Beware of Ahmadiya

[KingKhan]

these the follower of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed, are straight stupid. This man believed he was Jesus, and a bunch of other things. I give him props for actually believing in it, but their was no truth to it.

Ahmed died cause of diarrhea, lol?

[ScimitarXEdge]

They are no innocents, actually they are doing all this deliberately because they are well paid for this job. and you know who created them and who pays them.
So they are always on a mission when they ever talk to you.
you are their prey when they talk to you.
thats why i call them clever devils.
so, NO concession for the traitor only exiled or beheaded
This is a universal law and all the countries are using the same law even the secular countries...

if you believe that, then you're more scared of them and have allowed them to already triumph by your fear.

See the difference, they are scared of me? But they feel power over you?

[emkhan]

i am not scared of those paid stupids. i just want to say that they are on a mission everytime and when someone is on a mission then you cant make him understand about the truth.
again, they are doing it deliberately so i prefer there should be no argument with them. the only option i have for them is either get them exiled or beheaded.
and thats their destiney.

[ScimitarXEdge]

I rather just get them publicly caught with their pants down by throwing logic into the mix; they begin to panic. It's hillarious to see a Qadiyani panic.

Threatening beheadings just because they preach is just childish; there are people who are much worthy of such penalties; who claim to be your standard mainstream Muslim, but constantly act and do things against the betterment and welfare of the people.

[Fahd]

the Hadith of our beloved Prophet, from Sunan Abu Dawood Hadith No. 4579. In this Hadith the Prophet (pbuh) is reported to have said, “My community will split up into seventy-three sects."
This hadith reports that the prophet predicted the emergence of seventy-three sects. He did not say that Muslims should be active in dividing themselves into sects. The Glorious Qur’an commands us not to create sects. Those who follow the teachings of the Qur’an and Sahih Hadith, and do not create sects are the people who are on the true path.
According to Tirmidhi Hadith No. 171, the prophet (pbuh) is reported to have said, “My Ummah will be fragmented into seventy three sects, and all of them will be in Hell fire except one sect." The companions asked Allah’s messenger which group that would be. Where upon he replied, “It is the one to which I and my companions belong”.

sunni ppl

[emkhan]

the Hadith of our beloved Prophet, from Sunan Abu Dawood Hadith No. 4579. In this Hadith the Prophet (pbuh) is reported to have said, “My community will split up into seventy-three sects."
This hadith reports that the prophet predicted the emergence of seventy-three sects. He did not say that Muslims should be active in dividing themselves into sects. The Glorious Qur’an commands us not to create sects. Those who follow the teachings of the Qur’an and Sahih Hadith, and do not create sects are the people who are on the true path.
According to Tirmidhi Hadith No. 171, the prophet (pbuh) is reported to have said, “My Ummah will be fragmented into seventy three sects, and all of them will be in Hell fire except one sect." The companions asked Allah’s messenger which group that would be. Where upon he replied, “It is the one to which I and my companions belong”.

sunni ppl

for your knowledge, Qadyani is not a sect but it is a group of traitors or murtads.

[Fahd]

^lol i just want to post that cuz let them know which one group will be in jennat and others in hell !!
i know qadyani arent muslims they are out of islam !! also motazila!!
i cant belive there are stupid ppl in this world would belive such things like that !! sorry mewmmnewnewm and sxcm but u two should change what u belived !!

[KingKhan]

^lol i just want to post that cuz let them know which one group will be in jennat and others in hell !!
i know qadyani arent muslims they are out of islam !! also motazila!!
i cant belive there are stupid ppl in this world would belive such things like that !! sorry mewmmnewnewm and sxcm but u two should change what u belived !!

You do know theirs sects within the sunni sect?

[Alchemist]

There are 7-10 verses in the Holy Quran that Qadiyanis distort the meaning of.

One of their claims is that Isa ibn Maryam (pbuh) was not raised to Heaven and will not return in the End Days to fight the dajjal. They say Jesus (pbuh) escaped from Israel and lived the rest of his remaining life in Kashmir. Reason being, that the founder of the sect, mirza ghulam, claimed that he was the Messiah, and he was the khalifa. Right now if you ask a qadiani, he will tell you that the Khilafa has returned. But here is where their confusion begins..if you ask them is the khalifa a prophet? They can't give you a straight answer...because their "khalifa" has made claims of having "waiy" ..."revelation" from Allah but we know that prophethood was sealed with Mohammad, peace be upon him. Therefore, they will make bogus spiritual nonsense theories...of how the spirit of prophethood has been passed to this khalifa.


Mirza Ghulam founded his sect under the British raj and to gain their full support he told his followers that Jihad was no longer wajib. This is why Ahmadies believe they are better than the rest of the Muslim Community...because they are "non violent" and that they are mostly involved in the business of Dawah. They are very cultish in this respect because the way they organize themselves is somewhat similar to the Ismailies. Financially they are set ..and in western countries Qadiyanies have special relations with the governments just because they are always the first to put the blame on "mainstream" muslims for all acts of terrorism ...just to prove them self more "peaceful"/muslim than the rest of us.


Emkhan says that they should be beheaded and exiled. Obviously he has adopted the Pakistani governments stance towards qadianies. In Pakistan these people are persecuted and bashed on by all sorts of laws. For one, a Qadiani must always identify himself as qadiani and they have to wear something that shows that (I believe). Their masjids are not allowed to broadcast the azan...and other useless laws that discriminate against them. However, these laws actually give Qadianis a sense of superiority. When you are argue with one of them, they will draw parallels between their own struggles and the struggles of our Nabi, Mohammed, peace be upon him, in mecca against the kuffar. They will interpret their own persecution as a sign of them being on the right track. Obviously the Prophet peace be upon him, if he were here today with us, would never accept such preposterous laws of Pakistan that are put in the name of Islam. Nor would he, pbuh, call for their beheading...but ofcourse, if he were here, they wouldn't make such nonsense claims. One of the reasons this sect has flourished in the subcontinent is also because the majority of these people do not understand Arabic. And most of the debates of the qadiani who make dawa give a false and murky interpretation of the verses... that would fail against an arab. This has been a constant criticism against qadianis and now they have amplified their efforts in the arab world. They now have an arabic satellite channel ...and I have watched it some times and seen arabs call in and give in their opinions about the sect. Most arab muslims recognize the false claims they make but they can also tell that these qadianies really believe in the Oneness of Allah and the Message of Muhammed, pbuh. Qadianies still pray the five time prayer just like we do and they fast in ramadan and they give charity. However, I do believe they are banned from making hajj from pakistan...which I think is stupid. Beheading them and killing them is also nonsense. This sect only exists because there isn't a khilafa system so these people are pretending that they are divinely guided to a new khilafa system that is harmonious (subordinated) with the realities of a western and christian dominated world.

Also fahd, there were mutazilies from even amongst the Salaf ul Salah and even the Ashab, companions of the Prophet peace be upon him. You can't do takfir against something you don't understand.


Personally I don't see Qadianies as a threat. Even if someone chooses to follow this false dajjal, they can't do harm to the Islamic ummah since their stance in politics is for the most part neutral. They have made a community for themselves so as to escape the realities of all the rest of the muslims who are oppressed by tyrannies dictators...but when the greater islamic community revives the qadinies will weaken. They will never spread in the Arab world...that much is clear and for sure...despite all their efforts. Right now they have a large headquarters in Israel where they are trying to recruit Arabs ...but I know they are failing.

[ScimitarXEdge]

I wonder why people have never asked why people who Speak and Understand the Language of the Qur'an thoroughly have never subscribed to Qadiyanism.

[Fahd]

Yes, I agree Ahmadiya or Qadiyanis should be least of our worries. Their whole argument as you said is based on misinterpretation of a few verses and a total disregard for hadiths and early islamic history.

@Fahd

you don't know who is going to heaven or hell, just because you label yourself as sunni or real muslim doesn't make you one. Labels mean nothing, and I don't think you undrestand the meaning of that hadith. It talks about people who are closest to the prophet (saw) and his companions in belief and actions, there might be some shias or other sects who are closer to him than some sunni who is just sunni by name and follow none of the prophet's (saw) teachings. I wouldn't be so sure of myself if I were you.

lol sis i understand the hadith : p
and i didnt say i know who are going to heaven or hell
i agree about some are sunnai by names or any thin lik that !!
lol @ closer !! its about follow he's sunna not be close to him by hurting ur self because what happend to ali !! and not be close by crying at propht Grave and pray to his Grave !!
and like u said qadyani is out of islam and thats clear !!
about motazila the Scholars are Divided some say they are kafir and some say no they are not or , who said they are kafir because of the wrong things they Extract by wrong understand !! by saying quran is Creature and dont belive of some of allah Attributes . also about other things . and who said no they they said because of the hadith i did said about 73sects and they are not in kafir because propht said they are my My community and thats why they said they are not kafir they are just (i dont know what the hell is the word in english :@ ) lol
but i will go with the first one becaus if they dont belive of some Attributes then they dont belive of thise Provisions of the attributes and thats kufr !!

lol u said somethin wrong about : ''I wouldn't be so sure of myself if I were you'' why ?

[shisha]

i have many ahmdy freinds and they dont look like the type to be converting me let alone anyone else ino, but hey who knows

[emkhan]

what is an ahmadiya?

They don't consider our dear prophet Muhammad peace be upon him as the last and final prophet sent by Allah. According to their belief ghulam mirza qadiani (a paid person by the british govt) is the last and final messenger... taubah,,,, astaghfirullah

[shisha]

^everyone has thier own beliefs that doesnt mean thier not muslim

[graveyardofempires]

what is an ahmadiya?

a "religion" created by a punjabi in British raj(india/pakistan).
the guy called mirza ghulam ahmed qadiani(i know its a long name) claimed to be a prophet,claimed to be jesus,claimed to be Mehdi,claimed to be Mariam.
so in a sense he claimed he gave birth to himself.
btw they say they are real muslims and others are not