Those who question the existance of God is haram and you will be rendered as a non-believer, non Muslim.
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Then what are doing here in a haram thread. Go somewhere in halal thread. If you will read the book of Imam Ghazali Ahyaul Uloom, he also did this haram Job. But you will not read as per your belief. Many supernatural things can be proved and can be discarded.Originally posted by Army of Pakistan View PostThose who question the existance of God is haram and you will be rendered as a non-believer, non Muslim.
If you know a bit physics, centripetal and cetrfugal forces terminology is used, and no scientist of the world can say that he saw and touch these forces inmaterial,however are proven forces and in my opinion in Soorah Luqman, when Allah describes the Sky (I dont know where is the sky and what we see is the sky or not) is standing on the supports (satoons) which cannt be seen, the words are beghaire aamaden taraonaha, the invisible supports, and today we know at least know about these forces to be functional for all the stars and planets including our this earth, moon etc, and also artifcial planets, and all these are moving and suspended in the air due to these forces.
God (for Muslims Allah) existence is supernatural but we can prove or discard it through arguments and knowledge.
i will qoute again Ghani Khan baba
Za yao tor da tyaray soray,
Ta da zmakay aasman noor
be kinar daryab da rang ta
za yao tsaskay da suroor,
ta jwandoon da kul jwandoo ye,
za yao maat ao sooray jam,
Sta pa raham der nazegam,
zakka yam warta goyana,
da ghulam gilla ham wawra,
da spogmay ao storo khana,
de shamkor na sta (God) da leedo tammaa
de naskor na ta la de tlo tammaa
Awal stargay sta da leedo kho ra,
Bia kawa de mayanedo tammaaLast edited by Guest; 07-01-2010, 05:01 PM.
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Please moderator take the notice of these fanatics posting ine ach post one fatwa of kufr.Originally posted by Army of Pakistan View PostThose who question the existance of God is haram and you will be rendered as a non-believer, non Muslim.
It is a well know qoute, that after death once masoor hallaj came in dream of Junaid Bughdadi the reknowned religos scholar of these days.
Junaid Bughdadi asked mansoor Hallaj, ya you will have felt much pain, while people were stoning you, he replied, no, then Junaid Bughdadi said, then what gave you pain, he replied, when you thrw flower towards me, as I believed that other people were innocent and did not know, however you knew all, and put me to stoning.
Moderator are requested to read it.
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Such a question is "haraam" according to whom? Those who question it are rendered as non-Muslims or non-believers by whom? I don't care what people see believers and non-believers as; according to different Muslims, everyone else who doesn't think like them, even if Muslims, is a kaafir! We have examples of such ignorant folks lolling around here, even.Originally posted by Army of Pakistan View PostThose who question the existance of God is haram and you will be rendered as a non-believer, non Muslim.
But is there anything in the Quran that says that asking such a question is haraam?
And, good God, why SHOULD it be haraam?
C'mon, for God's sake, think, will you?
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Don't worry. Their opinions don't change the reality or the facts. And they certainly won't silence any of those who question the existence of God, for, to silence a thinker, you must be a thinker yourself.Originally posted by erlangner View PostPlease moderator take the notice of these fanatics posting ine ach post one fatwa of kufr.
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quran is the ultimate truth. And his arguments go against quran. therefore dawkins is full of nonsense. And anything he says is falsehood.Originally posted by pir_Rokhan View PostDawkins's argument may be deviant to Islam but it does not mean it is invalid. If you think his argument is invalid , then you should give your arguments to prove it invalid.
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Apparently you have never read the Qur'an. Your written off as non-believer.Originally posted by Qrratugai View PostSuch a question is "haraam" according to whom? Those who question it are rendered as non-Muslims or non-believers by whom? I don't care what people see believers and non-believers as; according to different Muslims, everyone else who doesn't think like them, even if Muslims, is a kaafir! We have examples of such ignorant folks lolling around here, even.
But is there anything in the Quran that says that asking such a question is haraam?
And, good God, why SHOULD it be haraam?
C'mon, for God's sake, think, will you?
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To the theists....
How do the 330 million Hindu gods, the 12 official powerful Greek gods, the powerful monothiestic Gods of Islam,Judaism, Christianity,or Ahura Mazda, Buddha, or the Kamis of Shinto's, or the God of Candomble etc perform power-distribution in this world?
How do they distribute resources--natural, human, process resources?
Considering the development of the 'infidels' (in strict sense here, those who are non-muslims), why the Jewish and Christian Gods have been successful so far?Last edited by PFgulalai; 07-04-2010, 08:09 PM."O Pakhtuns!, Your house has fallen into ruin, let us rebuild it".
"I want to see my people educated and enlightened. A people with a vision and a strong sense of justice, who can carve out a future for themselves in harmony with nature".
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