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  • Originally posted by pakhtoongal View Post
    hmmmmmmm..this is a bit off topic..but is it segregated...??
    semi segregated ... boys and girls sit separately, but in the same room and there is no curtain or anything between them
    Last edited by Guest; 04-23-2010, 07:34 PM.

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    • ^There is no curtain between them, you mean.

      Osho, you speak without experience. But the doors to AlMaghrib are open if you want to experience it and see for yourself
      I desire that which is Just - House of Dukemina.

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      • ^ yes thank you, I fixed it now

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        • Al-maghrib masha allah is fantastic, i've been given audio cds on these lectures and they are great, they help one so much on their way of living. I advise you guys to go for its beneficial=D
          Last edited by Pakhtunzai; 04-24-2010, 02:40 PM.

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          • al-Maghrib is a capitalistic institute under the Islamic name. There is nothing special about them, most of these types of institutes are the same.

            Al-Maghrib teachers are major hypocrites when it comes to defending Islam from the kuffar. They promote this super washed liberal FBI-version and even tell others to betray Muslims and spy on them and hand them over to the kuffar. This was said by their "sheik" Yasir Qadi.

            Walid Basyouni slandered and insulted the Mujahideen that fought against the Communists. May Allah [swt] humiliate this enemy of Islam, even the Soviets respected the Mujahideen.

            I have met and spoke with them personally about these issues. I have recorded their cursed tongues shamelessly promoting these things. And this is just the scratch on the surface.

            And stuff that they teach, which is suppose to be free in the first place, can be learned by reading a book at home.

            They will even try to sue you for copyright issues that prevent Islamic knowledge from other people who cannot afford their class, cds and books.

            So please people, don't waste your time and money on them, you can put it to better use.

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            • Originally posted by osho View Post
              Al Maghrib seems to be another attempt to arabise the innocent Muslims and may be many of Pashtuns by their so called seminars and events. I dont think there will be many arab muslims participating in all these activities,,,,,,majority will be of non Arabs,,,,,please correct me as I dont have any first hand experience of these events.
              What does "arabize" mean?

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              • Originally posted by Kandahary
                ^wow.

                Proof?
                Yes, I have to upload the Waleed Basyouni speech since it was taken down from youtube because it was too long.

                Yasir Qadhis said it in reply to the British "Dispatches" show, where he publicly released a a video and in the last 2 to 3 minutes says about handing Muslims over to the Police.

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                • Originally posted by Mutakhasis View Post
                  Walid Basyouni slandered and insulted the Mujahideen that fought against the Communists. May Allah [swt] humiliate this enemy of Islam, even the Soviets respected the Mujahideen.
                  The lecture is called "Violence in the Name of God" (which is allowed in Islam), he gave this lecture several times, but the one where he espouses his hidden hatred towards the Mujahideen was live in PeaceTV. Here is just snippets of what he said:

                  35 min: “So many people who went there (The Jihad in Afghanistan) what truly driven them. That they couldn’t accomplish any success in their house. They couldn’t give dawah to their parents, they couldn’t change the situation they were living in at home. They couldn’t establish any kind of activity or dawah in their community and society. They are so frustrated They think that their loser so they go to these groups. “

                  56 min: When you read the verses of Jihad, about establishing Jihad and fighting. None of the companions ever understood ever. Or the tabain or the early muslim jurists, or the 4 imams and their followers that this is something you can do on your own. That you can just carry weapons and collect group of people and declare Jihad. It is by the consensus of the muslim scholars as Ibn Qudama rahimullah said it can only be done by the muslim leader, by the elected leader in the muslim community. It’s a political decision, its declaring war and the only has the right to do that is the leader of this country. Because the results of this action it can be very serious results it effects everyone in the society. (another clear lie, there is no consensus, rather it is the opposite, a Muslim can fight alone without being part of a group)

                  Also, they have no understanding of the great rules in islam which is that this shariah came to bring prosperity and benefit to humanity, and to protect them from what can harm them. That’s why even if there rule in shariah even if theres something you’ve been asked to do in the Shariah (jihad) but doing it in this time or in this particluar or in this particular place will cause more harm your not allowed to do it.

                  103 min They always view that the natural relationship between muslim and non muslim it is war. That we the muslims have to always be in a status of war, and fight with the non muslim. And that’s not true. Because muslims can sign a treaty with non muslims that there is no war between them at all and that treaty has no limit, it doesn’t have an expiration date. As Ibn Al Qayyim rahimullah said and this is agreed upon by the muslim scholars. And we all know today the whole entire world have signed an international treaty that no country shall attack another country, so that’s a treaty of peace between all the countries today who join the United Nations. (this is a clear lie, the hanbalis and shafee’s limit peace agreements to 10 years when muslims are weak and 4 months when they are strong)

                  116 min I believe we are suffering today the unwise decisions which is taken in the past by pushing the youth to go to lands where there’s conflict or war going on as it happen in Afghanistan in the 80s and now those people came back with very different ideologies. Because the way they lived their life, they way they lived these years made they very zealous as people who cannot live anymore in a civil society. So, so many of those people cause so many damage and harm to their country when they came back.
                  Last edited by Guest; 04-26-2010, 10:28 PM.

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                  • I went to one of almaghribs things. Ilmfest they had last year, one of the topics walid basyuni did was called "Reclaiming Islam from the Jihadists" it started at 3:00 pm.

                    So he has a problem with "jihadists" - people who do jihad and not terrorism since he would have said terrorists.

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                    • ^You went to the event last year?! So did I :D


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                      (And I will just ignore what has been slandered upon my beloved Sheikhs. Even then, regardless of all that, take from them their good and leave the bad, kana? )

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                      • Slander (buhtaan) is telling lies about another Muslim, all the money you wasted into this institute, at least know the meaning of the word you use. And nothing what I have said is a lie, whoever knows these so called "sheikhs" will know their two-faces.

                        This was all on television and can be found on youtube, and there is nothing hidden about Yasir Qadhis pop-tart approach of Islam. Just look at their disgusting secularized blog muslimmatters where they were praising the unjust arrests of some brothers in USA.

                        With misguided leaders like these, American Muslims are finished, there is no hope left for them.

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                        • No one should spend a dime attending their classes, if you want to learn about Islam or any form of Islamic history, READ! READ! READ!

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                          • You slander them, for you are wrong. I do know these Sheikhs personally and so does my family. Your information is from youtube and other sources and anyone can cut out a statement or misuse it for their own propaganda. Yet, regardless, you take from them their good, and trust me they have alot to offer, and leave the bad, kana? :D

                            Mutakhasis, yow kar waka, post your links elsewhere because the topic of this thread is AlMaghrib. Manana.

                            Nazia, khorey, if it was free every Tom, ****, and Harry would be at the class and the serious students would not be able to study to their potential. As I mentioned before, there are means in which serious students who can not afford the class are able to attend the class.

                            Viva la AlMaghrib!
                            I desire that which is Just - House of Dukemina.

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                            • Originally posted by Dukemina View Post
                              You slander them, for you are wrong. I do know these Sheikhs personally and so does my family. Your information is from youtube and other sources and anyone can cut out a statement or misuse it for their own propaganda. Yet, regardless, you take from them their good, and trust me they have alot to offer, and leave the bad, kana? :D
                              Again, learn what slander means, and if I'm wrong, all you have to do is prove it to me. I gave the names of the lectures and even transcribed some of Basyounis nifaq.

                              The problem does not lay in you thinking I'm wrong, but it's more of you deliberately blinding yourself from the truth due to you seeing them as rock stars and some type of righteous people, even though they are quite the opposite.

                              Mutakhasis, yow kar waka, post your links elsewhere because the topic of this thread is AlMaghrib. Manana.
                              When you spread evil, it's a Muslims duty to counter that evil with good, so I will not

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                              • Hahahaha, Mutakhasis, I was being nice when I asked you to remove the links.

                                Khair, I don't want to argue with you because you haven't said anything I haven't heard before, lol. You think I'm new to this?

                                People will always find fault with good people, we know that these sheikhs are not perfect and neither do we expect anyone to be. What we take from them is their good and leave what is questionable or bad. Is that not the noble thing to do? We can even benefit form their mistakes, can we not? I am not going to argue with you and say that they are angels, because I know as well as you do that they are only human.

                                Alhamdullilah, soon finishing my second year of being a student with them, I myself have benefitted alot from Sheikh Yasir Qadhi's classes like the fiqh of food and clothing, sciences of the Quran (and also, Sheikh Waleed Basyouni's classes) and especially Sheikh YQ's talk on "Kitaab ut Tawheed" and these are only a few things that I am mentioning. You can not just go around discouraging Muslims from gaining ilm. Why, you can even use the help of non-muslims when it comes to educating ourselves, so why are you spreading hate when it comes to Muslims? Certainly, this is something "ajeeb".

                                Aseer, I hope you can make it, Inshallah.
                                I desire that which is Just - House of Dukemina.

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