Tajik Views of the Durrand Line

[BehavedMaseed]

I am was absolutely Ashtonished at the remarks Tajiks and co from Afghanistan say about Pashtuns. You can read their comments on the following link:-

http://tajikam.com/forums/index.php?...ashtuns-issue/

[Michin Khel]

I am in real shock...in pakistan there is image that tajiks and other hate pashtuns and creates trouble for them in afghanistan...my this stance was always rejected in pashtun forums as ISI propaganda.
I have been an old member of largest pakistani forum, the punjabis thinks pashtuns as islam-loving, conservative, simple-minded ,strict on women and patriotic pakistanis...they are ignorant about pashtuns in many aspects and laughs at pathan jokes but i have never seen them using such poisonous langauge against pashtuns as are these tajiks using.. Pashtun-haters are also among pakistanis but the level of hate that tajiks have for pashtuns is much more advanced and poisonous.

[BehavedMaseed]

I am in real shock...in pakistan there is image that tajiks and other hate pashtuns and creates trouble for them in afghanistan...my this stance was always rejected in pashtun forums as ISI propaganda.
I have been an old member of largest pakistani forum, the punjabis thinks pashtuns as islam-loving, conservative, simple-minded ,strict on women and patriotic pakistanis...they are ignorant about pashtuns in many aspects and laughs at pathan jokes but i have never seen them using such poisonous langauge against pashtuns as are these tajiks using.. Pashtun-haters are also among pakistanis but the level of hate that tajiks have for pashtuns is much more advanced and poisonous.

Did you read all the comments they say about us. They call us this and that, and people want us to join with these savages?

[Michin Khel]

Did you read all the comments they say about us. They call us this and that, and people want us to join with these savages?

Despite of all these facts, many pashtun member of this forum from afghanistan loves tajiks as their own. Which make me come to conclusion that they are persianized pashtuns and their families have married with tajiks forexample zahed here is tajik and he is cousin of shayesta khor. Similarly many of members here have admitted that they have tajik relatives and many of these members speak dari in their homes despite of knowing pashtun. We all know very well that persianised pashtuns are against unity of pashtuns due to their tajikised nature.

[ayub]

why are you guys shocked I knew this ages ago. Have you ever been on other forums like Afghan.forums..even these people who claim to be Pakhtuns call us dal khors or punjabis..so this expected from a Tajik/farsiwan forum.

[BehavedMaseed]

The ignorance level of this thread is so high... I cant even comment. Maseed you are more illoterate than I thought. You are judging an ethnic group based on a DEAD website?!?!??!

I am a tough Tajik critic but this is nonsense. Maseed your agenda is clear you work against our unity. You are poison to Pashtun unity.

What above comment is a prime example of what luffy is trying to say.

You cant get Unity of Pashtuns if your going to consider Tajiks and others as one of us.

You suffer from the usual views of your fellow Afghans who one side speak of Unity of Pashtuns but the other side ignoring Tajiks and others who will oppose our unity.

What agenda, My agenda is the unity of all Pashtuns, Not your obcession with Kandahar being this and that. You are stuck in the past, your heroism is so 1600's. We are in 21st century, Your Afghans sold us out to the British India and left us to the mercy of the British Army.

We dont want to choose nationalities or this Loy Afghanistan fantasy. We want to choose being Pashtuns and solely Pashtuns and not double standards.

Read the comments of the Tajiks, Do you want me to show you more frm youtube and other forums about wht they think of Pashtuns.

Kind Regards

[Shayesta]

^ Go ahead, also make sure you find us such people in real life.

in pakistan there is image that tajiks and other hate pashtuns and creates trouble for them in afghanistan...

In Afghanistan people got this image Pukhtoons are being targeted in every corner of Pakistan. Is it true?

they are ignorant about pashtuns in many aspects and laughs at pathan jokes but i have never seen them using such poisonous langauge against pashtuns as are these tajiks using..

What reason do they, Punjabis, have to use such language against you? Just like how Pukhtoons supported Taliban by invading the North, did Pukhtoons in Pakistan do the same regarding Punjab?

Pashtun-haters are also among pakistanis but the level of hate that tajiks have for pashtuns is much more advanced and poisonous.

Just wait one more decade and see how respectful Pakistan is gonna stay towards you. At least I can say in Afghanistan ethnic issue is starting to calm down while in Pakistan it just took birth.

Did you read all the comments they say about us. They call us this and that, and people want us to join with these savages?

If you had your mind set on a bit more peaceful threads as well, then Nick (a member) had already clarified that that forum is formed by a Tajikistani and is kept active mostly by Tajikistanis, some of them from Afghan Tajiks who are also active in youtube. Tell me, how many members on those forum are active insulting Pukhtoons and how many in this forum are active insulting non-Pukhtoon Afghans? If their entire race was racist then that forum would have been much fuller than this forum, no?

Despite of all these facts, many pashtun member of this forum from afghanistan loves tajiks as their own. Which make me come to conclusion that they are persianized pashtuns and their families have married with tajiks

Another fact which didn't get through your head; Most of us have met Tajiks in real life and know how human they are. They are just few online who keep insulting while majority has learned to move on and get over the past. But of course, why would you care about 'positive' facts?

for example zahed here is tajik and he is cousin of shayesta khor.

It's Ramzan, don't break your fast for such a petty lie.

we all know very well that persianised pashtuns are against unity of pashtuns due to their tajikised nature.

No, we 'Persianized Pukhtoons' are against terrorism and insurgency in our country which your country has been supporting all those decades. Obviously we gonna choose human beings over fake-sympathizers.

[BehavedMaseed]

LOL, that website is dead and that shows how popular pan tajikism and hate for pashtuns is when they don't even have 1 regular member. lol

There are racist and fascist in every ethnicity, i know pashtuns who don't consider hazaras humans and support their mass killing.

I am from north Afghanistan surrounded by uzbeks and Tajiks, Maseed and Luffy, why don't you ask me rather than believing in propaganda used by others to create hate and division between different ethnicities of Afghanistan.

Maseed constantly says random bullcrap from RAWA website and a few other reports which are long out dated. He supports a country only for pashtuns and to make his idea more justified he mentions these things so his case for a seperate pakhtunkhwa becomes stronger. He has made up his mind so looking for truth and being objective is not on the agenda I think.

I suggest to Maseed and Luffy to travel to Afghanistan to get first hand experience of these so called enemies of pashtuns.

I suggest you to come to Lahore,Islamabad and Karachi and see how Pashtuns are very successful and nearly every field and compare it with those in Afghanistan. Enough said.

Whenever there is a cause for a Pashtun Identity, You and Pakistani patrotics work to prevent it or use some nasty reasons to stop it.

I know many people from Afghanistan and they tell me the exact same thing as luffy, nokia afridi and dawazai.

I dare you to send a Jirga to Panshir Valley asking them to learn Pushto and prove yourself as the real leaders of Afghanistan then maybe I will take your Afghanistan seriously.

Kind Regards

[Shayesta]

^ I also suggest you to visit Mazar, Herat, Kunduz, Takhar and Southern provinces to see who the wealthiest people are. Enough said as well. Let us have the same situation as Pakistan as well and then see how further Pukhtoons progress. And those many Afghans you know who share your idea, ask at least one of them to join this forum. Shouldn't be too hard, init? And about Panjsher valley, that valley still gets Pukhto language as one of it's subjects and Panjsheris are over and done with fueling their hatred towards Pukhtoons. No wonder why Panjsheris supported Kochis over Hazaras in their clashes in Maidan Wardak.

[Feroza_Banu]

^thank you!

[BehavedMaseed]

I dont think Iranians have access to youtube? I thought the Mullahs banned it? Anyway those guys are tajiks Even when my cousin worked in Birmingham in a factory he use to be sworn at and pushed around by a group of Afghans and a Tajik because he was from Pakhtunkhwa and now hes happy in Islamabad without being told hes a outsider. Iam just being honest.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Yajikam is a Fascist Tajik Nationalist website which is owned and run by people who support Latif Pedram and Ahmed Shah Massoud.

They are primarily children of Parchami or Setami communists who live in Germany, Holland, UK, Canada & USA.

Some of them use to hang around Afghanforums and Afghansite forum.

They were active on many forums and paltalk. But since the creation of Tajikam, all of them have gathered there to insult Pashtuns.

[BehavedMaseed]

how can i be sure they are afghan when they hide behind a screen?

just because someone speaks farsi and say they are this and that doesn't mean its the reality.

once again idiots exist on all sides and its better not to waste your time on them.

Oh come on! You are telling me there is no hostilities between Tajiks and Pashtuns in Afghanistan? its not something new

[Azmal]

I suggest you to come to Lahore,Islamabad and Karachi and see how Pashtuns are very successful and nearly every field and compare it with those in Afghanistan. Enough said.

Whenever there is a cause for a Pashtun Identity, You and Pakistani patrotics work to prevent it or use some nasty reasons to stop it.

Whats pashton identity? Try Afghan.

I know many people from Afghanistan and they tell me the exact same thing as luffy, nokia afridi and dawazai

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yea like those tea buggers that say we are not raciest we have so many black friends. Buddy you, taliban are as much representative of pashtons nation as these dead tajik forum are that of Tajik people.

I dare you to send a Jirga to Panshir Valley asking them to learn Pushto and prove yourself as the real leaders of Afghanistan then maybe I will take your Afghanistan seriously.

Kind Regards

LOL...actually based on education ministery...the Punjshir kids and that of all afghanistan are already learning pashto as subject from 5th to 12th grade...but seriously. Why should they learn pashto? what good it will do them?
Now..it doesn’t matter what you think about holy Afghanistan...the fact is you have the crisis of identity...not us...we are already Afghan=Pashton..but you are Pakistani=Indian Muslim.

[ijaz yousafzai]

You should get out of your hybernation and admit the ground realities. It is like, a mouse happened to confront a cat, closing his eyes to the imminent danger to be eaten up by the cat. Pashtuns have adversaries in Pakistan(Mohajir- Punjabi confederacy) and in Afghanistan ( the Parsiban confederacy).It is immaterial who speak and write a decent Pashto. The Tajik Akhun Darveza Baba excelled in Pashto oratory and writing skills, but he served the Moghal's interests against Pir Rokhan. He can not be taken a sincere Pashtun, for granted. Similarly your beloved Non Pashtuns, will not hesitate to stab you in the back, when they grasp an oppertunity, like they had in the Northern areas in the garb of bloody Northern Alliance.