Has anyone read the Quran?

[graveyardofempires]

I invite you to read the rest of the Quran graveyardofempires.

Inshallah i,ll read the whole of Quran
and your point is?

[کیش]

Hey randolph isn't that idiot, I am!!!

Yes I have read and finished the Quran in English and Arabic several times.

[Manzareh]

"Impossible is just a big a word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it."

Notice the letter in bold. were talking about God here.

[Admin Khan]

I mean from cover to cover in a language you understand as you would any other book?

Would you like to discuss it?

Yes.

Sure.

[khushal]

Hey randolph isn't that idiot, I am!!!
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I have to say that made me laugh^

Mr. Pi here has the wrong idea about what the Quaran is. The Quaran is the word of God, it is not like any other book so you can not compare it in the same way. The reason it is important to read it in the Arabic language is because as linguists would tell you that Arabic is the most logical language. So in order to understand the Quaran, you must have a comprehensive understanding of the Arabic language. To discuss it here in a comprehensive manner would require for us to have an understnading of the arabic language. To read it in english or pashto and discuss it, we will just be speculating as laymen. If you want to have a serious discussion about the Quaran, then you must talk to a scholar.

[unknownprince]

I have read the Quran from cover to cover. This took a year with a teacher. After reading parts, the teacher would explain the meaning. I unfortunately have not memorized the Quran, only the shorter surahs.

In any case, 3.14, you are mistaken. The Quran is not just a book. The Quran was revealed to our Prophet(pbuh) who was illiterate at the time. That's one of the first miracles about the Quran.

Even today, Islamic scholars continue to be amazed at the verses.

This Quran has empowered people with a sense of justice, and no one can destroy that power.

[*Mahzala*]

Mahzala, thank you for the honesty. I invite you to read the rest.

Dreamer I agree! I think the Torah and Neviim should be mandatory reading along with the Quran, and of course also historical context.

I was surprised by the repetitious style, moreso by a verse acknowleding its repetitious style. Fractal!

I was quick to respond to your initial post, however, it seems I had misunderstood. A book whose revelation was a prolonged one over twenty three years cannot simply be understood in a few sittings of reading, where our concentration, let alone desire to ponder and learn, is miles from what we recite. With regards to reading the Quran, cover to cover, and understanding it, in a crude language in which it loses much of its syntax does not suffice, nor give us any authority to draw conclusions on matters within it. In order to understand and appreciate how each verse speaks volumes, one must have a deep understanding in its contextual references and not take verses out of context, single them out and interpret them to suit a preconceived notion. In order to understand the Quran, one needs not turn to the previous revealed scriptures. The sources of these references lie in the Quran itself, in the stories, with an authentic chain of narration, transmitted by the righteous predecessors and in the Arabic language, which undoubtedly, is a complex area of study. In fact, in the Quran itself, we have been told to disregard the previous scriptures with the revelation of the Quran. We are in no position to devise new concepts which contradict the authentic commands of this religion. Furthermore, I would appreciate if you shared the verse you are referring to.

[3.14159265...]

I have no desire for mental gymnastics. I have no intention of arguing whether or not my way reading the Quran is better than the way you suggest.

If something is written on paper using language with reasonable length, I call it a book. I read things that are written. I then think about and discuss things which I read.

I read the Quran, I thought about it, now I want to discuss it. If you are one of those who prefers the Quran on a pedestal not to be touched by common men without layers of "education", then go ahead and discuss other writings written about the Quran, and do it in another thread.

Here I want to discuss the Quran. If you find that blasphemous then I don't care. I hope those of you who are in violent opposition of discussion of the Quran will find your way out of this thread so that those of us who want to discuss it may.

If you would like, of course you should stay and contribute but I am hoping I don't have to write all this again.

Idiot I apologize for the misnomer :P, and I invite you to read the whole of the Quran.

Manzareh I pointed out a direct hypocrisy in your pattern of though and you rationalized it. Until you can overcome that I can not discuss with you.

[کیش]

I have read the "whole of Quran"

Off topic
How many numbers of Pi, do you have memorized, no cheating!
3.145926535897932384

Thats as far as I can go so far!

[khushal]

I have read the "whole of Quran"

Off topic
How many numbers of Pi, do you have memorized, no cheating!
3.145926535897932384

Thats as far as I can go so far!

Ive had only memorized to 3.141592, you forgot the 1 after the 4 on yours,

But I have memorized more of e though
2.718281828459045 its easier

[unknownprince]

Wrong for a millionth time 3.14. Contrary to what you want others to believe, your not smart at all. In your does God exist thread, I broke your argument to one question which you repeatedly failed to answer.

You do care very much what others say, that's why you keep bringing this topic up.

The Quran is not a simple, and it has not been changed by man like the Bible and Torah.

The fact is is that you have not read it from cover to cover. You really have picked a few verses, and you want to talk about.


Let me tell everyone what he will do. He will say he read it, but then he will only talk about a few verses, and go on and on about that.

He will repeat himself like a broken radio.

[Catya Sher]

I just saw the thread, and raising my eyebrows at
the supercilious - SOUNDING way [perhaps not intended ]
in which Mr Pie
"INVITES" -??
Those who have not completely read the Holy Quran to
read the rest.

This sounds like the way a teacher or expert on holy scriptures
would speak to less informed lowlier individuals.

Could we have an explanation of THIS before going into
intricacies?

For, it hardly sounds like the congenial discussion he is making it sound.

[Catya Sher]

PS - Randolph is NOT at all stupid.
He's quite ' with it ' behind his casual manner, as far as I have detected.

[Alchemist]

I just saw the thread, and raising my eyebrows at
the supercilious - SOUNDING way [perhaps not intended ]
in which Mr Pie
"INVITES" -??
Those who have not completely read the Holy Quran to
read the rest.

This sounds like the way a teacher or expert on holy scriptures
would speak to less informed lowlier individuals.

Could we have an explanation of THIS before going into
intricacies?

For, it hardly sounds like the congenial discussion he is making it sound.

Mr. Pie is window shopping. He goes through religions like I go through tv shows.
Today it's Qur'an, yesterday he was encouraging everyone to read the Bhaghavat Gita. Don't mind him ...

[Catya Sher]

Oh I see, Alchemist.

I haven't been able to read more than one of his threads.
Pointless disputation, with someone who gets more adulation
here than perhaps he so far has merited...

If he's asking sincerely to get members' opinions, great.
But it didn't ring true at all the way he was talking down
to everybody.

Inviting devout people like Mahzala to read the rest ? !!
Too too much...