Trumps wise insight on Afghanistan

[Firdousi]

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I hear you use twitter and perhaps also facebook. Why did you deactivate your twitter? Wasting time? You also are typing away on some smart phone or laptop right now either using Windows or Microsft. All the aforementioned is innovation brought to you by some "stupid American." Who really are stupid? The people of the world wasting their precious time on it or the people who made it?


Actually, the "rural idiots" are not barking against wars. Only Trump and his policy advocates like Stephen Miller, Steve Bannon, and Sen. Rand Paul are.

As I said, that is only Trump.



The "rural morons" are just average Americans trying to pay their bills. Throwing terms around doesn't prove a thing. Explain to me how the "rural morons" created a system which sees American tax payer money being blown overseas or how they agreed to a globalism which sees China making American products like the iphone, and GM making some of their cars in Mexico. Thats the work of the elite establishment not some "rural morons."

Scroll down to your own posts where you go on a rant about Trump disrespecting US allies and making US weaker. If nobody cares, then why are you talking?



Im happy that Mattis, a known MIC neocon warhawk resigned after Trump's withdrawal decisions. It shows how serious the decisions are that a pro-War defense secretary had to quit lol.

How come you Pakis are so nosy? "Why did you deactivate Twitter?" lmao what do you care, loser? Its none of your business. I swear you people are so weak, insecure and embarrassing. How come you suddenly ignored your claim about "everybody being allowed to travel anywhere"? Once I debunked your pathetic claim, you just decided to ignore it. Typical deceitful Pakistani. This proves that its pointless to engage in a rational debate with you. You are just not smart and honest enough.

I can see crystal clear your stupid points. If at this point the best you can do is asking me why I am using American technology, you better do us a favor and kill yourself.

[khushal]

Unstable people make poor decisions, say stupid stuff, disrespect their own allies, say a in the morning and z before going to sleep.. it has little or nothing to do with starting or ending wars.

Read my comment once again: I did not say Trump started the decline. I said that people like Trump are the logical side effect of the American decline which clearly started under Bush and Obama. Trump will put the last nail in the coffin.

One of the greatest privileges Americans have is that you can deny your own privileges. Very few people, except for Europeans perhaps, can afford this. Globalization has benefitted not just the elites but the average American. Thanks to the global system, Americans can travel to every corner of the world, you get cheap products and natural resources that allow you shallow and artificial way of life to continue, the pump of money into the American economy is constant, the way an American is treated abroad is way better than other nationalities, small American entrepreneurs can send their products to any country without almost tariffs and restrictions.. and so on.

Americans can afford denying all these and many other privileges because they live in an ignorant bubble. But once that bubble is gone, they will realize that their life quality will further decline without the empire. Because no matter what your current state is it can get even worse. This is just another privilege: that you feel oppressed and victimized without realizing that it can get even worse. After all, Americans are not supposed to suffer, right? More privilege for you.

Americans standard of living is pretty similar(maybe a little bit better) to other industrial countries. Most Americans don't really travel outside the country, most don't want to get passports because their own country is vast and has a lot to offer. When the British Empire fell, its citizens still enjoyed a higher standard of living than most of the world.
The American Empire only benefits elites, not the average American citizen. In reality the future American citizens are paying for the luxury of those elites because most of this foolish spending is borrowed money that the future generations have to pay back.

[Insight]

How come you Pakis are so nosy? "Why did you deactivate Twitter?" lmao what do you care, loser? Its none of your business. I swear you people are so weak, insecure and embarrassing. How come you suddenly ignored your claim about "everybody being allowed to travel anywhere"?

Iranian wannabe Tajik nationalist,

Paki this and Paki that, blah blah blah farting from your mouth means you can't address my points

Most of your points are bogus including the one about Americans traveling everywhere in the world. Canadians. French, Swedes, Germans, British, and anyone with a Western passport can travel around the world. Satisfied? Your point is garbage and didn't even deserve to be addressed.

Once I debunked your pathetic claim, you just decided to ignore it. Typical deceitful Pakistani. This proves that its pointless to engage in a rational debate with you. You are just not smart and honest enough.

I can see crystal clear your stupid points. If at this point the best you can do is asking me why I am using American technology, you better do us a favor and kill yourself

You are an intellectual fraud whose perspectives all revolve around your support fot the US war in Afghanistan and the puppet Kabul regime you call a government. You pretend to state facts, but no one is stupid here man.

You try to pass your opinion off as fact and maybe a few susceptible fools fall for it. In reality you are doing what has been done here before- trying to push a narrative that suits your own stated biases.

Take your ridiculous claim that Americans are stupid----> You use American technology to type your nonsense. You use American medications when you suffer from headaches (all that shhhhit in your head), you probably wear American clothes, probably walk in American shoes too. And yes your twitter addiction is relevant because that is American too.

Microsoft and Apple operating systems are American too. Remember that as you type your stupid response to me.

"Americans are stupid" lol

[Firdousi]

Americans standard of living is pretty similar(maybe a little bit better) to other industrial countries. Most Americans don't really travel outside the country, most don't want to get passports because their own country is vast and has a lot to offer. When the British Empire fell, its citizens still enjoyed a higher standard of living than most of the world.
The American Empire only benefits elites, not the average American citizen. In reality the future American citizens are paying for the luxury of those elites because most of this foolish spending is borrowed money that the future generations have to pay back.

lmao dude what the hell are you saying? When the Pax Britannica ended in 1914, it led to WWI and a period of high social and political instability with up to 90 million human beings dead thousands of them Brits. The only reason UK remained "wealthy" its because it got lucky: Brits side won the war. Otherwise they would have end up as f*cked up as any other country after the collapse of the empire: humiliated and poor. Just look what happened to most of eastern europe after URSS collapsed. After the Ottoman collapse, most of its former territories still to this day suffer because of it. The end of the Safavid empire led to Qajar and the dismemberment of Iran Zameen into many independent political entities that still to this day hate Iran with a passion.

You are very naive, Khushal, if you believe that by giving up on an empire nothing will happen. There is an entire global system built by the USA and that country is just the core of it. Everything revolves around your country. Just in case you did not figure it out you lack of a proper organic culture. The only thing that makes the USA exceptional its your international political and economic institutions. If you remove that, the only thing left is pop culture, gay parades, feminism, junk food, overweighted rednecks, black racist gangsters and guns.

[Firdousi]

Iranian wannabe Tajik nationalist,

Paki this and Paki that, blah blah blah farting from your mouth means you can't address my points

Most of your points are bogus including the one about Americans traveling everywhere in the world. Canadians. French, Swedes, Germans, British, and anyone with a Western passport can travel around the world. Satisfied? Your point is garbage and didn't even deserve to be addressed.



You are an intellectual fraud whose perspectives all revolve around your support fot the US war in Afghanistan and the puppet Kabul regime you call a government. You pretend to state facts, but no one is stupid here man.

You try to pass your opinion off as fact and maybe a few susceptible fools fall for it. In reality you are doing what has been done here before- trying to push a narrative that suits your own stated biases.

Take your ridiculous claim that Americans are stupid----> You use American technology to type your nonsense. You use American medications when you suffer from headaches (all that shhhhit in your head), you probably wear American clothes, probably walk in American shoes too. And yes your twitter addiction is relevant because that is American too.

Microsoft and Apple operating systems are American too. Remember that as you type your stupid response to me.

"Americans are stupid" lol

Pajeet, I just wonder how much you spend thinking about the average Malaysian, Mexican or Thai citizen? Or all you care about is the average American? No crocodile tears for non White people? Typical Uncle Tom Paki lmao

[randolph85]

Those are different people. You can't blame Merkel for what Hitler did.

This is not 1930s vs 2010s

This is 2000s and 2010s vs still 2010s with many if not most of the same lawmakers still in office and of the same party.

[randolph85]

His policies are control spending

It’s controlled overspending on non existent threats. Not to mentioned the deficit that his tax cuts for the rich contributes to. 2 years ago the Republicans used to have a hard on for reducing the deficit by cutting services. Now they want to cut services while increasing the deficit lol

For example scraping the Russian-US nuke missile range deal. Now Russia ramps up production and the US must now follow suit and ramp up spending. Now the world is at even greater risk because of these Kuffar *******s.

[randolph85]

Instead, this warhawk neocon quit in anger lol

That’s exactly what he did however you seem to think that the Bush era neocons and the Trump alt right are different. What is different is that the neoconservatives are long term calculating while the Trumpers act on emotion and have no strategy. When I say “Trumpers” I mean people who support Trumps rash decisions and have no say in the matter because they are as caught off guard as everyone else when this guy says something.

But rest assured, Pompeo was in Egypt yesterday saying American AirPower would still strike any target it deemed a threat in the Middle East. Who needs boots on the ground when you have f-35,22, bombers. Or play things like in Afghanistan “mother of all bombs” where our soil is used as an experiment.

[Insight]

That’s exactly what he did however you seem to think that the Bush era neocons and the Trump alt right are different. What is different is that the neoconservatives are long term calculating while the Trumpers act on emotion and have no strategy. When I say “Trumpers” I mean people who support Trumps rash decisions and have no say in the matter because they are as caught off guard as everyone else when this guy says something.

But rest assured, Pompeo was in Egypt yesterday saying American AirPower would still strike any target it deemed a threat in the Middle East. Who needs boots on the ground when you have f-35,22, bombers. Or play things like in Afghanistan “mother of all bombs” where our soil is used as an experiment.

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I agree that the Neocons (democrat/republican) will try to undermine him and reverse his decisions in any way they can. In fact, impeachment due to Republican buy in could be possible if Trump continues on his non-intervention path. At the same time, I do think Trump has a lot of leverage. It will not be easy for the neocons to stop him

Trump's Syria decision holds.

[Insight]

Pajeet, I just wonder how much you spend thinking about the average Malaysian, Mexican or Thai citizen? Or all you care about is the average American? No crocodile tears for non White people? Typical Uncle Tom Paki lmao

It seems you are unable to adress your stupid claim that "Americans are stupid." So what do you do? You make yet another stupid claim.

Second stupid claim by Persian wannabe Tajik.nationalist

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"Or all you care about is the average American? No crocodile tears for non White people?"


According to this fool, his use of the term "American" with BS claims means white! I never said "average" American. Im only addressing your BS claim " Americans are stupid." Now you give another BS claim.

Im as American as the white Americans your women service in those Kabul brothels. Uncle Tom who? The context of the term "Uncle Tom" would apply to someone like you who supports the white/European-American presence in Afghanistan.

[khushal]

It’s controlled overspending on non existent threats. Not to mentioned the deficit that his tax cuts for the rich contributes to. 2 years ago the Republicans used to have a hard on for reducing the deficit by cutting services. Now they want to cut services while increasing the deficit lol

For example scraping the Russian-US nuke missile range deal. Now Russia ramps up production and the US must now follow suit and ramp up spending. Now the world is at even greater risk because of these Kuffar *******s.

That's true. Its just that he cant tackle the MIC and the social service industry at the same time. When he says the rest of NATO member, Japan, South Korea, The Saudis etc has to pay up for protection, he is trying to appease the MIC and get the money from other sources rather than the US treasury.
When he was making peace with North Korea, The MIC made their attacks in the media on him because that would hurt their wallets.

Making more useless nuke missiles just hurts their own citizens and country because they are just going deeper into debt.

[khushal]

This is not 1930s vs 2010s

This is 2000s and 2010s vs still 2010s with many if not most of the same lawmakers still in office and of the same party.

Still you cant blame person A for what person B did besides most of those lawmakers hate Trump and they are from his party.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

The reason Trump doesn't "Warhawk" is because he has his friend Putin, who he has been in collusion doing all the warhawking and our brothers and sisters in Syria are paying the ultimate price for that

The only reason Trump apologists are giving Trump a reach around is because Trump is for the time being, acting lenient on the Talibs. I'm not trying to claim that Trump is the repository for all that is wrong in the world, but I have no illusions that he is in fact a cretin. I also think Trump knows about Mahdi

And Taliban Leadership rejoice of Trump is evidence that they will not be with Imam Mahdi. Mahdi will reject all oppressors.

[khushal]

Ofcourse he is a cretin(he is a billionaire, no one has said he was a saint) but he at least is fighting for his own people.
He is not lenient on the Talibs(his own base would be in favor of nuking the whole ME), all the lawmakers realize the whole endeavor in Afghanistan is useless but he is the only one that is not afraid to say it. Its like the whole Vietnam war, Everyone knew it was a lost cause but Nixon was the only one that had the courage to actually declare it a lost cause.

Trump is not religious, he is a business man and he sees everything as a business. He sees money(investment) going in to Afghanistan but sees no return(profit). You have to be insane to keep throwing money at something that has no return.

Talibans rejoice of Trump means they recognize his courage to sit with them that maybe peace will come. Obama didn't have the courage and instead his cowardice kept using taxpayer money to keep the useless war going continuing the process of killing his own soldiers which he is sworn to protect and killing Afghan civilians. He made a deal with the MIC that for every dollar that goes to Health/Social Service industry, a dollar would also go to the MIC. That's what the whole Obama care is all about creating an opium epidemic and making billionaires of the Purdue family who is now going global in the in selling their opium products.
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