Mullah Baradar Freed In Pakistan

[Azmal]

But why create a gov that is in conflict with paki. Why not create a paki friendly gov who wont harbor revivalist movements because that would solve the problem of Paki not harboring the Taliban or any insurgent movement that would threaten Kabul. Not only will it solve that problem, but paki would open up the border to trade which Karzai and Ghani has been wanting since the beginning. Paki is just reacting to Kabul's unfriendly stance and the unfriendly stance is designed by its creator and funder. All you have to do is watch Afghan media, i ts all about Pakistan and any Afghan with very little education knows that the destruction of Afghanistan stems from this unfriendly stance towards Pakistan ie pashtunistan policy that even Daud at the end realized was destructive and wanted to end it and was ready to sign trade agreements with Pakistan and Saudi which made the Soviets react by killing him. This all fits in with the theory of realism in international relations where cooperation between neighbors is agaisnt the interests of hegemonic powers ie US now and USSR back then.


Pakistan and Afghanistan were cooperating for the first time under the Taliban who also threatened central Asian dictators. Central Asian dictators would have fallen way before the Saudis or any Arab dictator. If you read what was happening in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan at the time, they were on the brink. Uzbekistan killed thousands of protesters because the dictator felt so threatened while Tajikistan's capital was on the brink of collapse. When Dostom broke Taliban lines in 2001, many of his fighters were from Uzbekistan's army.

https://ssi.armywarcollege.edu/pubs/...ring/blank.pdf

Listen to this child of Ali Ponja. Typical daal Stink hot airs...portraying his pokristsb policy as defensive—due pashtunistan. These ******* pathans are more royal to king then king themselves. Seriously this nephew of Asad Durrani has no feeling for Afghan state that was established by blood of his forefather. I call him child of Ali Ponja for a reason.

On contrary, Pakistan Afghan policy has always been offssive. First Pakistan is successor of British Raj for not only Afghanistan but Pashtuns is FATA and PATA. Second as Khushal’s papa Ali Ponja has explicitly state in his speech to PATA/FATA elder Pakistan continues the forward policy of British Raj against Pashtuns and Afghanistan. Third, the reason for the extremist enterprise in Pakistan owes itself to the fact that in the absence of any national coherence, political Islam has been the ONLY means at the government's disposal for keeping their synthetic nation glued together. Hence the underlying reason for Pakistan's support of extremist movements in Afghanistan and region...nothing to do with religion or any pretence to moral virtue. It is s matter of life and death for these people, let us not forget Jennah’s Pakistan has already collapsed in 71.


Below is list history of Pakistan ’s security institutions.

ISI:
ISI was the brainchild of Australian-born British Army officer, Major General R. Cawthome, then Deputy Chief of Staff in the Pakistan Army.

Pakistan Militray:
Remnant of British India army, made up of Indian-Muslims whom have faithfully served British for 200 years... Including but not limited against Iraq , Afghanistan , World War 1 and 2.

Army:
First two Chief of Army Staff of the Pakistan Army where General Sir Frank Messervy (August 15, 1947 - February 10, 1948) General Sir Douglas David Gracey ( February 11, 1948 - January 16, 1951 .


Pakistan air force.
Air force Chiefs
Air Vice Marshal Allan Perry-Keane (August 15, 1947 - February 17, 1949)
Air Vice Marshal R.L.R. Atcherley (February 18, 1949 - May 6, 1951)
Air Vice Marshal L.W. Cannon (May 7, 1951 - June 19, 1955)
Air Vice Marshal A.W.B. McDonald (June 20, 1955 - July 22, 1957)

Naval Chiefs
Vice Admiral J.W. Jefford CB CBE (August 14, 1947 - January 31, 1953)

[Akbar]

I am pretty sure the NDS is not handling those Daesh who attack Shias and government targets. Not everything is as it seems in Afghanistan but not every conspiracy theory is true either.

Plus, anyone will say what they want a captor to hear under interrogation/torture.

Well
The offical talibnn representative just made the claim in his news conference and gave his arguments.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Let's call a spade a spade ....DAESH in Afghanistan are Just EX Taliban members that wanted to be more "hardcore" than the Taliban or felt the Taliban "softened" up too much over the years. That said we can pretty much include DAESH and Taliban into the same pool. Their inter-squabbles is more a reflection of how egotistic they are and willing to come to blows over trivial differences rather than being qualitatively different.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

i am pretty sure the nds is not handling those daesh who attack shias and government targets. not everything is as it seems in afghanistan but not every conspiracy theory is true either.

plus, anyone will say what they want a captor to hear under interrogation/torture.

this!!!

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

But why create a gov that is in conflict with paki. Why not create a paki friendly gov who wont harbor revivalist movements because that would solve the problem of Paki not harboring the Taliban or any insurgent movement that would threaten Kabul. ]

Imperialism 101, pulling each puppet's strings keeps the audience confused.

[khushal]

Imperialism 101, pulling each puppet's strings keeps the audience confused.

It is the puppets(Azmel like people) job to confuse the audience because as long as the audience is confused, Azmel makes money in exchange for selling his peoples rights. The Imperialists job is to implement policy to save people like Azmel from being overthrown by his people. If he ever is overthrown, then the Imperialist either leaves it alone and have its own people create some form of security or implement policy to ensure insecurity and chaos teaching the audience a lesson that the puppet is better than the alternative.

[khushal]

Listen to this child of Ali Ponja. Typical daal Stink hot airs...portraying his pokristsb policy as defensive—due pashtunistan. These ******* pathans are more royal to king then king themselves. Seriously this nephew of Asad Durrani has no feeling for Afghan state that was established by blood of his forefather. I call him child of Ali Ponja for a reason.

On contrary, Pakistan Afghan policy has always been offssive. First Pakistan is successor of British Raj for not only Afghanistan but Pashtuns is FATA and PATA. Second as Khushal’s papa Ali Ponja has explicitly state in his speech to PATA/FATA elder Pakistan continues the forward policy of British Raj against Pashtuns and Afghanistan. Third, the reason for the extremist enterprise in Pakistan owes itself to the fact that in the absence of any national coherence, political Islam has been the ONLY means at the government's disposal for keeping their synthetic nation glued together. Hence the underlying reason for Pakistan's support of extremist movements in Afghanistan and region...nothing to do with religion or any pretence to moral virtue. It is s matter of life and death for these people, let us not forget Jennah’s Pakistan has already collapsed in 71.


Below is list history of Pakistan ’s security institutions.

ISI:
ISI was the brainchild of Australian-born British Army officer, Major General R. Cawthome, then Deputy Chief of Staff in the Pakistan Army.

Pakistan Militray:
Remnant of British India army, made up of Indian-Muslims whom have faithfully served British for 200 years... Including but not limited against Iraq , Afghanistan , World War 1 and 2.

Army:
First two Chief of Army Staff of the Pakistan Army where General Sir Frank Messervy (August 15, 1947 - February 10, 1948) General Sir Douglas David Gracey ( February 11, 1948 - January 16, 1951 .


Pakistan air force.
Air force Chiefs
Air Vice Marshal Allan Perry-Keane (August 15, 1947 - February 17, 1949)
Air Vice Marshal R.L.R. Atcherley (February 18, 1949 - May 6, 1951)
Air Vice Marshal L.W. Cannon (May 7, 1951 - June 19, 1955)
Air Vice Marshal A.W.B. McDonald (June 20, 1955 - July 22, 1957)

Naval Chiefs
Vice Admiral J.W. Jefford CB CBE (August 14, 1947 - January 31, 1953)

Afghan gov is same thing. Both fake corrupt democracies created by foreign govs which is why you are a hypocrite like Imran Khan. Either both are legit or they are not.

[khushal]

Let's call a spade a spade ....DAESH in Afghanistan are Just EX Taliban members that wanted to be more "hardcore" than the Taliban or felt the Taliban "softened" up too much over the years. That said we can pretty much include DAESH and Taliban into the same pool. Their inter-squabbles is more a reflection of how egotistic they are and willing to come to blows over trivial differences rather than being qualitatively different.

Which basically strengthens my argument that this is similar to the 80s where squabbles among the majihadeen were rampant. But Akbar is right in some sense. There are groups that switch sides back and forth from gov to insurgent just like they did in the 80s.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Which basically strengthens my argument that this is similar to the 80s where squabbles among the majihadeen were rampant. But Akbar is right in some sense. There are groups that switch sides back and forth from gov to insurgent just like they did in the 80s.

It's almost as if the Taliban have been posturing all along :p