just proves that ONLY ALLAH SWT knows what is in peoples hearts, and what WILL be in peoples hearts. Who are we to kill someone when even them and us don't know if they'd return to Islam and want to die as a Muslim?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

^ Yes, but we are accepting to those who leave Islam, because we know when they get their head on straight, they come running back to the truth.

So, thank goodness we didn't kill you.

This just proves that ONLY ALLAH SWT knows what is in peoples hearts, and what WILL be in peoples hearts. Who are we to kill someone when even them and us don't know if they'd return to Islam and want to die as a Muslim?

Quoted for truth!

[Muslimah]

What does the Quran say OVER and OVER and OVER?

Allah swt, All-Knowing, All-Forgiving, Most Merciful...

So, I take His word over everything else. Another reason to prove Allah swt wrote the Quran...and it is His word.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Forgetful kaka aren't you? Let's look at your very first blunder that brought out your exposition

Do you still believe loving your homeland is part of Imaan?

Do you still believe that Mullah nazeer will conquer Europe with Pakistani air support?

Tell us all, what have you done for Waziristan and its people?

[Khan]

Listen Murtad Mullah Sangar,

Very sad to read this. It's really embarrassing and sad to see a Muslim who claims to be a momen calls another Muslim brother a Murtad.

Have you not studied the Hadiths/Aayas regarding calling another Muslim a murtad or Kaafir?

To everyone;

If we dislike someone's point of view we don't have to be personal and call eachother names. I mean seriously calling eachother names isn't a Muslim's trait.

I dislike a brother's point of view on a particular topic and if I see him riding high on his ideology I would just part my way than throwing cheap shots and name-calling.

[*Mahzala*]

Note: I remind you, not as a moderator, but rather from the perspective of the basic relationship we share with others, the relationship of insaaniyat. Keep to it, and remember the right of others as Rasulullah SAW says every individual is entitled to many things which include the basic right of honour, freedom of expression or even defending themselves, and these are not limited to the individual, rather, as humans, we should respect that right of others and give it to them. There is much that needs to be changed in this thread, and I must admit, most of what is coming out was not what I expected from some members. The thread was split, and, over and over, more and more, I am noticing each post is more anger-filled than the previous. Names and accusations are not encouraged. Please refrain from it. Please consider this, for yourselves.

[Muslimah]

Allah swt loves those who are kind.
BE KIND!