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  • Those who question the existance of God is haram and you will be rendered as a non-believer, non Muslim.

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    • the quran
      Last edited by Cookiemonster; 02-19-2014, 12:22 PM.

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      • Originally posted by Army of Pakistan View Post
        Those who question the existance of God is haram and you will be rendered as a non-believer, non Muslim.
        Then what are doing here in a haram thread. Go somewhere in halal thread. If you will read the book of Imam Ghazali Ahyaul Uloom, he also did this haram Job. But you will not read as per your belief. Many supernatural things can be proved and can be discarded.
        If you know a bit physics, centripetal and cetrfugal forces terminology is used, and no scientist of the world can say that he saw and touch these forces inmaterial,however are proven forces and in my opinion in Soorah Luqman, when Allah describes the Sky (I dont know where is the sky and what we see is the sky or not) is standing on the supports (satoons) which cannt be seen, the words are beghaire aamaden taraonaha, the invisible supports, and today we know at least know about these forces to be functional for all the stars and planets including our this earth, moon etc, and also artifcial planets, and all these are moving and suspended in the air due to these forces.
        God (for Muslims Allah) existence is supernatural but we can prove or discard it through arguments and knowledge.

        i will qoute again Ghani Khan baba

        Za yao tor da tyaray soray,
        Ta da zmakay aasman noor
        be kinar daryab da rang ta
        za yao tsaskay da suroor,
        ta jwandoon da kul jwandoo ye,
        za yao maat ao sooray jam,
        Sta pa raham der nazegam,
        zakka yam warta goyana,
        da ghulam gilla ham wawra,
        da spogmay ao storo khana,

        de shamkor na sta (God) da leedo tammaa
        de naskor na ta la de tlo tammaa
        Awal stargay sta da leedo kho ra,
        Bia kawa de mayanedo tammaa
        Last edited by Guest; 07-01-2010, 05:01 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Army of Pakistan View Post
          Those who question the existance of God is haram and you will be rendered as a non-believer, non Muslim.
          Please moderator take the notice of these fanatics posting ine ach post one fatwa of kufr.

          It is a well know qoute, that after death once masoor hallaj came in dream of Junaid Bughdadi the reknowned religos scholar of these days.
          Junaid Bughdadi asked mansoor Hallaj, ya you will have felt much pain, while people were stoning you, he replied, no, then Junaid Bughdadi said, then what gave you pain, he replied, when you thrw flower towards me, as I believed that other people were innocent and did not know, however you knew all, and put me to stoning.
          Moderator are requested to read it.

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          • Originally posted by Army of Pakistan View Post
            Those who question the existance of God is haram and you will be rendered as a non-believer, non Muslim.
            Such a question is "haraam" according to whom? Those who question it are rendered as non-Muslims or non-believers by whom? I don't care what people see believers and non-believers as; according to different Muslims, everyone else who doesn't think like them, even if Muslims, is a kaafir! We have examples of such ignorant folks lolling around here, even.

            But is there anything in the Quran that says that asking such a question is haraam?

            And, good God, why SHOULD it be haraam?

            C'mon, for God's sake, think, will you?

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            • Originally posted by erlangner View Post
              Please moderator take the notice of these fanatics posting ine ach post one fatwa of kufr.
              Don't worry. Their opinions don't change the reality or the facts. And they certainly won't silence any of those who question the existence of God, for, to silence a thinker, you must be a thinker yourself.

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              • Originally posted by pir_Rokhan View Post
                Dawkins's argument may be deviant to Islam but it does not mean it is invalid. If you think his argument is invalid , then you should give your arguments to prove it invalid.
                quran is the ultimate truth. And his arguments go against quran. therefore dawkins is full of nonsense. And anything he says is falsehood.

                And whoever believes in falsehood and rejects truth is kaafir. And will probably end up in hell.
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                • Originally posted by Qrratugai View Post
                  Such a question is "haraam" according to whom? Those who question it are rendered as non-Muslims or non-believers by whom? I don't care what people see believers and non-believers as; according to different Muslims, everyone else who doesn't think like them, even if Muslims, is a kaafir! We have examples of such ignorant folks lolling around here, even.

                  But is there anything in the Quran that says that asking such a question is haraam?

                  And, good God, why SHOULD it be haraam?

                  C'mon, for God's sake, think, will you?
                  Apparently you have never read the Qur'an. Your written off as non-believer.

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                  • Originally posted by Army of Pakistan View Post
                    Apparently you have never read the Qur'an. Your written off as non-believer.
                    If you will have read the Quran with its spirit then you will not have raised such questions?

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                    • To the theists....
                      How do the 330 million Hindu gods, the 12 official powerful Greek gods, the powerful monothiestic Gods of Islam,Judaism, Christianity,or Ahura Mazda, Buddha, or the Kamis of Shinto's, or the God of Candomble etc perform power-distribution in this world?
                      How do they distribute resources--natural, human, process resources?
                      Considering the development of the 'infidels' (in strict sense here, those who are non-muslims), why the Jewish and Christian Gods have been successful so far?
                      Last edited by PFgulalai; 07-04-2010, 08:09 PM.
                      "O Pakhtuns!, Your house has fallen into ruin, let us rebuild it".
                      "I want to see my people educated and enlightened. A people with a vision and a strong sense of justice, who can carve out a future for themselves in harmony with nature".

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