Beware of Ahmadiya

[shisha]

all im saying is that by killing innocent people just becuase thier beliefs are different doesnt make you a better more mighteir muslim, it only upsets god.

[emkhan]

I know my dear brother, but betraying god makes god more upset. and following the law is more and more important.
every action has got a reaction.
for wrong action wrong reaction and for good action good reaction

[Fahd]

Did you know that hadith to which you are referring to, the last sermon given by the Holy prophet (pbuh) at Arafat, in its original format mentions two things that he is leaving behind 1) Quran 2) Itrati. It was later during the Abbasid's time that the hadith was changed to say Quran and "sunnah"...the word sunnah was not used until 200 years after the holy Prophet (peace be upon him) passed away.
3trati, the word meant by it was family, his linage...the children of the Holy Prophet peace be upon, whom the shia hold dearly to. I bet you don't even know what happened to the family of the prophet ...and how they were massacred by mawiyah and those who had sworn vengence against the Prophet's family.
If you actually go into the details and study the history...you won't be so sure of your self Fahd. Bottom line being...that what you call "sunnah" is not a concept posed by the prophet (pbuh) but later on.

Even the debate about the creation of the Quran is a lot more complex than you think.
Just think for a second...if no muslim were alive to recite the Quran, would the quran exist?

:-0
what do u belive in ?? r u shia or motazila or what ?

[Roshina]

Did you know that hadith to which you are referring to, the last sermon given by the Holy prophet (pbuh) at Arafat, in its original format mentions two things that he is leaving behind 1) Quran 2) Itrati. It was later during the Abbasid's time that the hadith was changed to say Quran and "sunnah"...the word sunnah was not used until 200 years after the holy Prophet (peace be upon him) passed away.
3trati, the word meant by it was family, his linage...the children of the Holy Prophet peace be upon, whom the shia hold dearly to. I bet you don't even know what happened to the family of the prophet ...and how they were massacred by mawiyah and those who had sworn vengence against the Prophet's family.
If you actually go into the details and study the history...you won't be so sure of your self Fahd. Bottom line being...that what you call "sunnah" is not a concept posed by the prophet (pbuh) but later on.

Oh thank God you pointed that out! Bless your mind! Most "Sunnis" don't know that. They also don't know that Shiites follow the "sunnah" as much as Sunnis claim to follow it. O the strangeness that shakes this world...!

[salahuddin]

Sunni,Shia,Wahabi,Ahmedis,Sufis are all sects of Islam. This is evidence that Islam is not a United religion and not all its followers follow the same path as it claims.

If Islam was a one path to truth then why are its followers following different paths?

Truth is Truth, Truth is fact, you cant go different paths to follow fact, Fact is Fact. sadly in this case, a new cult has been made, and they interpretate Islam by claiming there is another prophet who turns out to be a Confused desi.

[salahuddin]

Leave them to beleive what they want, if they constantly harass you to follow their way being Ahmedi way, then tell them, how can a Prophet of god die on a toilet?

[stars]

Sunni,Shia,Wahabi,Ahmedis,Sufis are all sects of Islam. This is evidence that Islam is not a United religion and not all its followers follow the same path as it claims.

If Islam was a one path to truth then why are its followers following different paths?

Truth is Truth, Truth is fact, you cant go different paths to follow fact, Fact is Fact. sadly in this case, a new cult has been made, and they interpretate Islam by claiming there is another prophet who turns out to be a Confused desi.

you want to prove your wrong ideas as right but you will never be able to succeed in your satanic ideas and mission.

[Azad Khel]

Qadyanis:


This is the subject of my interest, specially, of yester years when I was a student and there were several qadyanis in the same institute.
Some of us here are of the opinion that qadyani is a sect like other sects this is totally wrong concept.

I am against the sects in Islam. Islam is Qur’an and Ahadits (sunnah). Personal teachings, like and dislike is not religion.
Now come to the original topic of Qadyanis, they are dangerious in the sense that there is invisible difference between a Muslim and Qadyani. They follow the religion Isalm just like us. Even they pray like a sunni muslim.

They call Mohammad (pbuh) the prophet even greater than theirs’ prophet Ghulam Ahmed. They say Qur’an is the last message of Allah to human beings. They also say that Mr. Ghulam Ahmad was made a prophet for preaching/tableghi purpose only. When once I asked a qadyani about their religious book he replied Quran.

They are of the opinion that Mohammad(pbuh) was born in Makka the first time and then in Qadyan the second time as there was a need to change some laws specially to abandon jihad bissaif/jihad with sword or qital. But Mr. Ghulam Ahmad failed to change the Quran specially those verses which tell the muslim to fight with sword/gun etc against the non believers.

Mr. Ghulam Ahmad says “I am the Maryam/Marry, I am the Christ (pbuh), I am the Mohammad (pbuh) and I am the Ahmad. How illogical he is in his claims.

Amongst his (Ghulam Ahmad’s) distortion of the ayahs of the noble Quran is the second and third ayah of Surah Juma.

هُوَ الَّذِى بَعَثَ فِى الأُمِّيِّينَ رَسُولاً مِّنْهُمْ يَتْلُو عَلَيْهِمْ ءَايَـتِهِ وَيُزَكِّيهِمْ وَيُعَلِّمُهُمُ الْكِتَـبَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَإِن كَانُواْ مِن قَبْلُ لَفِى ضَلَلٍ مُّبِينٍ

He (Allah) is who has sent a messenger among the illiterate, who recites on them His (Allah’s) ayahs and purifies them and teaches them the book (Quran) and hikmat (ahadit) and they were before in manifest error.

وَءَاخَرِينَ مِنْهُمْ لَمَّا يَلْحَقُواْ بِهِمْ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الْحَكِيمُ

And others among them who have not yet joined them. And He is the Almighty, the All-Wise.

The Qadyani tranlate this ayah as “and He (Allah) will raise him among others of them who have not yet joined them.”

Those who have a little understanding of Arabic language will easily understand that how Ghulam Ahmad has distorted the Holy Qur’an.

[Fahd]

Fahd bro, I am not a sis I am a bro
secondly, just keep gaining knowledge and researching. Read about different sects and why they believe what they believe. Things are not always black and white. To other sects maybe sunnis might be in error though still muslim and don't read about other sects from sunni perspective. Ask about their beliefs first hand and directly, take what they say to be the their true belief. We don't know what is in people's hearts so don't accuse them of "taqqiya" this and that. Read their famous books and listen to their famous scholars. Don't listen to what others say about them. People have agendas and they put their own spin on things for their own intrest and almost everyone is biased.

I am not sure because I don't decide who is going to heaven or hell, I am not sure about myself, let alone a whole group of people

lol sorry bro hehe :p


hmm can u tell me whats ur belive's ? i mean u r shia ,sunna ...etc ?

[Dreamer]

lol sorry bro hehe :p


hmm can u tell me whats ur belive's ? i mean u r shia ,sunna ...etc ?

dude do you even know anything about taqiya?

[gadoonwal]

Qadyaanis are funded by the westreners.There are some active members of Qadyaani religion here posting anti-muslim stuff.I do not want name them here but they are active on pashtuns forums.
Some ,,,Atheists,,are also in action here but they could be ,,qadyaanis,,who knows.
Not easy to convert pashtuns.LET them waste their time.

[emkhan]

lies have got no feet

[Fahd]

dude do you even know anything about taqiya?

lol yh its just when u need to do it like if some kafir would kill u if they knew u r muslim u can hide ur islam from them but in ur heart u r muslim
, enough ?!! so hmm if u dont mind me asking u too , what u belive in ? hmm u said u r not shia !! so ?

[salahuddin]

you want to prove your wrong ideas as right but you will never be able to succeed in your satanic ideas and mission.

What I said was the Truth so stop moaning and crying like a baby.

Islam is broken into Sects, if you cant see this, then you are the one with the wrong ideas. Plus what I say is not a Idea, its a FACT, if what I said was not a FACT, then how come there is no such thing as a One following of Muslims, how come there is a different mosque for every school of thought.

What Satanic Mission am I on? its not me calling for Shias or Sunnis to be killed, its your own Muslims doing that, not me!

[salahuddin]

lol yh its just when u need to do it like if some kafir would kill u if they knew u r muslim u can hide ur islam from them but in ur heart u r muslim
, enough ?!! so hmm if u dont mind me asking u too , what u belive in ? hmm u said u r not shia !! so ?

What if a Salafi Kills you? how can a Sufi hide his Ideology?

Fahd you are flawed! everything you say contradicts your real nature.

How can a Kafir kill you because your Muslim, Kaffirs are building your Mosques and towers in Saudi Arabia, they are also feeding Poor Muslims throughout North Africa through Aid and Plus the Kaffir is also giving you rights to practice your faith while on the other hand a coptic christian in eypet cant even get his church repaired withotu an approval of a Mullah.

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