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[badmash_khel]

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Kaish jee, many if not most greek philosophers believed in God. So its not right to say that philosophers inspire people to be atheists. There are other factors such as PERSONAL CHOICE.

[کیش]

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Kaish jee, many if not most greek philosophers believed in God. So its not right to say that philosophers inspire people to be atheists. There are other factors such as PERSONAL CHOICE.

I know, I said Greek philosopher wanna-be.

[کیش]

No one is emotional, unless you are. I'm not sure how you can 'revolt' against something you don't believe in. It's really sad that you are so ignorant and unwilling to discuss a viewpoint you don't agree with, and are so afraid of it that you would rather slander it and lie about it.

*shrug*

Lol what the hell are you talking about? Are you trying to make yourself feel better?

That "something you don't belief in" is as dumb as me saying Atheists are not real.

You don't belief in god? Then I highly doubt you have exprienced any calamity in this life. It's okay I'm sure when you die, you will see calamity.

Not believing in god and finding out god is real, is worser then Believing in god, and finding out god isn't real. Hypothetically speaking.


Atheists sounds like a bunch of cry babies. Blind deaf and dumb

[ozymandias]

Lol what the hell are you talking about? Are you trying to make yourself feel better?

That "something you don't belief in" is as dumb as me saying Atheists are not real.

I'm not sure I understand the comparison. In order to 'revolt against something' you need to believe it exists. It's not 'revolting' if you simply don't see evidence for faith.

As for not believing atheists exist -- that's exactly what you are doing. You are stating that you think they secretly believe in god, which would mean they were theists.

You don't belief in god? Then I highly doubt you have exprienced any calamity in this life. It's okay I'm sure when you die, you will see calamity.

Indeed, death is a calamity.

Not believing in god and finding out god is real, is worser then Believing in god, and finding out god isn't real. Hypothetically speaking.

Hypothetically speaking, that is not necessarily true. Not believing in a god, and finding out one exists could be better than believing in one, and finding out he exists, and is upset you rejected the gifts of logic and science they gave you.

Atheists sounds like a bunch of cry babies. Blind deaf and dumb

Interesting to note, that while I am being mature about this issue, you are the one name calling, stereotyping, and being a bigot.

[کیش]

Sorry is I offended you, but I could care less. You see no proof of god, then you must be Blind Deaf and Dumb. That's a serious thought just thrown everywhere. Yea death must be calamity, cause when you die you know what will happen. I'm sure you have at least read the bible.

you Atheists are very ungratefull people. Like how the children of Israel was with Moses.

May the god of Abraham lift the cancer from your heart.

[ozymandias]

Sorry is I offended you, but I could care less. You see no proof of god, then you must be Blind Deaf and Dumb.

Feel free to present the evidence. I have never seen any, and I have seen many wonderful things in my life.

That's a serious thought just thrown everywhere. Yea death must be calamity, cause when you die you know what will happen.

Indeed I do. Nothing. All that I experience comes to an end and my time of existing is over.

I'm sure you have at least read the bible.

Several times, in several translations.

you Atheists are very ungratefull people. Like how the children of Israel was with Moses.

Again, it's not that we are ungrateful, it's that there is no one to be gratefull to.

May the god of Abraham lift the cancer from your heart.

Cancer free, my whole life, thanks to science!

[کیش]

If you can't see the evidence of god just outside your window you are blind deaf and dumb. I'm not trying to offend you, but the evidence is everywhere.

Cancer-free, thanks to science? Science doesn't operate on its own that is pretty stupid to say that don't you think?

[ozymandias]

If you can't see the evidence of god just outside your window you are blind deaf and dumb.

I see trees, grass, a few buildings, and several people. Where is the evidence of a god? I see only things that science has no trouble explaining.

I'm not trying to offend you, but the evidence is everywhere.

Feel free to share some.

Cancer-free, thanks to science? Science doesn't operate on its own that is pretty stupid to say that don't you think?

Not at all. I see nothing supernatural about me not having cancer.

[کیش]

Evidence is those trees, people etc. . . Theirs nothing supernatural about it.

What you can't see those evidence? That's blind

You can't hear around you? That's deaf

Thinking god is supernatural? that's dumb


Show me evidence of evidence that their is no god.

[ozymandias]

Evidence is those trees, people etc. . . Theirs nothing supernatural about it.

So then why would you need a supernatural explanation? If it is not supernatural, no need for anything other than nature to explain it.

What you can't see those evidence? That's blind

You just stated yourself that there is nothing supernatural about what I saw.

You can't hear around you? That's deaf

I hear nothing supernatural, either. Everything I see and here is well explained by the laws of nature.

Thinking god is supernatural? that's dumb

Not at all. That's the definition of a god -- something beyond the scope of nature that created the universe.

Show me evidence of evidence that their is no god.

No. There is no such evidence, nor would there logically be any. You can't prove something outside the realm of science does nor does not exist -- you can only expand the realm of science to leave no room for a god.

[کیش]

You have different definition of supernatural

This debate is ineffective to have over the Internet. It would have been better to have this over coffee.

Until you prove in-person that science is greater then god (which is laughable), then this short conversation cannot continue.

[Afghanistan2010]

People are because of two reasons Atheists :

They want to be cool / and rebelious

They are too stupid and too busy with the life and drinking have no sense in their life.

[ozymandias]

You have different definition of supernatural

It's actually the dictionary definition.

This debate is ineffective to have over the Internet. It would have been better to have this over coffee.

Until you prove in-person that science is greater then god (which is laughable), then this short conversation cannot continue.

I'm not saying science is greater than your theoretical god, I am saying there is no need to resort to your theoretical god to explain what I see out the window.

[ozymandias]

People are because of two reasons Atheists :

They want to be cool / and rebelious

They are too stupid and too busy with the life and drinking have no sense in their life.

And there are two reasons people would believe that was true:
1) They are ignorant, and don't want to face reality.
2) They have never actually met an atheist.

Regardless, your explanation of why people are atheist is laughably false, and is not based in any sense upon reality. It's amusing that you claim that many of the smartest people on the planet are too stupid to be religious.

[Afghanistan2010]

And there are two reasons people would believe that was true:
1) They are ignorant, and don't want to face reality.
2) They have never actually met an atheist.

Regardless, your explanation of why people are atheist is laughably false, and is not based in any sense upon reality. It's amusing that you claim that many of the smartest people on the planet are too stupid to be religious.

I know let me count , up to 20 atheists and they had all this of opinion.
They don't wanted to face the reality that they have to die and they will be awaken and they had to meet their lord.